Instigator / Pro

PaulVerliane

1337

rating

debates

9.62%

won

Topic

#1629

tis better to loved and lost than never to have loved at all

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Better arguments

Better sources

Better legibility

Better conduct

After 6 votes and with 13 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman

Tags

Philosophy

Parameters

Publication date: 11.10.2019 01:40AM
Last updated date: 11.27.2019 09:12PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 5
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: One week
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

RationalMadman

1702

rating

574

debates

67.86%

won

Description

it is bette to participate in life and lose then to just sit passively by and do nothing

Round 1

PaulVerliane

11.10.2019 03:21AM

Pro

Think of all the old people , in their hospital beds on opiates and in a diaper as their memories fade thinking" i had a comfortable life i never took chances i never lost big i provided for my family , but what if if i had gone for it what if i had taken that chance... and lost?

screw that just do it the worst regret is never to know ,as far as we know we only live once, its bette to go for gusto , fire all your guns, let lose, and lose big, than stand on the side lines silently afraid of failure

i embrace my failures it reminds me of what the IRA said to Margret Thatcher after a botch bombing attempt

The IRA claimed responsibility the next day, and said that it would try again. Its statement read:

Mrs. Thatcher will now realise that Britain cannot occupy our country and torture our prisoners and shoot our people in their own streets and get away with it. Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always. Give Ireland peace and there will be no more war.[12]

You gotta love the Irish god know i do
slàinte

RationalMadman

11.12.2019 03:21AM

Con

Forfeited

Round 2

PaulVerliane

11.12.2019 04:04AM

Pro

May I ever so politely point out my conduct vs the conduct of my opponent who forfeited , tis better to experience life and fail than to never even try, how fun is it to sit on the side line thinking"i could do that?" when you can just do it??? right?

RationalMadman

11.13.2019 08:27PM

Con

To love and lose gives you bad things in return. To never have loved ever doesn't even stop you learning from the mistakes of others around you and studying research on relationships and psychology etc, it simply lets you not have said drawbacks.

Round 3

PaulVerliane

11.15.2019 08:27PM

Pro

Forfeited

RationalMadman

11.15.2019 09:46PM

Con

Don't dare tell a thing to me, I win.

Round 4

PaulVerliane

11.17.2019 09:46PM

Pro

Forfeited

RationalMadman

11.18.2019 07:16PM

Con

full forfeit no doubt

Round 5

PaulVerliane

11.20.2019 07:16PM

Pro

Forfeited

RationalMadman

11.20.2019 09:12PM

Con

#10

slam dunk

PaulVerliane

11.10.2019 03:22AM

god love the irish

PaulVerliane

11.10.2019 03:13AM

i'd rather lose every bar fight i get in than stay sober and alone

SirAnonymous

11.10.2019 02:53AM

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@PaulVerliane

We don't seem to agree on much, but we do agree on this.

oromagi

11.25.2019 08:37PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

34fit < 14fit

Vader

11.21.2019 05:45PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

RM forefeited less so RM gets the conduct vote

PressF4Respect

11.21.2019 05:06PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Con forfeited less

Barney

11.20.2019 10:40PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Credit to pro for making sense, and not copy/pasting (a rarity for him), however forfeiting 3 out of 5 rounds still left the counter case (weak as it was) unchallenged. So yes, apparently never loving gives all the benefits of trial relationships and none of the drawbacks.

Username

11.20.2019 09:28PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

I find it funny that Pro complains about Con's forfeiture and proceeds to forfeit the rest of the debate.

Trent0405

11.20.2019 09:27PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Conduct because of more forfeitures.

Pro wound up dropping all of Con's case because of his forfeitures. Arguments to Con as a result.