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#1419
All those coincidences are just God
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After 2 votes and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...
crossed
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2 weeks do not take if you want short debate
Round 1
Thanks for taking. Sorry for the wait
Silver if you wear it. Helps regulate body heat.
Lets say my body is at 120 degrees i am hot. this is an unsafe level.But a safe level is around 90 degrees. So i put on a silver ring and it precisely dials my body heat to around 90 degrees.
Lets say the opposite is true. my body heat is around 65 degrees. safe body heat is around 90 degrees. i put on a silver or gold ring and it precisely dials my Body heat to around 90 degrees
Is it just a coincidence that silver or gold precisely dial your body heat to the exact levels you need
Silver also helps with internal heat regulation and circulation. Many have reported improvements in energy levels and balance in moods after wearing silver, as its natural properties may offset outside electrical disturbances, improve circulation and overall body temperature balance, and help maintain cleanliness and immunity.
Many plants in the earth regulate hormone.
lets say my body is not producing enough Melatonin the sleepy chemicals. But let's say i am only producing 45 mg when i need at least 100. I eat a magic herb and it boost my melotonin levels to around 100. It precisely dialed the amount of hormone's my body needs to produce.
let's say the opposite is true. lets say my body is producing to much melotonin at around 500 mg. safe amounts is around 100. So i take a herb and it decreases my melotonin levels to around 100. The herb precisely dialed my body to around 100. the exact amount i needed
Is it just a coincidence that these plants precisely dial your hormone levels to exactly amount that you need. I thought only God could precisely dial stuff
Blood pressure
Lets say my blood pressure is to high. i eat a plant and the plant precisely dials my blood pressure to safe levels.
Is it not a coincidence that this herb precisely dialed my blood pressure to the exact amount i need it.
I do not believe that it is just a coincidence that these regulate stuff like hormones and give you the exact amount you need. God must have done it.
Forfeited
Round 2
they are not just god, but god itself will have to then be a coincidence if they are.
Round 3
they are not just god, but god itself will have to then be a coincidence if they are.
"humans and the millions of creatures on the planet just came out of nothing what a coincidence."
your talking about the counter argument to my argument which is.
"An all powerful being just randomly came out of nothing what a coincidence."
I do not think any of these are what happened so both of them examples are not a coincidence to me because it did not happen.I do not think all the millions of animals and humans just popped into existence by nothing without a cause like god.Or do i believe that An almighty god came into existence by nothing.Both are equally absurd.Luckily i do not believe either one happened.The bible says god has existed forever.This makes no sense because how could something exist forever.But it solves the how did an all powerful being popped into existence by thin air.The answer is it did not.He existed forever.But it replaces it with another problem how can something exist forever.Which i do not know.I do not have all the information needed to know how this is done.
Evolutionist believe that dogs cats lions dragons dinosaurs bird humans magically popped into existence by nothing.I believe the same thing.Except i take the magical part very literally.Magic is the only way all of the creature of life dogs cats dragons dinosaurs humans can just appear out of nowhere.If magic does not happen none of the stuff stated before would be possible.
Disclaimer
I know big bang people have changed there believe to nothing to space collapsing on itself.But it is still the same thing.You would be arguing technicality.It same thing.I know that you might say would not god have to magically come into existence.Which is no the bible says he existed forever.Which works but makes no sense how that is possible.But if we assume he created life it would make sense that it does not makes sense.
If your logic is that God made everything that appears to be a coincidence, happen by planning and that we are to assume that's true just because it can be... It follows that God itself must be assumed to be a coincidental thing with a God behind it.
This infinite regression annihilates your theory at the core.
coincidencenounUK/kəʊˈɪn.sɪ.dəns/US/koʊˈɪn.sɪ.dəns/coincidence noun (SAME TIME)B2 [ C ]an occasion when two or more similar things happen at the same time, especially in a way that is unlikely and surprising:
An infinite regress is a series of appropriately related elements with a first member but no last member, where each element leads to or generates the next in some sense.[1] An infinite regress argument is an argument that makes appeal to an infinite regress. Usually such arguments take the form of objections to a theory, with the fact that the theory implies an infinite regress being taken to be objectionable.
god does not throw dice with the universe - albert einstien
what does that even mean?
I think I finally figured out how to counter it. See posts 34 through 36...
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2644/god-precisly-set-asteroids?page=2&post_number=39
that's concision- pretty much sums up the crossed philosophy in a single sentence