You talk ill of Silva but Silva pretty much put Fedor in a hospital and won by TKO.
What is most hilarious to me, is that you proudly talk ill of someone who defeated Fedor. If he lost so genuinely and was eroded to the point where the ref had to call TKO, then if his opponent is weak relatively in terms of skill and strength what does that tell you about the guy who lost to him?!
Stipe Miocic is a fighter who isn't as quantity-heavy as Fedor as such, he goes for well timed, high quality fights to maintain titles and earn big so it's actually worth the damage to his body and stress to his mind etc. Fedor has so many 'career' stepping stone fights where it was blatant he'd win from the start. His strategy is fine, it's wise but then he began to give into the drug of fame and if you want to play with the big boys you better have self-discipline.
Stipe Miocic is the embodiment of discipline. He doesn't talk shit on camera like Mcgregor, he stays humble and knows his worth. He goes in the ring adapts his strategy to his opponent (more so than ANY MMA fighter I have ever seen) and comes out either the victor or a very worthy loser in the 3 times he's lost. You want to talk greatest of all time? What about the guy who is ranked #1 Heavyweight and defended his title three times and is pound-for-pound considered to be the 11th most efficient of all MMA fighters by the UFC officials?
Miocic is no fucking joke. When Miocic agrees to a fight you know he's putting in the work and I don't just mean diet. The guy clearly studies his opponents in detail, adapts his body and mind to become a counter-style to them and unless they adapt too, he wipes the floor with them. He is the single calmest fighter I have ever seen in the pro scene, let alone heavyweight scene where things are more brutal and intense. He has a demeanour of 'I am in control in this fight, if over nothing else at least over myself'. You cannot manipulate him into a state of anger or anxiety and why? It is because he completely understands precisely how far to take a move so as to waste 0 effort. He never goes too far such as to be drastically dragged away from the other guy by the ref, he willingly lets the ref tug him and that's his goddamn power and foresight.
Early in his career (2011) you could say one of his toughest opponents (because grapplers are the style that kicking goes weakest into as they love to grab your leg and Stipe is overall a natural kicker) was Bobby Brents.
^ notice that unlike Mcgregor or most MMA fighters in general he not only is pleasant himself, from the start of the fight to the end even when his opponent gets a fly in his eye he never is too mean or plays too dirty. There is a clear mutual respect between them from how they look at each other before to how after they touch gloves they aren't in terror of the other hitting them instantly in a dirty-play manner. That is Stipe's aura, not Bobby's. Stipe has a way of making opponents tamer and happier when he's against them but this becomes their weakness.
Also, take note that when Stipe wins by judge decision it's always unanimous and he actually is strategic in how he garners more points than his opponent every fight. Fedor has had a split decision when he beat Maldonado and honestly it seems like he relies on his brutal hits and furious style to garner his wins in general. I'm not saying he's bad, but what is greater; the guy who plays every single move so that you either have to risk more against him or lose or the guy who comes out flying and hopes you slip up enough to make it worthwhile so he can beat you into submission? Fedor is strongest against opponents who don't hold up well in bursty-conflict. Stipe is good against all opponents in general because he knows how to work around their style. That's why he didn't kick too much against that grappler.
Look at Fedor in this loss:
Can you even tell what is going on? He just flies in tries a combo and oopsie Dan Henderson's is better... they clearly are both like furious dogs going in for an almighty bite hoping one breaks the other's leg or chest first (biting was metaphorical). This is very common for Fedor to do, even when he wins one sits there going 'wth happened? Was there any strategy or just raw physical prowess?' Look here:
Seriously this is considered his 'greatest clash' and title defence:
What even was this fight? Was the other guy even trying? This is basically what a fight with Fedor is, total submission from the other or total dominance. He brings out this thing in others and it is nonsensical even when he wins.
Stipe wins by adapting his strategy. Stipe Miocic let people challenge his belt/title three times while reigning champion and won all three, holding a record for most consecutive title defences. Don't think for one second he's just smooth sailing and dodging challenges.
Yes, Cain had some great cardio, I just think Fedor has the better resume, Coleman, Cro Cop, Big Nog, Kevin Randleman, and we can't forget HONG MAN CHOI.
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I think we both know prime Cain set the standard for cardio in MMA. The early storm would last 5 rounds lol
Be careful putting him on that pedestal, the high elevation might kill him.
You misspelled Cain Velasquez lol
Fedoras are hats. They don't fight, genius
Stipe Miocic is better.
Beat better competition in heavyweight and remained champion for a longer period of time.
It will be decided in the Cormier Vs Miocic rematch!
Of course RM accepts it.
Okay, since I misunderstood which sport this is about, I will now be representing Stipe Miocic.
My offering was meant to elicit whether non-MMA heavyweights were included in Pro's consideration. I suppose that will need to be addressed debate-side now. good luck
I will be representing Evander Holyfield.
I don't know too much about boxing. You might be right, but I am not sure.
Muhammad Ali