Instigator / Pro

billbatard

1294

rating

debates

18.0%

won

Topic

#1465

I demand the right to vote, i feel like a segregated negro here!!!

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Better arguments

Better sources

Better legibility

Better conduct

After 3 votes and with 10 points ahead, the winner is...

NotClub

Tags

Philosophy

Parameters

Publication date: 09.28.2019 04:35AM
Last updated date: 10.06.2019 11:02PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 3
Time for argument: One day
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: One week
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

NotClub

1488

rating

debates

37.5%

won

Description

youve mede me a second class citizen and i wont stand for that let me vote dammit@!

Round 1

billbatard

09.28.2019 06:26PM

Pro

I am a man! i got rights dammit!

NotClub

09.29.2019 12:05PM

Con

They aren't rights, they're privileges. You lost the privileges yourself. You have no right to blame the moderators.

My opponent failed to prove that he feels like a "segregated n*gro."

Round 2

billbatard

09.29.2019 08:04PM

Pro

my feelings are self evident they dont have to be proven, we hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created eqqual and endowed with certain inalienable rights so to say we dont hav rights is unamerican

NotClub

09.29.2019 08:48PM

Con

to say we dont hav rights is unamerican

(S&G ERROR)

You do have rights on the site, you can comment, pm, and create debates. But you don't have the privilege to vote yet, because you're basically trolling most of your debates. And why are you so sure this is American? Just because you are logging in from America, doesn't mean that the site is American.

my feelings are self evident they dont have to be proven,

(ANOTHER S&G ERROR)

In some cases, people lie about how they feel to avoid being an idiot or something. You have to prove that you're not lying. Feelings are often lied about, and you cannot prove in any way that you feel like a "segregated negro."

https://thoughtcatalog.com/jessica-dentith/2016/01/you-owe-it-to-yourself-to-stop-lying-about-your-feelings/

VOTERS:

My opponent has made many S&G errors, which almost make the arguments unreadable. His main point is some fluff about how the site is bad because America said so, and completely ignored the fact THAT HE DOES HAVE RIGHTS. In short, he's just another troll trying to grasp at people's attention. Vote Con!

Note to Bill: This isn't DDO, don't post stupid things about the site in the debates section, post it in the forums.

Round 3

billbatard

09.29.2019 10:04PM

Pro

i'm going to hold my breath and poop in my pants and then light your cat on fire if you dont let me vote! dont make me kiss your grandma with tongue

NotClub

09.29.2019 11:02PM

Con

i'm going to hold my breath and poop in my pants and then light your cat on fire if you dont let me vote! dont make me kiss your grandma with tongue

Conduct and S&G here. Your only argument is an insult to the moderation.

VOTE CON

DroneYoinker

10.06.2019 08:07PM

What the hell happened here

OoDart

09.29.2019 10:18PM

Easy win for con...

billbatard

09.29.2019 10:02PM

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@PressF4Respect

okay i did now what? how do i get my votes?

PressF4Respect

09.28.2019 10:51PM

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@billbatard

This is what the CoC says:
"In order for users to be eligible to vote on debates, user's current accounts must reflect that they have read the site's COC AND either completed at least 2 non-troll debates without any forfeits or posted 100 forum posts."

billbatard

09.28.2019 06:27PM

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@PressF4Respect

honest?

PressF4Respect

09.28.2019 05:55AM

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@billbatard

Just make 100 forum posts.

Easy.

oromagi

09.28.2019 05:22AM

Of the 15 Open challenges- 11 are instigated by billbatard
Of the 47 debates in progress- 13 are being debated by billbatard
Of the 53 debates in voting- 17 are argued by billbatard

That is an awful lot of hoo haw

NealDoesDebate

10.06.2019 09:21PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

just look at pros points

Barney

10.06.2019 08:05PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

I don't even want to address this horrid of a resolution, but I will say significantly neither advanced their BoP toward it.

S&G did come up as an argument, which pro dropped, all but conceding that his S&G was too horrible for his ideas to be understood. However, I think I get the gist of pro's points (as strange as they were).

Conduct: Threatening to murder a cat.

Trent0405

09.29.2019 11:19PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Not one side really offered an in depth argument, no extensive dialogue took place. As a result, arguments must be tied.

S and G

Errors from Pro.

"my feelings are self evident they dont have to be proven, we hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created eqqual and endowed with certain inalienable rights so to say we dont hav rights is unamerican."

"i'm going to hold my breath and poop in my pants and then light your cat on fire if you dont let me vote! dont make me kiss your grandma with tongue."

So most of the time I can presume what Pro is referring to, like equal being spelt eqqual, same thing with have bein spelt hav. But, this kills the flow of the debate, I could work through Cons text effortlessly, but Pro's points continuously forced me to reread over a missed comma, or stop/stutter for a second to establish what he really meant by hav or eqqual.

Conduct

i'm going to hold my breath and poop in my pants and then light your cat on fire if you dont let me vote! dont make me kiss your grandma with tongue.

This is either a violent threat to Con or the moderation team, either way it is unacceptable to threaten somebodies cat, even if it was simply a joke it isn't an excuse to potentially make a user fear for their loved and appreciated pet.