Instigator / Pro

Best.Korea

1233

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403

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39.45%

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Topic

#5606

Its a good idea to teach children that they can do whatever they want

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Better arguments

Better sources

Better legibility

Better conduct

After 1 vote and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

Owen_T

Parameters

Publication date: 07.22.2024 06:42PM
Last updated date: 08.22.2024 10:53PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 5
Time for argument: One week
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: One month
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

Owen_T

1465

rating

debates

57.35%

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Round 1

Best.Korea

07.22.2024 08:13PM

Pro

That way, you can stop abuse and pedophilia, because if children dont want it, they will stand up for themselves and say that they dont want to be touched.

But if you teach children that they must obey adults, you are basically helping pedophiles have their way.

Owen_T

07.22.2024 10:33PM

Con

So we shouldn't tell them not to steal and resort to violence?

All this would do is create a future generation of adults who think it is okay to over power children and who will resort to force.

Round 2

Best.Korea

07.22.2024 11:03PM

Pro

Children can do whatever they want. They should be told that so they know. Anyone can do whatever he wants. Thats the only way world can work.

Owen_T

07.23.2024 12:36AM

Con

They can do what they want, but then they'll go to Juvie. It's best for them to tell them not to hurt people, not only best for the person they are hurting.

Round 3

Best.Korea

07.23.2024 01:14AM

Pro

Morality is subjective, so of course they can do whatever they want. Dont lie to kids. Be honest and tell them that they can do whatever they want.

Owen_T

07.23.2024 06:45PM

Con

Telling kids that they can murder people if they want is honest, but not okay.

Round 4

Best.Korea

07.23.2024 07:25PM

Pro

Some children dont live until 18, so obviously all children should be allowed to do whatever they want.

Owen_T

07.23.2024 07:37PM

Con

Under NO circumstances is it okay to tell a child that it's okay to commit murder. Granted, this is an extreme, but it, along with every other crime, is included in "what ever they want"

Just because there is a chance they will die early, does not mean we can raise a generation of criminals.

Round 5

Best.Korea

07.23.2024 07:41PM

Pro

Its a fact that children can do whatever they want, so why lie to them and say that they cant do something which they can do?

Adult people have already polluted Earth to the point of no return where we are all going to be eventually poisoned to death by trash and chemicals which we mass produce.

Our children should be told that they have same freedom as us to do whatever they want. We hurt others in many ways, so its unreasonable to forbid our children that which we do.

Plus, this world is doomed anyway, as there is no way to save it. Might as well let our children do whatever they want, which includes to get trans surgeries if they want.

Do you agree that children should be told that they can do whatever they want?

Owen_T

07.23.2024 10:53PM

Con

#10

Its a fact that children can do whatever they want, so why lie to them and say that they cant do something which they can do?

Just because they can does not make it in any way morally justifiable.

Our children should be told that they have same freedom as us to do whatever they want. We hurt others in many ways, so its unreasonable to forbid our children that which we do.

People doing bad things does not justify you doing bad things.

Plus, this world is doomed anyway, as there is no way to save it.

You have not provided any evidence for this. Humans have constantly been able to adapt and evolve to continue to survive.

Do you agree that children should be told that they can do whatever they want?

None of the reasons you provided give any moral justification for doing bad things. Creating a future where crime is ramped and people do what ever the heck the feel like is not a good thing, and I'm sure we can all agree.

Best.Korea

07.23.2024 08:14AM

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@SocraticGregarian96

Morality is subjective. You are wrong again. You could have chosen truth.

SocraticGregarian96

07.23.2024 05:26AM

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@Best.Korea

"Morality is subjective, so you can do anything you want.”
That is stupid, here’s why:

First of all, morality is objective. It is the seven noahide laws.

Second of all, you think that it’s OK for anyone to do whatever they want, this is flawed because A) morality is objective, B) it states that you can’t do whatever you want, and C) Do you think Hitler’s actions were acceptable, or Stalin’s, or Mao’s, or as the left will say, Putin’s? Are their actions all acceptable just because they thought it was?

Best.Korea

07.23.2024 12:06AM

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@SocraticGregarian96

No.

Morality is subjective, so you can do anything you want.

SocraticGregarian96

07.22.2024 11:38PM

I think that there have to be rules:
You can do whatever you want, as long as you are following the basic rules. (Don’t steal, Don’t kill, etc.)
That is how a constitutional republic, the likes of what AMERICA actually is, works.

itsnotago

07.26.2024 10:44AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro starts his/her case by saying that just because children CAN do something, they should do it, to which con responds that if they do whatever they want and the people around them don't give them basic rules, they will all end up criminals so pro's argument doesn't really stand ( i believe that if pro made an exception for crimes it would have been a better argument). Pro then adds that adults have made many mistakes like polluting the Earth to the point where the world is doomed and it doesn't matter what the children do. While Con kinda drops this, i believe that argument can be countered.
Now let me explain the voting choices:
1) Argumentation: It's a tie because pro gave some arguments that didn't really stand but con's arguments were basically just rebuttals to pro's statements
2)No one used sources so its again a tie
3) I gave legibility to con because the statements were much more clear on his/her behalf and some of the examples Con gave to his/her arguments were kinda confusing, for example the argument about abuse and pedophilia (no child wants to be abused and the abuse won't stop if the child says "i don't want to be abused")
4) Conduct is a tie since both pro and con weren't rude or disrespectful