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Topic
#5468

Simulation Proof of God

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Faraz0007
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5
Time for argument
Two weeks
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1264
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Description

Ayah is Miracle or Sign of Resurrection in Quran. Jesus raising the dead is called Ayah
in Quran. Moses turning staff into serpent is called Ayah (in Quran). Every Quran verse is called Ayah because it is the
Sign of Resurrection (Greatest Sign Possible) of Poetry.
Now, According to Quran Everything (you see) is the Sign of Resurrection…. “And of His Signs is that you see the earth
stilled, but when he sends down rain, it quivers and grows. Indeed, He who has given it life is the Giver of Life to the
dead. Indeed, He is on Everything Powerful.”- (Quran 41:39)…. “And in the alternation of night and day and what Allah
sends down from the sky of provision and gives life thereby to the earth after its lifelessness and directing of the winds
are signs for a people who use reason”- (Quran 45:5)…. “And it is Allah who sends the wind, and they stir the clouds, and
We drive them to the dead land and give life thereby to the earth after its lifelessness. Thus is the Resurrection. ”-
(Quran 35:9)…. “And of His signs is that heavens and earth stand by His command. Then when he calls you with a call
from the earth, immediately you will come forth” - (Quran 30:25).
Now, We all know that video games looks stunningly real to our reality and they are getting more and more real as much
as they are getting more and more “sophisticatedly engineered”. And they represent very closely to our world, thus, our
world must be a much better “Simulation” than them. And thus much more “sophisticatedly engineered” by
programmer or as we call Allah! And that’s why Allah calls (as I mentioned above) that everything we see (sun, moon,
our body, sky, earth) is an Ayah (or sign) of him or more precisely Ayah of Resurrection because of it’s nature of being in
a “most sophisticatedly engineered” Simulation created not by engineers but by Allah.

Round 1
Pro
#1
Well, my argument remains the same. We all know that video games looks stunningly real to our reality and they are getting more and more real
as much as they are getting more and more “sophisticatedly engineered”. And they represent very closely to
our world, thus, our world must be a much better “Simulation” than them. And thus much more “sophisticatedly
engineered” by programmer or as we call Allah! And that’s why Allah calls (as I mentioned above) that
everything we see (sun, moon, our body, sky, earth) is an Ayah (or sign) of him or more precisely Ayah of 
Resurrection because of it’s nature of being in a “most sophisticatedly engineered” Simulation created not by engineers but by Allah.

Con
#2
I agree, but what is your definition of God? 

What is your definition of Allah?
Round 2
Pro
#3
Allah is the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. The God of all Abrahamic religions.
Con
#4
You said "our world must be a much better “Simulation”".

While I can agree that our world can be designed by someone, what proof do you have that it was designed by God which you mention?

Couldnt it have been designed by some advanced being which is not God, but just very powerful?
Round 3
Pro
#5
Well, I have written a whole book on this topic, proving that "God" can be no one but "Abrahamic God, Allah of Quran" by various arguments for History and reasoning from Bible and Quran other sources and it quite successful in proving that. 
Con
#6
Oh, okay.

Can you give us the proof that the God you believe in created this world?

I am gonna need a bit more than quotes from Quran saying "yeah, I created this world".

Couldnt Quran be written by human who simply liked to lie?
Round 4
Pro
#7
You can leave last chapter if you don't know enough maths. This is the link to whole book - (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nko3oDbTCtxfQlhH7mfyF75EJKhOm9Ms/view?usp=drivesdk)
Con
#8
Well, I guess I must agree that regarding the poetic miracle, and justice and greatest revolution, it is trully above most humans, if not above all other humans, since rarely is anyone a poet and a great revolutionary and a fighter for justice.

I dont know anything about math, so I dont understand the last chapter.

But in our society, due to competition, someone has to be best.

Isnt the other explanation that Islam and Christianity were simply led by best of humans, so had best success, and that God actually doesnt exist nor has to exist for someone to be best in society?
Round 5
Pro
#9
If you observe closely the first chapter is solely based on one agenda that is to prove Muhammad is a genuine Messenger of God through any historical standard and if you once establish that then God (or the "simulator" of the "simulation) must be guiding him. And the second chapter is also a supernatural feat in the sense that such justice was never before or after achieved on such massive is a sign of divine (because otherwise humans could have done it in other places in history). These 2 things proves that he was a Messenger of God and not ordinary man. Because he did miraculous things all the time as proved by western and eastern historiography. 
Con
#10
Oh okay.