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texas is sticking to its guns, but its bluffing if you think it'd wage a war against the USA. it's like a small dude taunting a tough guy, cause the small guys has enough leveerage to know he can get away with it. 

maybe i misunderstood you, and you dont think war is the likely outcome. but you do think that texas should be willing to go to war. that's what you said by saying i shouldn't be calling texas stupid like a baby. the thing is, if the usa calls its bluff, texas should back down. maybe texas should continue to bluff if that's in its best interests, but it still should be only a bluff. you actually think an immigration problem is a big enough reason for texas etc to divide the usa through war? in no way does that make sense. if your point is about a trend of federal over reach, you might have a point, but we're a long way from that to be so seriously entertaining the idea that texas should be willing to go to war. 

the most likely outcome will be that texas will ignore the court order, and the feds and texas will continue with a stand off. texas will for practical purposes do what it wants to do, unless they are forced not to, which i dont think will happen. at most there might be a battle, but it won't warp into a great civil war. jumping to that conclusion is just mypotic and short sighted, stupid. 

an immigration crisis isn't a big enough reason to start a war. this is like letting a relatively small argument in a marriage end in divorce. sometimes the sides have to live with each other. and, that would be the best outcome, finding a way to deal with it. our country is stronger and better united, not divided. at its core, this is still the greatest country in history, bar none, so to try to secede or whatever a war would be for, would be, again, stupid. like a baby crying over not getting its way. 

every government is involuntary to someone inside of that government. we are still called, at least by the bible, to respect the government. our society in the usa is the greatest in history, and it's not even close. it's not perfect, but we shouldn't let good be the enemy of great. besides, this is a great country, so that's not even the question. so to start a civil war in this great country, is a morally bankrupt position.  this is mostly just loony tune talk anyway, from internet dwellers... no state is realistically going to start a civil war. 

"They (the government) are stealing. The poor are receiving a tiny cut of the stolen wealth. That is the substance of the reason why informed people have absolutely no problem with Trump or anyone else slashing federal spending."

you admit it yourself. the poor aren't getting much if you count all the spending we do. how does it make sense to say we dont spend very wise and the poor dont get much of the benefit as it is, therefore we should help them even less? 

i agree that the spending needs to be more efficient but that's a separate argument than slashing spending to people need it.

also not everyone who struggles is under the poverty line. 

a single mom makes 30k and has a couple kids, or maybe a 150% of poverty. cutting assistence to her isn't going to make everything more efficient, it's just going to make her struggle more.

your argument is that spending in inefficient therefore we should give people less basic assitance. that just ends up increasing needless suffering. 

we spend the same as other countries overall if you count private health spending and defense, we just have less social services. our social services is very basic. you want to make it even more basic, for no good reason.

you should be making arguments about how to improve the programs, not mindlessly slash spending. 

Well it's a low bar, but at least I got that goin for me... that I'm not a bug person. lolz

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/trumps-2021-budget-would-cut-16-trillion-from-low-income-programs#:~:text=The%20Trump%20Administration's%20budget%20plan,basics%20and%20access%20health%20care.

He cut taxes permanently, only for the rich. Then attacked welfare which in our country Is meager. But trumpazees and magats only care about his culture of personality. and don't care about substance

lowering calories too low is dangerous, and bad for metabolism. you deprive your body of protein and nutrients at less than 1000. your metabolism actually slows, it doesn't speed up, which is counter productive to weight loss. you want higher protein diets to increase metabolism. lean protein, i'm not implying a lot of calories. a normal man shouldn't go below fifteen hundred or maybe eighteen hundred calories for long periods of time. only under doctor supervision or for short periods should anything like 1000 calories ever be attempted. it's unheard of as it's so unhealthy for anything less than 1000. 

i dont know where you are getting your info, but you should use credible sources off google and you will reach the same conclusions. 

you are straw manning as no one is talking about force or violence. 

what do you think of my last post?

just as a practical matter, in any relationship, there will be more of an alpha and a beta with the partners. it's natural for men to be alpha given their physical attributes and emotional etc. of course there should be freedom to not adhere to this structure... but in general, it's not just a religious idea, men should be more dominant and women more submissive. even before religion, i'm sure cavemen were the dominant ones, and cave women more submissive. it's  just nature. 

one time gray parrot has said that he collects welfare, but i dont know if he was joking. i know he's said people who make minimum wage 7.25 an hour or whatever it is, should just budget better if they are struggling financially. 

equal in dignity, not in equal in everything. men are stronger, and i might think have a higher range of intelligence (more genius and retard men than women etc), and have different instincts and reactions, sexually and in relationships. men are more rational women are more emotional. men and women have different biology. 

trolls gone troll

Gandi said an eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind. Jesus said to turn the cheek instead of getting revenge. Christians believe Jesus had the right to defend himself before his death, but chose to offer himself as a sacrifice, and in the process he defeated sin and death.

ya, dat rite...  TALK 2 DA HAND, FACE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND

i agree that most people are zombies to culture and political party. we shouldn't know what a person believes, without even talking to them, by simply looking at common party platforms. there's too many independent ideas, as you said, on each list.

with that said, as ive said before... you spend way too much time trying to find consistency in beliefs and then attack anyone who doesn't follow your views. there's all kinds of ways to differientiate beliefs. someone can be against abortion cause it's a human but believe in big government which isn't party line, others may be for it cause they think the localest decision is the woman, even if they prefer local governing decisions in generl and aren't liberal. there's just so many ways to view the world and you try too much to make everything black and white. 

you spend so much time creating hard and fast beliefs, or truths. i dont think you're convincing others that much, but you are developing your world view, which has merit to that. i am different than you in beliefs... i stick to general principle on most things, and understand that reasonable people can differ on details, even me sometimes when being i'm wishy washy. 

i agree that we should try to use their pronouns and such. but with that said, i've known trans people and when it become a real life practical thing, it can be super hard to keep their pronouns straight. they usually dont even mind if you sincerely are trying. 

back when i was a kid, a pussy and breasts made ya a woman and a dick and balls made ya a man. and i'd say that's generally still the case. 

it's also related to how the gold standard is such a bad idea. no gold standard and printing money causes the economy to be stimulated. if people get scared to spen money, at least the fundamentals are such that things are moving, being stimulated. recessions are more common and last longer when we have gold or no printing as our standard. maybe inflation protected securities should be more common and pushed, for the types that save a lot and dont invest otherwise... cause the only bad thing about inflation is that it erodes the spending power of savers who dont invest. 

it's a way of saying "i dont care what society thinks of expressing it this way... i really want to stress this point, so i will use this profane word" 

i think non profane words can emphasize a point, but sometimes a point can't be emphasized the right way without profanity. yes profanity isn't necesary, but if your proclivities allow for it, it's a unique way of getting a point across. 

you do realize that what you are doing is exactly how conspiracy theorists operate, even when they are wildly wrong, right? they find a random source that no one's ever heard of, then claim it's credible, and wont even consider that it's not credible, even when it's not. 

your argument is pathetic. 

To be able to really stress a point

I always propose proportionalism in response to those who say the ends can never justify the means even in difficult situations like this

that's not how it works. you can't credibly find a random source that may or may not be credible on the internet and claim it as proof of something. the burden is you, the one making the claim, to establish that you have a credible source. if what you say is true, it should be easy to find a credible source, that most people would acknowledge as a credible source. 

it's actually laughable that you think what you posted passes as a real argument. i think you are rationalizing and lacking critical thinking skills here. 

I know I said u should read from the nihilists, and I still think that. But it'd be more empowering for u to read from the existentialists. Both theist and non theist existentialists 

what denomination of christian are you? 

i dunno if that's a reliable source. a common problem from trumpsters are that they follow conspiracy theories with sources that arent credible or that we have no reason to think is credible. i'm the opening poster... im open to the idea that the election was rigged. but i need evidence from credible sources. 

it would be wise if you said trump is unfit, but you will vote for him as he is your only choice for practical purposes. that would be plausibly rational. instead, as always, you deflect and focus on things that are irrelevant. 

so if one of the entagangled electrons changes charge or postiion, that doesn't cause the other one to change? so they can be entangled at great distances, but we basically wont necessarily know for how long they're actually entangled, because what happens to one doesn't automatically happen to the other? 

if i'm understanding you right. 

if a corresponding change happened to the other even if just instantaneous and no further... itd at least be possible to use multiple entangled particles to send information to the other side. but it looks like you are saying we can't know when entanglemnt is broken on the opposite side of when one side changing. 

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women fuck around until 30 then have high standards for the next five to ten years, or shit happens and it takes longer. these women miss out on having biological children and lose out on finding a decent mate when pickings are best, when they are younger. yes, studies show single women are the happiest of all demographics, but many of these single women wanted a decent husband and children, and never got them, and end up rationalizing about their situation or settling in life. all those things i mentioned in my last post, definitely hurt women. 

it definitely takes a concerted effort to overcome one's own biases and to sift through propaganda in our news. some people are very skilled at defending a tribe, but its often only through a partisan lens. 

college expectations for youth, has harmed women

hook up culture, has harmed women

social media, has harmed women

internet dating, has harmed women

women are just pawns in this downfall of society.  most of the time they aren't aware of the forces at play. women get harmed, and men become the collateral damaged victims too 

are you a conservative? i dont know enough of your posts, but you look like a super smart/intellectual conservative, which to my prejudices isn't very common. 

who is worse... a hardcore libertarian, or a MAGA politician? 

well i dont have a break down of how often the governors did it illegally, and i dont have a break down beyond govenors of when it was legal v illegal. it's my impression that the governmors breaking the law was common enough to change the election. i could be wrong. i think there's at least enough doubt here to at least say the election might have been rigged. truth often lies in uncertainty and needs investigated to be established. 

i also think the fact this sort of thing isn't talked about more, is evidence the media is bias. i mean, i take it as a given, that there's a liberal bias in the media, which to me is fair given i think there's a liberal bias to reality... but sometimes the truth isn't conveyed properly in the media due to unfair bias. 

you around the forum? im curious what your take is 

it happened a lot in many states. in order to get a mail in vote thing, by law the citizen was suppose to request it. but, due to covid, many governors sent out those mail in vote things, to everyone or a lot of people. they technically broke the law by doing this. if that hadn't been done, given the election was already so close anyway in a lotta states, i'd surmise that the election would have changed for trump. another part of that logic, was it was mostly liberals who voted by mail. 

the most i've seen as far as a fair counter to this, was the republicans should have challenged this in court, and that that was their legal recourse whether they did or didn't. that's true... but the fact remains that many enough govenors probably broke the law enough, to change the outcome of the election. in short, the election was rigged. 

i ain't a trumpanzee either, and most of trumpanzee ideas are baseless conspiracy theories... but these facts are accurate, and they are what they are. 

sounds like u can't catch a break in life, eh? 

thanks for the quantum mechanics 101 lesson. i thought i already knew the basics, but apparently not 

Does religion include social convention too? I don't see poor atheists murdering the rich... tho I suspect many of them r more religious than they r self aware of

see my last post to double 

so how would you address the science? thermodynamics as far as we know, requires something of lower entropy to produce something of higher entropy. this is a firm rule, as far as we know. the only science that i see skeptics use, is the fact that empty space has quanta. sure, that's true, but the glaring hole in this argument is that space and particles are all a part of space... therefore it doesn't necessarily follow that we can extrapolate to the beginning of the universe like that. we have a firm rule being violated for those who think something caused the universe, and an illogical proposition from skeptics. all you are doing, is reverting to philosophy when confronted with the science.... but like i said, it's possible philsophy can have no bearing on reality, like math sometimes. 

I know some folks say good faith, or honesty in lay men's terms, is what the legal standard already is for him. But some people debate it.

But just in terms of justice, would it be fair to find him guilty if he was lying about his reasons to overturn the election, and let him go if his reasons for trying were honest?

I think there's a certain justice there, tho it looks like he knew he was lying, sometimes, while other times he had no grasp of reality and probably believed his own bullshit 

If the charge of the particle changes, wouldn't the charge on the other end also change? Can't that phenomenon be manipulated? If it even works that way

It looks like u r into software, r u a developer? How r u so conversant on quanta phenomenon? Is it job or hobby related?

I think there's reasonably clear proof of God, but atheists deny all terms and conditions so they hold on at best to plausible deniability. 

You should philosophize on the after life more. There's a growing number of atheists who believe in the afterlife but most of the time they r completely idiotic/irrational

Every developed country has a social safety net. Only undeveloped countries don't. The real question is to focus on how much of a net is best. The USA spends about what other developed countries spends, if private Healthcare is included in USA. USA has less of a social net cause we spend twice as much on Healthcare and our military is bigger than the next biggest counties combined