Instigator / Pro
0
1500
rating
3
debates
33.33%
won
Topic
#4338

The Holy Spirit is Valid Evidence For Scripture

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
0
4

After 4 votes and with 4 points ahead, the winner is...

Slainte
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
4
1511
rating
25
debates
68.0%
won
Description

Intro

It is often stated that only empirical means of scientific investigation may be utilized to demonstrate the validity of a claim. I am simply here to argue in the affirmative that truth may be demonstrated through evidence outside of empirical means, and in the specific case of Holy Scripture, the Holy Spirit of God can provide this corroborated evidence sufficient to make a valid claim of truth.

Round 1

Opening arguments (no rebuttals)

Round 2

Rebuttals (no new arguments)

Round 3

Final Defense of Arguments (no new rebuttals)

Round 1
Pro
#1
Forfeited
Con
#2
Pro has said the first round is for arguments, and second is for rebuttals.  Pro gave no arguments.    

From the comments pro stated "the special revelation given by the Holy Spirit is a valid form of evidence to corroborate the veracity of Holy Scripture."

I argue that Pro's comments amount to circular reasoning. Circular reasoning occurs when the conclusion of an argument is assumed or included within the premises. In this case, the argument seems to be:  The Holy Spirit provides (a/the) special revelation, this special revelation supports the veracity of Holy Scripture; therefore, Holy Scripture is true because of the special revelation from the Holy Spirit. The problem with this argument is that it assumes the existence of the Holy Spirit, which is itself a fundamental aspect of the belief system that the Holy Scripture represents. So by Pro using an element of the belief system (the Holy Spirit) to verify the veracity of the belief system itself (Holy Scripture), the argument becomes circular, and is not provable or defendable.

Pro can only rebut my statements here, and attempt to demonstrate that the statement is not a begging of the question, or circular.



Round 2
Pro
#3
Forfeited
Con
#4
Per the rules setforth,   the second round is for rebuttals, and no new arguments.

There is nothing to rebut.
Round 3
Pro
#5
Forfeited
Con
#6
In conclusion I presented my case.  I would like the voters to give an opinion on my argument.