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It is not good to make food out of aborted babies

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seldiora
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pepsis-bizarro-world-boycotted-over-embryonic-cells-linked-to-lo-cal-soda/

cbs admits they make soda from aborted baby

Burden of proof.
it is not good to make food out of aborted babies

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@SirAnonymous

I did not say the mark of the beast was the vaccine's

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@crossed

Again, that article is one guy saying that people "could" be barred from going to work or school. Nowhere does it provide any evidence that "will" happen. There is an enormous difference between "could" and "will."

"Mark of the beast won't be mandatory. You just won't be able to buy or sell"
There is a grand total of 0 Scriptural support for the idea that this vaccine or any other vaccine will be the mark of the beast. That is nothing but baseless speculation.

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@crossed

The article you linked is about the Australian PM walking back his earlier comments that it would be mandatory. It doesn't relate to the US.
"You are giving 70 plus shots to infants so they can not refuse it."
No, but the parents can refuse the shots if they want. Whether or not children are vaccinated is ultimately the parents' decision, at least in the US.
"They bluntly tell you they censor anti vaxxers on Facebook and YouTube under the pretext that they are dangerous ."
Facebook and YouTube are doing that of their own accord. That isn't the federal government.
"and the goverment throw's people in jail if they do not treat a disease they do not have."
When has that happened?
"They are dumbing down children at birth with vaccine's."
Nope. But even if vaccines do make people dumber, being dumb is preferable to dying of completely preventable diseases.
"Censoring us."
Tech companies are, but they aren't the government.
"So they can keep people believing in there garbage."
What garbage?
"Plus keeping you controlled with stigmas."
How so?
"Plus throwing you in jail if you refuse to dumb yourself down and be a good steeple."
When has that happened?

"The coronavirus vaccine could be forced on Americans, says Stanford Law School professor Hank Greel"

Not mandatory.You just won't be allowed to get a job or go to school if you do not get vaccinated.
https://www.tmz.com/2020/08/13/coronavirus-vaccine-forced-stanford-law-professor-hank-greely/

Mark of the beast won't be mandatory. You just won't be able to buy or sell

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-19/morrison-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-mandatory/12572992

Not mandatory.We will just fine you a bunch until you do what we want

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10014414/parents-fines-refusing-vaccinate-kids/

Not mandatory.You give it to baby's so they can not say no. Thats mandatory.You are forcing it upon people who can not say no

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/19/vaccine-should-be-as-mandatory-as-possible-australian-pm-says.html

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@SirAnonymous

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/19/vaccine-should-be-as-mandatory-as-possible-australian-pm-says.html

There is a lot wrong with this picture.You are giving 70 plus shots to infants so they can not refuse it.They bluntly tell you they censor anti vaxxers on Facebook and YouTube under the pretext that they are dangerous .and the goverment throw's people in jail if they do not treat a disease they do not have.

They are dumbing down children at birth with vaccine's.Censoring us.So they can keep people believing in there garbage.Plus keeping you controlled with stigmas.Plus throwing you in jail if you refuse to dumb yourself down and be a good steeple.

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@crossed

Firstly, that article is one guy saying that the government theoretically could force people to take it. It says nothing about whether they actually will. Currently, the government has no plans to do so. Secondly, according to other legal scholars, the federal government does not have that power. To quote from the article I linked:

"What’s more, while it may offer incentives, the federal government cannot mandate a vaccine. Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, has said that mandatory coronavirus vaccinations would be “unenforceable and not appropriate,” a stance that legal scholars agree with. Lawrence O. Gostin, director of the O'Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law at Georgetown University, told The Dispatch Fact Check that claims that the federal government is going to force the coronavirus vaccine on the public are “without foundation.”

“Firstly, the federal government has no power to mandate any vaccine for any reason,” said Gostin. “States do have the power to mandate vaccines but there is only one state that has mandated a vaccine for adults. That state is Massachusetts that recently adopted a mandate for influenza vaccines.”

Gostin said that he isn’t aware of any state considering a COVID vaccine mandate and that the CDC “does not have plans to recommend that states create a mandate.” He says that while states could mandate a vaccine, it’s unlikely they will do so because of the strong likelihood of backlash."

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@SirAnonymous

https://www.foxnews.com/media/alan-dershowitz-forced-coronavirus-vaccinations-are-constitutional

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@crossed

Actually, the government has no plans to force people to take the vaccine. https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/is-the-government-going-to-force

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@crossed

"Trump is going to force that vaccine.Do you think i like that or support that?"

If it doesn't work, don't, however I think it works.

Trump is going to have the military go out and distribute the vaccine.Do you think there is anyway i would take that.

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@oromagi

I have not liked any of the stuff trump has done in 2020

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@oromagi

Trump is going to force that vaccine.Do you think i like that or support that?

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@crossed

I have not looked into it yet but I am hearing tonight that the wonderdrug Trump's is currently promoting is similarly made from cloned stem cells of a baby aborted in 1973.

Since that advocacy makes Trump at least as complicit as Pepsi (Pepsi is motivated by business, Trump by self-interest) does that information diminish your appraisal of Trump or improve your tolerance of stem-cell derivatives?

I'm going to pull an Imabench on this one

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@Barney

Aha, that was a fun read. It probably put you on some sort of watch list - but comedy gold, nonetheless. :)

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@JRob

It was a troll (AKA comedy) debate, to which I used some clips from South Park to prove value:
https://www.debateart.com/debates/866-fetuses-as-a-replacement-for-the-usd

This sounds like a modest proposal.

This is truism.

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@Barney

W h a t ?

I think my hall of fame debate on abortion included their value as a shrimp substitute...

But they taste so gooooooooooooooooooood

Thessalonians 2:11
because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

And people say Adrenochrome is insane

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@crossed

I haven't dug extensively into this, but no, I don't really care about protecting cloned kidney cells under the law.

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@Trent0405

And you do not see a problem with that????

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@crossed

They aren't really making food out of aborted babies, there using cloned kidney cells from a fetus aborted in the 70s.

https://fullfact.org/online/HEK-293-cells/

I am not that good with biology beyond my grade level, but this article put the issue in laymens terms for me.

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@MisterChris

You did not say it was untrue. in last debate. You just said there no conspiracy behind it.

I am a simple man.I am just waiting for a liberal infected with the quote down below to argue against.

Thessalonians 2:11
because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

I am a theistic christian. I do not know which of the thousands of Christianity is true.

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@crossed

we've been over this before, go look at our previous debate

Why would CBS report on it then.Why is there a ton of article's online that say there no aborted babies then talk about how they only make additive's out babies

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@MisterChris

Why would CBS report on it then.Why is there a ton of article's online that say there no aborted babies then talk about how they only make additive's out of it

I mean, I would agree? I just don't think that's actually happening.

Gross

For example snope say's there is no aborted babies in food.But if you read further they admit they make aborted babies out of food.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/senomyx-flavor-additive/

Please read entire article.Do not fall for the headline.

there is a lot of article's online that say there is no aborted babies in food.But then goes on to say they only make there additives out of aborted babies.Do not be deceived by these article's.With huge headlines saying there no aborted babies.Read further they admit it down below.