Before I begin, I first must define the words:
Transgenderism: the act of genetically modifying one's body in some sort of way with the intention of becoming the gender that they were not biologically assigned at birth.
Valid: something that is acceptable, logical, and shows itself to be unobjectionable.
What is a woman? People sometimes ask this question, and each of them expect to get a certain answer from the person. What they might be expecting is for someone to come up with a falsifiable explanation for what a woman is. For example, a person (in the context of humans specifically) capable of becoming pregnant and giving birth. Their next rebuttal will of course be to point out that some women have medical conditions like PCOS, where they are not biologically capable of becoming pregnant, though they will sometimes be able to through the help of pharmaceuticals. Or, if you were to ask a little kid, they're probably say something along the lines of a girly person, who has long hair, wears dresses, puts on makeup, and likes the color pink. Of course, those are merely the social aspects of gender, as a man can just as easily have long hair, a man can wear a dress, a man can put on makeup, and a man can like the color pink, but that still makes him a man. However weird that guy may look depending on how you approach the fundamental meanings of those words, he can still do that and still be a man. But what some people will conveniently leave out is what a woman really, fundamentally is: a person with XX chromosomes. And as for men, a man fundamentally is: a person with XY chromosomes. It's that simple. Chromosomes are simply the initial sign of what gender your kid is going to be. When a human is nothing more than a fetus physically, the chromosomes act as the genetic coding for how the body is going to build this baby into either a boy, or a girl. The presence of a Y chromosome, along with it being paired up with an X chromosome, means that it will be a male. But the absence of the Y chromosome, and therefore just the X chromosome, means that it will be a female. It is important to word it like this, because some people think that XXY, XYY, or other weird combinations, are the genetic coding for other genders. However, these still will create either a man, or a woman. XXY creates a man, because there is a Y chromosome coupled with an X chromosome, even though there are two X chromosomes in this case, and XYY will also create a man for the same reason. So, if there were a combination like XXX, that would be a woman, as there is no Y chromosome to be coupled with the X chromosomes. It is these chromosomes that define exactly what a woman is at the most fundamental level.
Sometimes, people believe that they are a different gender than what they were "assigned at birth." This is fundamentally incorrect, because you literally are a specific gender. What someone might be referring to is their appeal to things that are socially considered to be apart of a different gender. Girly things are things like pretty dresses, pretty makeup, the color pink, sparkly things, and long hair. And manly things are things like trucks, sports, the color blue, and grills. And yes that was obviously a generalization, but my point here is that there are aspects of the world that society has arbitrarily assigned to specific genders. Back in the day, pink used to be a rather manly color, but now it's generally considered girly. And so, usually, men do not want to wear dresses. I myself would not be caught dead wearing a pink sparkly dress with makeup. But if there is a man that actually does want to wear a pink sparkly dress with makeup, but has been repeatedly told their whole lives what is feminine and what is masculine, they might start believing that the reason they like pink sparkly dresses is because they are neurologically a girl, and are somehow in the wrong body.
Your gender has nothing to do with what kinds of things you like. The only reason that a boy might feel uncomfortable or embarrassed to wear a pink sparkly dress and makeup is because social conventions have been drilled into their heads since birth, and there are some things that are socially considered feminine and masculine. This isn't really a bad thing, however, it is important to know that just because someone might want to dress as what happens to be socially considered to be how the other gender dresses doesn't mean you must be the other gender entirely. It's like believing that wanting to wear big clothes means that you are in the wrong body because you are not the right height that you have been assigned at birth. Believe it or not, height dysphoria, just like gender dysphoria, is a real thing.
The concept of gender dysphoria is, again, simply due to social aspects of gender. Some people report thinking and feeling as though they are a different gender, as if their brain is fundamentally hardwired like the brain of the other gender. However, again, this has nothing to do with your actual gender, and it has everything to do with how social protocol has created the way some genders might think, and the way kids are raised because of that can pass on the tradition. Which, again, is not a bad thing, it's just that it fundamentally doesn't actually have anything to do with your physical gender, they are just generally arbitrary things that have been defined over the course centuries, and quite possibly since the dawn of time.
Now, I do need to clarify that these social protocols aren't technically completely arbitrary. Men and women have their own specific molecule that their body produces, called testosterone and estrogen respectively. And these can change people's behaviors. These can create certain social aspects of gender based on that. But it remains that thinking in a certain way does not mean you are a new gender. Just look at your anatomy for proof.
And, while we're on the topic of height dysphoria, height dysphoria appears to have the exact same characteristics as gender dysphoria, with the one difference being that there are no arbitrary social protocols that have been developed for centuries that dictate how a person dresses and behaves based on their height. And yet, people can still feel as though they are the wrong height that they were assigned at birth. And yet, people don't validate those kinds of people for this. Why? Because you cannot change what you objectively are. As I explained in the beginning, your gender is fundamentally coded into your genetics, which give you a specific type of reproductive organ, a main production of either testosterone or estrogen, and so on. So, your gender is also what you objectively are. Your height, like your gender, is what you physically and objectively are as a person.
This brings us on to the people who feel the need to change their entire physical body in order to become the other gender. They will get implants, take different hormones, and have all kinds of other surgeries just to permanently change their body. If you decide you don't want to do this anymore, too bad. You have basically destroyed your body now, and if you want to go back, your body is never going to be the same again, depending on how far along you are. It's like getting a tattoo, except it's the entire build and chemical work of your body, which is not good for you.
And that brings me on to what is a woman. Because some people answer with, "a person who has [anatomical structure]." But then they might start arguing that a person can get surgeries to change, or straight up remove, their [anatomical structure]. This is why I mentioned the chromosomes, not only because it can fundamentally define a gender, but that is something that, no matter how hard you try, you cannot change. No amount of surgeries, hormone replacements, and puberty blockers can change your chromosomes, and those can define a gender.
In conclusion: a person is fundamentally either a man or a woman biologically, and this is something objective about you. Gender is not a social construct, it is a fundamental biological mechanism. There are social constructs that people invented to go along with genders, but those have nothing to do with real gender. You are objectively a specific gender, and trying to change it will not only not change your gender, because you will still always have the same chromosomes, but does permanent changes to your body, and are very bad for your body. Therefore, the conclusion is that transgenderism is not valid.
Well, I do have the motive.
I'll just assume it was you.
Thanks to anonymous reports, you will never know.
I wonder if Best.Korea reported Savant's vote xD
Exactly that. For the most part, we have vote handling standardized.
Of course more details may be added to the report, and my decision can be appealed to other moderators.
I get the impression somebody reported Savant's vote, so you responded by saying why the vote is valid.
Okay? What just happened here?
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You are so strange.
I hate winning. I dont hate winning. I am a Christian today, so Jesus commanded me to debate you. The way I see it, I dont need to put effort into arguments because certain number of my opponents will forfeit anyway so I win. I lose only when I face people who dont forfeit. Still, may Jesus bless you. You seem like a good person. Normally, I hate Jesus, but today I dont. I won lots of debates with Jesus's help.
I see your priorities are more towards tactics, and winning, rather than the actual logic and reason behind the debate. I'd prefer to have an actual discussion than to just win because my opponent wasn't above waiting for me to forfeit so he would automatically win because of their arguments, but I don't back down.
"This is gonna be quite possibly the quickest debate I've ever participated in."
Aw, thanks, you are welcome.
"Did you really think that just by using sources, any argument you make is irreverent and you'll just automatically win?"
Yes, that is the goal. Thats why I lose. I was hoping you will just surrender so I win.
Did you read Kokomi, the Art of War?
Welp I've been spelling cite wrong this whole time.
Did you really think that just by using sources, any argument you make is irreverent and you'll just automatically win? It doesn't work like that.
This is gonna be quite possibly the quickest debate I've ever participated in.
I am a hypocrite. Its one of my strategies, although not the only strategy. I prefer to call it shapeshifter strategy. I can tell you the details if you are interested.
So a hypocrite.
Its called contradicting yourself.
Considering what you just said, the fact that you're CON is strange. Have fun arguing for a side you are against I guess.
standard is unrated.
What do you mean unrated?
No thanks then, especially not wasting the effort unrated.
I'll define those two words in my first debate argument.
Make it rated, define the words 'valid' and 'transgenderism' in your description please.
Trans people are bad.
They should ask God to make them normal.
The person who joined my previous "Transgenderism is Not Valid" debate just said "nope, you're wrong pal" and then a series of forfeits. Not even the debate was valid. So, I'm remaking this debate so that I can actually have a discussion about this. If the same guy joins again, I will just make another debate until somebody else joins.