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Topic
#5476
Being Pro choice is being pro abortion/homosexuality.
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Winner & statistics
After not so many votes...
It's a tie!
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- Number of rounds
- 4
- Time for argument
- Two days
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Disclaimer : Regardless of the setup for voting win or lose, The aim of this interaction, Is for those that view it, Learn and or take away anything that will amount to any constructive value ultimately. So that counts as anything that'll cause one to reconsider an idea, Understand a subject better, Help build a greater wealth of knowledge getting closer to truth. When either of us has accomplished that with any individual here, That's who the victor of the debate becomes.
Questions on the topic, send a message.
I threw that last part in there at the last minute just to stir up the conventional thinkers.
Two sides of the same coin no doubt.
Round 1
I'm going to lay this out straightforward .
I trust the opposing side won't get frustrated or bent out of shape over this subject being that it's more than a conversation and folks appear to just throw up their hands rage quiting, storming off.
I would request of the opposing side to be open minded and approach this topic in a serious fashion.
Being pro choice is being pro abortion/homosexuality.
Is that true?
Yes. I'll explain why and the opposing side will concede in the form of agreement or argue how it is not true.
The "pro choice" position relates to those that support the choice of aborting a baby. To be fair, they also champion keeping the life of one .
It doesn't matter which scenario because they are behind the choice as a basis. So right there , there is support in abortion of pregnancy.
You are pro choice. Pro choice of what?
Whatever the mother/appropriate party decides.
So they decide abortion. You are for it. Decisions are tied to outcomes or results.
I understand people technically attempt to split hairs with this I guess because supporting abortion sounds too ugly. But it is what it is.
You can try to be indirect about it. But when the direct question comes out, it puts you in the direct zone of your position.
To say I support a healthy lifestyle but I don't support the things to make one is paradoxical. If I don't support the results from one, it's paradoxical.
These are all connected. What would be the basis of supporting a choice or anything if not for the result or what it amounts to.
Everything comes down to its end at the end of it .
Which brings me to what the end of homosexuality is according to its nature and use.
When you come down to it, it makes use of the same as pregnancy abortion.
It makes voids, negates and nullifies reproductive functionality. Both abortion and homosexuality does this to the use of sexual reproductive capacities.
The contrast is with one aspect, there is a postponed effect towards the sexual reproductive process.
I believe one person has stated that one is a medical procedure and the other is a sexual preference which is choice .
So right there, you have the choice with a sexual activity and a choice of aborting .
This is how one that is against abortion but in favor of homosexuality is in conflict. They both amount to the same thing touching the sexual reproductive capacities.
This really shouldn't be hard to understand. If the opposing side needs it more straightforward than this, ask questions.
Being pro choice means respecting person's wishes.
Being pro abortion means trying everything to make sure abortion happens.
Obviously, the difference in goals is this:
To achieve "abortion", a woman could get pregnant and have an abortion.
To achieve "pro choice", one must simply respect the wishes of other people. One doesnt need to have an abortion to be pro choice.
Round 2
"To achieve "pro choice", one must simply respect the wishes of other people. One doesnt need to have an abortion to be pro choice."
One to respect what wish?
One to be pro choice of what?
Saying I'm the one, I'm respecting what wishes for the sake of what, why?
Saying I'm the one that is pro or supports choice, what choice to what end, why?
If I respect choice, and person chooses not to have an abortion, how am I pro abortion?
Round 3
"If I respect choice, and person chooses not to have an abortion, how am I pro abortion?"
I like how you danced around what I asked.
So how are you pro abortion when a person chooses not to have an abortion?
That's a nice dilemma you threw in there .
The truth is , to answer directly, if the person would of chose abortion, you wouldn't be against that because it still falls under what you so call respect, a choice. So you're not against abortion as you're not against the choosing of it. There's no separation. You get one with the other.
Keywords: You're for the choosing of abortion.
You can't dissect this up. This whole entire statement comes together to define your position.
You're for the choosing (pro choice)of it (abortion).
Another way to look at this.
Simply because you support the choice of OTHERS that DO choose to abort pregnancy.
YOU'RE STILL PRO ABORTION.
You didn't answer my questions. Do you forfeit ?
Being pro choice would only mean being pro abortion if everyone chose to have an abortion. But majority of people choose not to have an abortion. So you could say that being pro choice is being pro anti-abortion by same logic. How can person be both pro abortion and pro anti abortion? But according to my opponent, thats whats going on.
Round 4
Forfeited
Opponent forfeited.
Ran out of time, I had my argument ready in a draft too.