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#1311
pharmacuticals are designed to kill you
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Round 1
evil definitions
the word pharmakeai means
poisoning
sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it
metaph. the deceptions and seductions of idolatry
the word pharmakon means
from pharmakon (a drug)
Definition
a poisoner, sorcerer, magician
NASB Translation
pharmacy is derived off the word pharmakeai. This is because pharmacy's want to harm you.
etomology online dictionary says pharmacy came from pharmakeai.
in
the collinsdictionary.com under the word pharmaceutical. in the origins
of section. it talks about how the word comes from pharmakon
or if you look at yourdictionary.COM you get under origins
you get
Origin of pharmaceutical
Late
Latin pharmaceuticus from Classical Greek pharmakeutikos from
pharmakeuein, to practice witchcraft, use medicine from pharmakon, a
poison, medicine
pharmakeai used to be in the bible
King James Version
And
the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the
voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all
in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by
thy pharmakeai were all nations deceived.
pharmaceutical industry is a drug cartel
1.pharmaceuticals are the 4th leading cause of death . this is because pharmaceuticals it is meant to harm you
.2
over
100 thousand people die each year because they take prescription
medication. this is because prescription medications are meant to harm
you.
.3
big
pharma gives millions of dollars to politicians because they know that
there drugs are dangerous and they have to bribe people to make there
drugs legal. There drugs are dangerous because there are meant to harm
you.
4
.big
pharma corruption started the opioid epidemic. The opioid epidemic
destroyed the lives of soccer moms who says no to illegal drugs but
believe legal drugs are safer. this happened because drugs are meant to
harm you.
5
.we
kill millions of babies inside abortion clinics. they do not even call
them babies but fetus. this is the work of pharmakeai sorcerers.
6
.we
play the I'm not crazy game with our children we play this game because
pharmaceuticals are meant to harm you. while they claim to be helping
us they treat them like experiment animals.
7
and prescription drugs are more dangerous than illegal drugs. this is because prescription drugs are meant to harm you
8
prescription medication is the number 1 reason for overdose beating out illegal drugs. this is because it is meant to hurt you
9
.we put aborted babies in our vaccines. we do this because vaccines are meant to harm you.
but
we are flooded by fake news like this one done by ABC. were they say
the aborted babies are not harmful and even the future catholic pope
approves of it. disgusting abc even claims it does not interfere with
the disgusting catholic bible.
10
and can we safely ignore those people who claim to perform magical rituals in abortion clinics
11
.the world health association symbol is a snake on a stick
this is because it is meant to harm you and it is snake oil.
12
one
of the evidence for the fema cam conspiracy theory is one of the
medical code in Obama care sanctions death by guillotines. This is
because it is meant to harm you.
13
prescription
medication usually has a long list of side effects for example Prozac
causes yellow eyes and skin and thought of suicide and 120 plus other
things. These side effect that have nothing to do with what the drug is
treating. and have no way of coming naturally unless they were designed
to do such
14
some
mass shooting were caused because the shooter was taking prescription
drugs and suffered from the side effect suicide thought or actions.
over 1500 hundred cases
15
they
put prescription drugs in our tap water. These pharmaceuticals have
absurd side effects. They put prescription drugs in our water to hurt
us. The reason you need a prescription to get these drugs is because the
drugs are dangerous. so why is it in our tap water. available to
everyone. Unless it is meant to harm.
here is just one of them look at the side effects
for the sake of space lets talk about only one of the side effects of these drugs
Atenolol
side effects of atenolol.
Blurred vision
cold hands or feet
confusion
difficult or labored breathing
dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up from a lying or sitting position suddenly
shortness of breath
sweating
tightness in chest
unusual tiredness or weakness
wheezing
Anxiety
chest pain or discomfort
chills
cold sweats
cough
dizziness or lightheadedness
fainting
fast heartbeat
leg pain
noisy breathing
slow or irregular heartbeat
sudden shortness of breath or troubled breathing
Bloody urine
decreased frequency or amount of urine
increased blood pressure
increased thirst
loss of appetite
lower back or side pain
nausea
swelling of face, fingers, or lower legs
vomiting
weight gain
Black, tarry stools
bleeding gums
blood in urine or stools
blurred or loss of vision
bone or joint pain
disturbed color perception
double vision
feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
feeling that others can hear your thoughts
feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there
fever
halos around lights
night blindness
overbright appearance of lights
paleness or cold feeling in fingertips and toes
pinpoint red or purple spots on skin
severe mood or mental changes
skin irritation or rash, including rash that looks like psoriasis
skin rash, hives, or itching
sore throat
swollen or painful glands
tingling or pain in fingers or toes when exposed to cold
tunnel vision
unusual behavior
unusual bleeding or bruising
Anxiety
coma
cool, pale skin
depression
dilated neck veins
extreme fatigue
headache
increased hunger
irregular breathing
nervousness
nightmares
seizures
shakiness
slurred speech
unusual drowsiness, dullness, tiredness, weakness, or feeling of sluggishness
what if someone suffer from side effect from the drug Atenolol being put in the water
lets talk about the worst offenders here.
what if someone suffers from
"sudden shortness of breath or troubled breathing"because they added atenolol to the water.
our water can cause us to stop breathing because someone added a pharmaceutical drug to it let that sink in.
what if someone who drinks water suffers from the side effects
feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
feeling that others can hear your thoughts
feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there
because they are adding pharmaceutical drugs to our water
Definitions:
My opponent has not provided any key definitions in the debate description, so I will do so myself. The following definitions all come from Merriam-Webster:
- Pharmaceutical – a medicinal drug.
- Designed – created, executed, or constructed according to plan.
- Kill – to deprive of life.
In future debates, I ask my opponent to define key terms in the debate description, since not doing so often causes confusion and is very unhelpful. Thank you.
Pharmakeai & Pharmakon:
The words pharmakeai and pharmakon are not English words, they are Greek words. For this reason, it is unfair to conclude that pharmaceuticals are witchcraft just because similar-sounding words with that meaning exist in a different language. For example, in German, the English word gift actually means poison! But it would be illogical to conclude that all gifts are poisonous just because the Germans mean poison when they say “gift”, right?
Furthermore, my opponent is being intellectually dishonest by ignoring the definitions provided by his own sources. If we look at them, we can see that their first definition for pharmakeia is actually “the use or the administering of drugs”! My opponent literally removed the definition he did not like and then used all the following ones which proved his point. Nitpicking definitions is never a good idea, so I suggest that my opponent does not do things like that in future debates.
Rebuttals:
"pharmaceuticals are the 4th leading cause of death . this is because pharmaceuticals it is meant to harm you"
The source that my opponent provided, Collective Evolution, is a conspiracy pseudoscience website with very low factual reporting. MediaBiasFactCheck, one of the most respectable factchecking websites on the Internet, rates Collective Evolution as "a quackery level pseudoscience website based on promoting miracle cures, anti-vaxx propaganda and 9/11 conspiracies"[1]. If you were to actually read CE's article, you would see that they provide no statistics whatsoever to support the claim that pharmaceuticals are the 4th leading cause of death in the world. Their entire "evidence" consists of a made-up sob story about some woman named Kerstin who has issues with her bladder.
"over 100 thousand people die each year because they take prescription medication. this is because prescription medications are meant to harm you."
Again, this claim comes from another very questionable source. MediaBiasFactCheck rates NewsPunch as a "click bait news website that promotes extreme right wing conspiracy theories and pseudoscience misinformation" [2]. They provide no link for their claim that over 100 thousand people die annually from prescription medication, so according to Hitchens's razor [3], this claim can be dismissed.
"big pharma gives millions of dollars to politicians because they know that there drugs are dangerous and they have to bribe people to make there drugs legal. There drugs are dangerous because there are meant to harm you."
The article my opponent provides makes no mention about whether pharmaceuticals are harmful or not, it only points out that pharmaceutical companies donate a lot of money to politicians. It is irrational to conclude that pharmaceutical companies are deliberately selling poisonous drugs just because they have an interest in politics. According to my opponent's logic, all companies that donate money to political campaigns must be doing something illegal... or maybe companies just want politicians to give them benefits and tax cuts?
"big pharma corruption started the opioid epidemic. The opioid epidemic destroyed the lives of soccer moms who says no to illegal drugs but believe legal drugs are safer. this happened because drugs are meant to harm you."
The article my opponent provided is very poorly written, but from what I understand, the author is angry at Big Pharma because they prescribed people opioid painkillers. While this was a factor in the opioid epidemic, it does not mean that pharmaceuticals deliberately started the epidemic, and in no way does it mean that drugs are meant to harm you. Concluding that drugs are meant to harm you because doctors prescribe people painkillers is a Non Sequitur logical fallacy.
"we kill millions of babies inside abortion clinics. they do not even call them babies but fetus. this is the work of pharmakeai sorcerers."
This is irrelevant to the claim that pharmaceuticals are meant to kill you. We are talking about medicine, not abortions.
"we play the I'm not crazy game with our children we play this game because pharmaceuticals are meant to harm you. while they claim to be helping us they treat them like experiment animals."
My opponent should explain what the "I'm not crazy game" even is and how he can conclude from that game that pharmaceutical companies are treating us like rab lats.
"and prescription drugs are more dangerous than illegal drugs. this is because prescription drugs are meant to harm you"
The article my opponent provides does not exist. That's because the claim that prescription drugs are more dangerous than illegal drugs is simply not true, and no self-respecting website like Psychology Today would ever make such a claim.
"prescription medication is the number 1 reason for overdose beating out illegal drugs. this is because it is meant to hurt you"
An overdose happens when you take too much of some substance, it is not the fault of the substance itself. In a large enough quantity, everything is poisonous, even water, but I'm sure my opponent would agree that water is not designed to kill us. Blaming the drugs themselves instead of the people who aciddentally took too much of them is absurd.
"we put aborted babies in our vaccines. we do this because vaccines are meant to harm you."
This is a Non Sequitur logical fallacy. The fact that there are fragments of aborted fetuses in some vaccines does not mean that vaccines are meant to harm you. In order for this argument to make logical sense, my opponent would first have to prove that using aborted fetuses in vaccines is harmful.
"and can we safely ignore those people who claim to perform magical rituals in abortion clinics"
The source my opponent provides, StillnessInTheStorm, is a "news and opinion blog with over-the-top tin foil hat conspiracy theories"[4]. Their article provides no evidence and is most likely made up. According to Hitchens's razor, this article can be dismissed.
"the world health association symbol is a snake on a stick"
The WHO's symbol has nothing to do with snake oil. The stick represents the rod of Asclepius, the ancient Greek god of life and medicine. The snake represents rejuvination, since snakes shed their skin and "rejuvinate" that way [5].
"one of the evidence for the fema cam conspiracy theory is one of the medical code in Obama care sanctions death by guillotines. This is because it is meant to harm you."
Before Its News is a conspiracy and fake news website written by random citizens without any credentials. Furthermore, the FEMA conspiracy is completely irrelevant to our current discussion.
"prescription medication usually has a long list of side effects for example Prozac causes yellow eyes and skin and thought of suicide and 120 plus other things. These side effect that have nothing to do with what the drug is treating. and have no way of coming naturally unless they were designed to do such"
Prescription medicine has side effects because the body often uses the same chemical to regulate more than one process, so medicine might re-adjust one balance and unintentionally disrupt the other [6]. This is simply how medication works, it's wrong to conclude that doctors want to murder us because of the side effects of taking pharmaceuticals.
"some mass shooting were caused because the shooter was taking prescription drugs and suffered from the side effect suicide thought or actions."
The source my opponent provided, CCHR, is sponsored and run by the Church of Scientology [7]. It's very ironic that my opponent is using sources from an organization that he and other Christians absolutely despise. Regardless of the irony, CCHR is a pseudoscientific website that should not be taken seriously, and the article that my opponent provided had no sources to confirm their claims.
"they put prescription drugs in our tap water. These pharmaceuticals have absurd side effects. They put prescription drugs in our water to hurt us. The reason you need a prescription to get these drugs is because the drugs are dangerous. so why is it in our tap water. available to everyone. Unless it is meant to harm."
These prescription drugs are in tap water because some people flush unneeded medication down toilets, not because the evil government is poisoning what we drink. These traces are very tiny and are virtually harmless [8]. Furthermore, has PRO never thought that the owners and employees of pharmaceuticals drink that water as well? Why would they want to poison something which they themselves consume?
Conclusion:
PRO's entire case consists of questionable sources from pseudoscientific fake news websites that should not be taken seriously. Unfortunately, I have ran out of space for this round, so I will present my other arguments in the second round. Over to PRO.
Sources:
Round 2
Con conceded.Atheist left debate art to finish school. I will do a rebuttal in round 3 Not feeling it right now
Forfeited
Round 3
No they are active putting pharmaceuticals in the water. Just like how they spray bipolar medication over large groups of people.
Block rebuttal
Again, this claim comes from another very questionable source. MediaBiasFactCheck rates NewsPunch as a "click bait news website that promotes extreme right wing conspiracy theories and pseudoscience misinformation" [2]. They provide no link for their claim that over 100 thousand people die annually from prescription medication, so according to Hitchens's razor [3], this claim can be dismissed
Just because conspiracy theory's and right wingers have different opinions does not make them unreliable
The article my opponent provides makes no mention about whether pharmaceuticals are harmful or not
That was not the point. pharmaceutical bribe politicians because they know it is dangerous
he article my opponent provided is very poorly written, but from what I understand, the author is angry at Big Pharma because they prescribed people opioid painkillers. While this was a factor in the opioid epidemic, it does not mean that pharmaceuticals deliberately started the epidemic, and in no way does it mean that drugs are meant to harm you. Concluding that drugs are meant to harm you because doctors prescribe people painkillers is a Non Sequitur logical fallacy
opioids are killing millions. Because they are dangerous. Because pharmacuticals are based off a word that means poison means there doing it on purpose.
This is irrelevant to the claim that pharmaceuticals are meant to kill you. We are talking about medicine, not abortions.
We were talking about pharmaceuticals
My opponent should explain what the "I'm not crazy game" even is and how he can conclude from that game that pharmaceutical companies are treating us like rab lats.
Go to the mentally ill section in a school.They are talked to like dogs.They can think clearly. They are mean and treat them like dogs
The article my opponent provides does not exist. That's because the claim that prescription drugs are more dangerous than illegal drugs is simply not true, and no self-respecting website like Psychology Today would ever make such a claim.
The did make the claim. i deleted one of the things by accident.Here is another one
An overdose happens when you take too much of some substance, it is not the fault of the substance itself. In a large enough quantity, everything is poisonous, even water, but I'm sure my opponent would agree that water is not designed to kill us. Blaming the drugs themselves instead of the people who aciddentally took too much of them is absurd.
It is doctors prescribing to much sorcery. Not patients
This is a Non Sequitur logical fallacy. The fact that there are fragments of aborted fetuses in some vaccines does not mean that vaccines are meant to harm you. In order for this argument to make logical sense, my opponent would first have to prove that using aborted fetuses in vaccines is harmful.
Con is defending aborted babies in vaccines. Aborted babies in vaccines is wrong. They do it to hurt us. Kuru disease is why it is harmful
The source my opponent provides, StillnessInTheStorm, is a "news and opinion blog with over-the-top tin foil hat conspiracy theories"[4]. Their article provides no evidence and is most likely made up. According to Hitchens's razor, this article can be dismissed.
your debating conspiracy theory so of course i use conspiracy sites.
The WHO's symbol has nothing to do with snake oil. The stick represents the rod of Asclepius, the ancient Greek god of life and medicine. The snake represents rejuvination, since snakes shed their skin and "rejuvinate" that way
hermes was evil
Before Its News is a conspiracy and fake news website written by random citizens without any credentials. Furthermore, the FEMA conspiracy is completely irrelevant to our current discussion.
Just because it is conspiracy does not make it unreliable.All articles are written by random people. It is we as people who decides who is expert in certain fields
Prescription medicine has side effects because the body often uses the same chemical to regulate more than one process, so medicine might re-adjust one balance and unintentionally disrupt the other [6]. This is simply how medication works, it's wrong to conclude that doctors want to murder us because of the side effects of taking pharmaceuticals.
To many side effects not all could occur naturally. They have been programmed in.
The source my opponent provided, CCHR, is sponsored and run by the Church of Scientology [7]. It's very ironic that my opponent is using sources from an organization that he and other Christians absolutely despise.
So you agree with my claim that "some mass shooting were caused because the shooter was taking
prescription drugs and suffered from the side effect suicide thought or
actions.". I do not disagree with someone ideas just because i disagree on a certain subject. I do not 100 percent support trump. 10 percent of the stuff he does i disagree with. If someone says god is not real i disagree with him but if he says apples are red. Do i have to disagree with them.
Forfeited
life expectancy has double in the past 100 years due to modern medicine you dolt could you be more stupid? please try i need a good laugh
then why are people living longer?
Its a new thing apparently
https://www.cnn.com/2014/05/01/world/from-toilet-to-tap-water/index.html
i don't want to put my rebuttal here yet. so i will say no more
Tap water is processed toilet water. Most drug particles in toilet water are removed, but a few pass the processing and get into tap water. Or did you never know that before?
:"These prescription drugs are in tap water because some people flush unneeded medication down toilets,"
toilet water is tap water. I feel bad for you guys. So many factors that determines ones intelligence
Sorry about the bad grammar. I wrote this before i started to crack down on that kind of stuff. I did not think when i copied and pasted