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Topic
#4115

I will most likely live to be 200

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Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
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After 1 vote and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...

PREZ-HILTON
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One month
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
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1533
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Description

I think I have a better than coinflip chance of living to be 200 years old. I am 40 years old, a white male. I don't smoke. I am 5 ft 6 in and weigh approximately 190 pounds. My father died of heart disease at the age of about 55, but he also smoked 2 packs a day and was an alcoholic. My mom is 57 and has diabetes but is doing well other than the fact she smokes a pack a day and drinks a lot. My paternal grandmother died just after 70 years old, paternal grandfather at about 65 years of age both from heart related reasons. My maternal grandmother made it until about 65 but was a chronic smoker and has a lot of relatives who made it to 100, my maternal grandfather died from smoking and was about 70 he also drank heavily.
Rules
1. No kritics
2. obey the spirit of what is intended in the resolution if you misunderstood the resolution just ask in comments so we can be on the same page. You don't have to rush to accept the debate if you don't like the terms, I am more than willing to debate 2 people at a time on the same topic.
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4. If you feel like we are not of equal debate skill and that you have a tremendous advantage over me, than handicap yourself by not using the letter F during the course of the debate.

Round 1
Con
#1
DART Sidious believes he is likely to live to be 200 years old, but the math seems to indicate he would live significantly longer than that. Give or take several centuries.

To understand this, we must look at the Star Wars Canon. Yoda's Midichlorian count is set as 17,700 and Sidious is estimated to be 20,000. 
In the movies, Yoda lived to be 900 years old. Given Sidious's Midichlorian count, it is estimated that his lifespan should therefore be higher. However, correlation is not causation. And as we all know, The Dark Side drains your health and vitality, thereby decreasing the years of your life expectancy.

However, even with this in mind, the evidence still suggests that DART Sidious/Wylted (Pro) to live for 500 years, give or take.

But even should he die for whatever reason, Wylted has found a way to bypass this.
Look here at the evidence.: 
"When Palpatine died, his consciousness was transferred to a clone on the planet Exegol, where he had been previously studying immortality. However, the body was too weak to hold his consciousness. So they built more clones that could be a strong vessel for him."

Thus there is nothing to stop him from living perpetually. 

Pro
#2
Please forgive me I pretty much basically just use voice to text when debating sir Lancelot I will do more work to make it less of wall of text and more coherent this time. 

The unlimited lifespan

Well I won't deny that damn near everything concept is true. I have no reason to deny the relevance of Star wars to this debate nor will I attempt to as it does seem extremely relevant to the very least proving I can make it to 200 years. 

Con has said he doesn't believe I'll live to 200, he believes I'll live to be several thousand years old if not millions. What con fails to see is that once I hit 200 years old that's when it all ends.

Suicide

That's right I plan to kill myself once I hit 200 years old. You see now I'm 40 years old that gives me 160 years remaining. And you know what happens 160 years from now. What happens 160 years from now it's 2163. You might ask why am I going to off myself in the year 2163.

Dark secret


A lot of people don't realize what happened on February 1st 1963. That's right, 2-1-63. Or 2163. You're about to find out the significance that date and why I'm waiting till the year 2163 to finish the damn job. In short the date is symbolic but on that date there's something very special I want to release the world something that can't happen now. The world is not ready for.

On that day a very important person died. Fleetwood Lindley passed away. What was so significant about him he was the last living person to have actually seen Abraham Lincoln's face. https://www.onthisday.com/date/1963/february/1



You might be thinking how is this guy who is only 75 in 1963 the last person to ever actually see Abraham Lincoln's face that was still alive. I'll tell you Abraham Lincoln had no normal face this guy saw what was behind the meat mask Abraham Lincoln was wearing. 

Right now you're thinking is it God is it a demon is it some sort of alien was it a dog was it three kids in a trench coat wearing Abraham Lincoln face what could this guy have possibly been murdered for in 1963 that he wasn't supposed to let out. 

Well on his deathbed this guy told my dad exactly what he saw and what he saw if released right now would forever change the world and the world is not ready to know.

My dad did not want me to know what was in that message he said it would literally destroy the world to know what the hell this guy saw behind Abraham Lincoln's meet mask.

Shortly after I found out about this from my dad in the year 2014 I begged him to tell me I begged him. However with my dad did was he ran away cuz he knew that he was too weak that if I kept questioning them he would break and if I found out this information could kill me if I open my big mouth it could destroy the world as we know it everything would change.

So what my father did was he drove to a little city called beacon. That's right if you don't know the name of the city you should because in the year 2014 my dad started to get cancer. He was dying and he could not keep this secret any longer and yet he did not want to let me know the secret he didn't trust anyone with the secret. So what did my dad do...


Time capsule

Well lucky for me lucky for the world I guess my dad didn't have to make sure this secret never got out again he could put it in a safe place because the city of beacon decided to build a time capsule in the year 2014 and this time castle would not be opened until the year 2163. https://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/news/local/2014/09/19/beacon-messages-in-bottle/15888041/

Each person participating in this time capsule get the right a little message on a piece of paper and put it in the time capsule. My dad wrote down exactly what Fleetwood Lindley told him before he was so brutally murdered. Of course Fleetwood Star wars his death certificate doesn't say he was murdered but the government wouldn't want you to know anyway would they. 

Conclusion

In conclusion. I'm a very very curious person by nature. I have to be there not only to read that capsule and then be burdened with the same knowledge of my father but to take and pass on this message to somebody strong enough somebody willing enough to know the secret he passed on and in a position to not only judge weather to let the world know what is on that message but also be okay not letting the world know if they are not ready. 

After I figure out what's on this message and trust me I will have this strong person ready ready to read the message when I'm there the moment I read it I will blow my f****** head off and that is the year I turn 200 years old. Mic drop
Round 2
Con
#3
Have you ever heard the Tragedy of DART Lindley, The Wise? 

You might be thinking how is this guy who is only 75 in 1963 the last person to ever actually see Abraham Lincoln's face that was still alive. I'll tell you Abraham Lincoln had no normal face this guy saw what was behind the meat mask Abraham Lincoln was wearing. 

Right now you're thinking is it God is it a demon is it some sort of alien was it a dog was it three kids in a trench coat wearing Abraham Lincoln face what could this guy have possibly been murdered for in 1963 that he wasn't supposed to let out. 

Well on his deathbed this guy told my dad exactly what he saw and what he saw if released right now would forever change the world and the world is not ready to know.

My dad did not want me to know what was in that message he said it would literally destroy the world to know what the hell this guy saw behind Abraham Lincoln's meet mask.
And his apprentice, Wylted (disguised as the ex-president.) slain him in his sleep. This is his villain origin story. Only Force-wielders like Lindley could see through Wylted’s mask. 

There’s two ways Wylted plans to go with this monologue. 

He is seeking redemption and when he kills himself at 200, he will live on as a Force Ghost. 
Or he kills himself and transports his life essence into a clone like I predicted. 
Pro
#4
No I won't I will just kill myself at 200 and if I am a ghost then I will call the ghost busters or the Pope and have them kill my ghost.
Round 3
Con
#5
Wylted’s other debate suggests he will live to be 200+, indicating the possibility of living longer. He’s lying!
Pro
#6
Correct I am lying in that debate not this one. 
Round 4
Con
#7
Forfeited
Pro
#8
I will take that as a concession. Thanks for playing 
Round 5
Con
#9
In conclusion, I have proven that Wylted will harness the power of his Midichlorians and cloning tech to live on perpetually.
Pro
#10
Ummm, bullshit you did