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For Vaarka and others who were curious, no I did not. Just a couple days after writing this I found out she was apparently dating the other TA for the class (oops)
I recently ran into a girl at a party that I'd gone on a few dates with this summer and have seen her a few times since.
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@Wylted
I never know whether to take you seriously
TA = Teacher’s Assistant
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@Wylted
Anti-town encompasses scum in my opinion. I know he's anti-town, I don't know if he's scum.
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@Greyparrot
I asked you to defend your vote. You didn't. Please do so.
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@Vaarka
@Wylted
Guys, Grey just called all 3 of us out in-thread. We need to lynch him today and if there isn't enough activity we NK him.
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@Greyparrot
Wylted is definitely right, you hammered despite not wanting to lynch Supa. Can you explain why?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Final TallyLunatic (1/7) - VaarSupa (7/7) - Aporia, Budda, Argent, DPR, Warren, Wylted, GreyResultsSupa was lynched! He was innocent.The DP is over. Stop posting.Submit night actions.
You were saying Wylted was trying to get everyone else to do his dirty work, but he was on Supa?
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I can play. I know Vaarka usually had 6/3 new players/ringers so if you want to keep that ratio probably exclude me but if not I'm happy to play
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
@Wylted
@Vader
Wylted: Can you direct me to an approximate area to analyze GP's behavior? I'll be skimming last DP now.
Supa:
It was scummy logic. While it may have been a shot in the foot, it doesn't mean he had to leave me there and Ap bandwagon is a scum thing plus there inactivity
It wasn't inherently scummy though. Town can mislynch town, and his thought process was town enough, in my opinion.
Even if they were honest mistakes, they came off as intentional attempts at subverting and scheming, which is a distinctly scum behavior.
This doesn't feel like someone learning the ropes quickly. Again I have minor concerns here.
I read through the entirety of DP1 before it's conclusion, and I honestly have not observed this scum trend that you are pushing onto GP. Quite a few of us, including two deceased town players, had a solid town read on him, one I still maintain.
Not a fan of the soft defense of GP either.
DPR:
Wylted is subtle in leading people to conclusions and decisions he would like them to make.......the first vote makes me think this. Someone who was going to wait to the last minute to cast a vote to make sure the lynching happened, but then not doing so when not needed. We should re-examine that.
I'm very confused here, because in the end the lynch did indeed happen. What's your issue with it?
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@Wylted
I meant the supa and dead players comments. Honestly I was hoping (however unlikely) to die in the night and not have to catch up on what I'd missed. I have no opinion on GP save what I said DP1
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@Wylted
I concur with both statements you've made.
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Hey guys I’ve been working on fixing my computer all day to no avail. I have no chance of catching up at this point. What’s the vote count?
VTL Supa
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@Buddamoose
No. His intent on it being seen as legitimate isn’t the same as it being legitimate. My scumread rested on the later premise.
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Yeah I'm going through the DDO archives and Ctrl+F-ing "Supa"
Very inefficient process which I am too lazy to continue.
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@Vader
Ok, cool, that's not what I asked.Never have on DP1 or DP2 hombre
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@Vader
Can you link me to a game where you were lynched, one town, one scum? Or at least give me the names of such games?
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@Aporia
I don't have definitive reasons for you being scum; you just seem too much like you're trying to avoid pushing anyone's buttons.
It's pointless to make the decision that you must be town because I scumread Supa without any flips to analyze.
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@Aporia
Town
Nobody
Townlean
Grey
His Own Little Category Between Townlean and Null
Wylted
Null
Everyone Else
Scumlean
Aporia
Vaarka
Scum
Supa
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Hell I'll throw my support behind a vaarka claim. Not Wylted though.
VTL Vaarka
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@Aporia
This Dp is getting way too long so I'm missing a few things.
Come try MU where a 15 player game regularly has 5 100+ posters D1 ;)
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Relatively unwarranted paranoia that the government is coming to get you
Not taking a jab at such folks, I'm one of them (though I don't own any firearms currently)
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@Aporia
As to Wyl, its been explained that he was scum in a beginners game (though he didnt participate) so he would know that group PM's are set up off site beforehand. He reads Parrot as town based off his response to the question but I'm not so quick to make that determination.Is yer vote on Supa?
So the question was a reaction test? Interesting. I don't find it affiliation indicative from him to do something like that then. That quells my Wylted suspicion for now. He's just a touch above null, but below a townlean. Suuuuper light townlean for him for now.
VTL SUPA
Why yes it is
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@Aporia
I assume so. His gamertag and discord name are both derivations of Lunatic, so I'm willing to make the jump that the user named lunatic on here = TUFTuf is on here???
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@Aporia
I'd most like to lynch Supa, I think. I'm interested in the reason Wylted was aware of the fact that this site doesn't allow group PMs, but he's not my biggest concern at the moment. I'm mildly concerned about pretty much everyone at the moment except Grey. I feel like he's likely town. Why did you ask me specifically?Warren from yer perspective what should the town do for the rest of the Dp?
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@McSloth
With which acronyms do you need help?
We vote to kill someone, and based on their alignment and other players' interactions with them (as well as information some players may gain in the night) we repeat day 2.
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@Vaarka
Actually I didn't read the full post. All I read was the part that I highlighted
I don't know if I believe this. The post was like two lines max.
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Sorry I was in class, gonna continue my catch-up. I'm gonna be going to the gym in a couple hours but other than that I'll be available the rest of the day.
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@Wylted
I feel guilty for putting warren in their because he is a cut above them in terms of reading comprehension. Playing ability is a different story.
Coming from you this is a compliment and I'll definitely take it.
Trying to make us think this was his first game. thinking the wagons were all intended to be lynches and the phony enthusiasm of the first post. Seen scum play up their noobishness plenty of times, but they are usually noobs when they do so.
My intentions were not to deceive people like you, Vaarka, Lunatic (who's TUF, right?), etc. I wanted to see how someone who might actually perceive me as a new player would react. I didn't get anything I really liked, but Budda's reaction was decent, as I would expect someone that scum to hedge more.
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It is an easily contrived question, but I like greyparrot's response. I'll move him to the town pile for the moment
Agreed. Grey's reaction is good. Wylted's question on the other hand I actually find mildly concerning. How did you know that there aren't group PMs on this site? I didn't until now.
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Oh and I don't like Supa's frustration at Budda. He's being very aggressive.
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Argent outting character without any sort of prompt to do so is either townie or mafia have fake claims and their partner said they should do this.
If Argent ever flips scum at least on of their partners is an experienced player.
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Catching up. Argent is either a very quick learner or lying about their level of experience. I'll see if my opinion develops one way or another.
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Vaarka’s reaction was mildly concerning because of the fact he only called out the fake enthusiasm part, when he should know that the entire thing was fabricated.
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Buddha I’ve said a few times that I thought the way you reacted to it was pretty town because if you were mafia you’d be less willing to give out such a quick town read. You’d want to keep as many musky chess as possible on the board.
The problem I have is that I don’t understand why you think I’m town for pulling the gambit, especially now that I’ve shown I’ve done something similar as mafia.
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What can anyone tell me about Argent, DPR, and McSloth?
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@Greyparrot
Can you give any specifics as to how he's behaving differently?
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@Aporia
MU games are crazy active, this one had 18 players and over 4000 posts, so I included an ISO of only my posts to make it a bit easier, but even that's gonna probably be a few hundred.
Link to the game:
Link to an ISO of me:
I was able to ask my scumbuds how to vote, request a vote count, etc. but intentionally pretended not to in hopes of getting easy townreads, which I believe I did.
Scum team:
Duk3star
Mention
Warren42
Wiggles1993
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Give me a few minutes; either they don't have a working database or I don't know how to use it
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@Aporia
I pretended to be a little noobish in my first Mafia Universe game (as scum) and got some easy townreads out of people who thought I couldn't be so oblivious about things like site meta and mechanics if I had people to talk to in wolf chat.
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I have a bad feeling about Aporia that is mostly gut. I feel as though he's being super agreeable and polite, which I don't specifically recall him being previously (though it's possible) and it could be he's avoiding conflict.
To counter that he pretty much called me a bad player and got into that argument with Budda so maybe it's paranoia.
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@Vaarka
It wasn't substantial, I was pretending to be a noob and hopefully get some meaningful interactions out of it.
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@Greyparrot
Why are you suspecting Budda?
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@Buddamoose
What if I expected to get some easy townreads out of it? I feel like there's little to no risk involved, and therefore don't quite understand the willingness to call me town. I don't think it's alignment indicative personally.
Side note: is there any way for me to turn off getting alerts each time I'm mentioned in a particular thread?
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