Instigator / Pro
21
1417
rating
158
debates
32.59%
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Topic
#2145
The perfect pear is the best stand alone episode of mlp:fim
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 4 votes and with 2 points ahead, the winner is...
seldiora
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 3
- Time for argument
- Two days
- Max argument characters
- 5,000
- Voting period
- Two weeks
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
Contender / Con
19
1436
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22
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38.64%
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Description
Best: highest quality
Mlp:fim: my little pony: friendship is magic
The Perfect Pear: s7 e13
Stand alone: not part of a two parter, three parter so on and so forth
Burden of proof is shared.
Round 1
Forfeited
My opponent has not been active.
I think he has left the site
Round 2
oh, sorry. Didn't notice this had been accepted.
Anyhow, my argument is short. Perfect Pear is the best episode of my little pony, because of its simple yet excellent story. Everyone knows Romeo and Juliet, a classic Shakespeare play that basically infers about biases and rooted assumptions. Even the Bible tells us "everyone wants to be loved" (https://www.proverbs31.org/read/devotions/full-post/2017/10/10/everyone-wants-to-be-loved). Therefore, it can be said that the episode is most people can sympathize with. The message is also fantastic as it tells us to look past what others assume is true and listen to your own heart. Through the episode, it's clear Grandfather pear regret his actions he took against his daughter, and encourages people to rethink their biases.
The ending of Perfect Pear is also incredibly powerful. As seen through many clips (https://youtu.be/XpXYWfy5LSU?t=1363, https://youtu.be/eAAQa24YdIk?t=2312), countless fans have cried over the reunion and the final scene. Unless my opponent shows an episode which has powerful impact as this one, then I'd say Perfect Pear is the best. Finally, Perfect Pear has the highest rating out of any MLP episode ever (https://www.ratingraph.com/tv-shows/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-ratings-38803/). It's obvious that fans like it. Even if "best" is subjective, the quality which people rated this clearly shows that it's the best episode.
Thanks selidora,
Anyhow, my argument is short. Perfect Pear is the best episode of my little pony, because of its simple yet excellent story. Everyone knows Romeo and Juliet, a classic Shakespeare play that basically infers about biases and rooted assumptions. Even the Bible tells us "everyone wants to be loved" (https://www.proverbs31.org/read/devotions/full-post/2017/10/10/everyone-wants-to-be-loved). Therefore, it can be said that the episode is most people can sympathize with. The message is also fantastic as it tells us to look past what others assume is true and listen to your own heart. Through the episode, it's clear Grandfather pear regret his actions he took against his daughter, and encourages people to rethink their biases.
My opponent argues that the Perfect Pear is the best episode because of it's excellent story. However, he is not the authoritative figure on that. All I must do is prove that in all cases, The Perfect Pear is the best.
Being "the best", is impossible. In order to be "the best", you must be "the best" at every aspect.
The Perfect Pear is not the "best" and being the "worst".
So, if it is not the best at being bad, that means the Perfect Pear is not the very best MLP:FIM episode.
As I said before, the word "best" is paradoxical, and there is no way to prove it.
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Lets take a look at the definition of best:
"the highest quality".
That means, The Perfect Pear must be the best at every quality. Like I said before, this is impossible.
The Perfect Pear is NOT the best at being the worst. You can provide multiple cases in which the Perfect Pear isn't the best-
- It is not the best at supporting Donald Trump
- It is not the best at supporting Racism
- It is not the best at supporting Suicide.
Therefore, it can't possibly be the best. This is because the best is completely paradoxical.
I rest my case.
Round 3
Forfeited
My opponent has full forfeited. I declare victory.
NOTICE: only 2 hours remain for voting.
Conduct only votes are warranted without analysis of other points due to >=50% forfeiture.
It's not quite a full forfeiture... That said, I'm going to edit my vote to tie arguments. I expected many conduct only votes for the >50% forfeiture.
wtf ima lose
:((((
Shouldn't I automatically win this due to the FF?
NOTICE: Less than a day remains for voting.
Sorry for the late reply, it actually had to be discussed in moderation chat.
It's pretty close to an FF, but technically not quite. I'm literally tossing this type of thing into the next referendum, to settle it once and for all.
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4574-upcoming-meep-voting-policy
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>Reported Vote: Trent0405 // Mod action: Removed
>Points Awarded: 0:7; All points to Con.
>Reason for Decision: See Comments Tab.
>Reason for Mod Action:
People forfeit by degrees. Any unexcused forfeited rounds merits a conduct loss. However, for less than a 50% forfeiture, arguments must still be voted on or justified as a tie.
A full-forfeit debate is defined as a debate that has no argument presented by one side following the opening round, resulting in all subsequent rounds being forfeited. When this is the case, these debates are considered full-forfeit debates and are not moderated unless a voter votes for the forfeiting side.
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This falls right on the line between borderline and needing to be deleted, and even with internal discussion us moderators are unsure. With a week left to vote, I am opting for deleting it to give you maximum opportunity to revote if you so choose. Given the content of the debate, it could be a single sentence to justify arguments (if voting arguments, otherwise they need not be mentioned).
Also I'm tossing a related question into the next referendum, to avoid this issue in future.
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4574-upcoming-meep-voting-policy
Trent0405
7 days ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✗ ✔ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
Full Forfeit.
I'll have you know when you combine Lincoln and Washington, you get the ultimate best at being a Korean Businessman!
"How dare you"?
Is it false? No one that has walked on the soil of Earth has been proven omnipotent. Even JESUS wasn't as omnipotent as God. Lincoln and Washington is no God and being good at politics is enough for them to be the GOAT of the field.
Does this count as an FF
How dare you insinuate that Lincoln and Washington aren't the best at being a Korean Businessman! 😉
Thanks
"2/3 of a falafel"
I love your vote!
He only needs to prove that a certain episode is the Best relatively, and it doesn't need to for all aspects.
Lincoln and Washington are considered best presidents, but they aren't the best at being a Korean Businessman, nor are they the best at ultimately suppressing freedom. That still doesn't make them NOT the best presidents.
wow
welp he made an argument
No, he instigated
welp, he accepted
I mean, i still have one argument ready, in case he comes back
I mean, as much as I crave position and rating, if I am only accepting things taking advantage for forfeitures, then I will be called out as a coward.
haha free elo boost go brr
https://i.redd.it/04d5nlitt2y31.png
That describes me right now.
nah i just like dem free wins
Judging from that PRO is off for 6 days, are you taking advantage of FF, or do you really understand children's cartoons?
What do you mean by "best"?
I am most likely NOT accepting this debate because I am not into children's cartoons, but how to define it?