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@Mr.BrotherD.Thomas
Therefore, tell the membership in where do you get the authority to be in this Religion Forum in the first place in going directly against your diaper-headed Muslim clerics, where they tell you NOT to argue or try and defend your cess-pool faith of Islam as explicitly shown below!!!
You totally misunderstood the meaning of it. It advises:

Malik ibn Anas advises against engaging in unnecessary arguments to defend the Sunnah. Instead, the person should present the Sunnah to others in a clear and respectful manner. If there is a possibility that the audience may accept and understand the Sunnah through the conveyance, then the person should proceed with conveying it. On the other hand, if there is a likelihood that arguing may lead to unnecessary disputes or harm, then it is recommended to remain silent.

Allah said in the Quran,
Invite all to the Way of your Lord with wisdom and kind advice, and only debate with them in the best manner. [Quran 16:125]

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said,
Narrated Abdullah bin Amr:
The Prophet said, "Convey (my teachings) to the people even if it were a single sentence, and tell others the stories of Bani Israel (which have been taught to you), for it is not sinful to do so. [Sahih al-Bukhari 3461]

Now, even though Malik ibn Anas didn't advise us to not argue or debate about religious topics; but, even if I say he did, it is not impossible for him to be wrong. My job is to follow my God and his messenger as Allah said in the Quran,
Say, (O Muhammad), If you should love Allah, then follow me, (so) Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. [Quran 3:31]

Thank you for reading till the end!
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@IlDiavolo
It's great to see that yours and mine thinking matches a lot.

... God created us and God know us best so is it not logical that God would sent a holy book that would guide us? This also removes some religion from out list.

Well, I wanted to refer to the Quran, though I know, you won't like this as an answer too. (Please pardon me if not.)

The reason I believe that the Quran is God's word is because it itself says that it is exactly the word of God and even a slight change to it won't occur and there won't be any error in it. I have not found any undeniable or undefendable error in the Quran and that's why I think that the Quran is from God.

It's interesting to talk to you. Let me know your thoughts about it!
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@Stephentz
All the above, with the exception of Muhammad, were either Hebrew or Jew. 
Well, as you are claiming this, you have to prove it first.

Ok, So before I attempt to address what you have called the "self sacrifices" of these prophets one at a time,  could you for instance tell me which of the above prophets gave/ sacrificed their lives and for what reason?
Well, I have told you in the previous response about what I meant by "self sacrifices". However, here is a brief list about how the above mentioned prophets risked/ sacrificed their lives to deliver God's message to people-

Prophet Hud: Faced with rejection and threats of violence from his people, he tirelessly preached against idol worship and injustice. They made fun of him and even attacked him, which left him partially blind. But he did not give up. He continued to offer guidance to his people until they faced the consequences of their disobedience.

Prophet Ibrahim: He was asked to kill his son Ismail as a test of his faith. Even though it was very painful, he obeyed God without hesitation. He was ready to do it till the end. This showed that he had complete faith in God.

Prophet Ismail: At young age, Ismail demonstrated remarkable courage and faith when he readily agreed to his father's sacrifice.

Prophet Shu'aib: The people of Midian did not accept his message of justice and fairness. They made fun of him, threatened him, and even threw stones at him. But he did not give up. He continued to remind them of their moral duties and the risks of disobeying them.

Prophet Musa: Firon chased Prophet Musa and his compenions with his entire force to kill them. Fled persecution in Egypt after standing up for the oppressed Israelite slaves, risking his own safety for justice. Led the Israelites through the harsh wilderness for 40 years, enduring their doubts and complaints while providing guidance and hope.

Prophet Zakariya: Despite facing persecution for his teachings, he continued to spread God's message with unwavering faith. He was even martyred for his beliefs.

Prophet Yahya: He spoke out against injustice, which led to his imprisonment and eventual execution. He never gave up on his commitment to truth and justice, even when he was in danger.

Prophet Isa: Despite his message of love, kindness, and belief in one God, he faced opposition from some groups among the Israelites. His teachings and miracles were met with doubt, and a plot to crucify him was hatched. However, Allah saved him from crucifixion and raised him to the heavens.

Prophet Muhammad: A lot can be said about him. He faced many challenges throughout his life, including persecution, rejection, and even attempts on his life. However, he persevered through it all and established a thriving community based on faith and justice.
(I recommend studying at least about this person's life if not all.)

Thank you for reading till the end!
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@zedvictor4
What the Quran and the Hadith mentioned 1400 years ago, does stand up to 21st century scrutiny. And, that's why we believe in Islam. The Holy Quran contains many scientific verses and prophecies, some of them have been proved very recently. If you want me to point them, let me know. I will try to do that!


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@Stephen
Which prophets?
There are many prophets in Islam, but 25 are mentioned in the Quran. All of them have their own great stories which helps us to know them better. You can check out this link:

How did they "sacrifice themselves"?
Well, they could have fooled people, live a luxurious life; but instead, they chose to spread the message of God to the people. People thought they were crazy person or maybe thought they were fake prophets and did not believe them. Moreover, they tortured them, tried to kill them. Many of prophets were actually killed by people of that time. So, in a way, they "sacrificed themselves".
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@Mr.BrotherD.Thomas
Why Christianity is the true religion? Watch the video given below to see what Christians believe about why Christianity is the true religion.

I can point out numerous errors in the Bible on counter of this video, but for now, I will just mention this verse from the Bible.
And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”
[Mark 16:17-18]

It is a test for true Christian believers. Have you ever seen a Christian who have passed this test? In scientific terminology, it is called as "Falsification test" which means, if a false person tries this test, he/ she will be harmed. Is there not a single true Christian believer in the world?

This will be my only question to you for now!
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@zedvictor4
What created the creator.
It's a common question when we talk about a higher power. People wonder where this creator came from and it's logical to ask. Look, the creator is special, not bound by the same rules as everything else. The creator has qualities like being outside of time and all-powerful. So, asking what made the creator might not make sense in the same way it does for normal things in the world. When we talk about the universe starting, it's important to separate what happens in our everyday world from the idea of a super-powerful creator. While we use cause-and-effect for things we see, using the same idea for a creator involves guessing about what the creator is like. Basically, the question of who made the creator makes us think about how much we understand and how tricky it is to talk about things beyond what we see. People have different ideas, and that's what makes these discussions interesting!

Can you prove that Holy books weren't in fact written by men?
There are some things that a God-gifted Holy book should have.
1. Does it answer the fundamental questions that people might run into?
2. What message does it deliver?
3. Does it contradict to established science?
4. Is there any historical error or any internal contradiction?

Even being a Muslim, I put my emotions aside and tried to find errors in the Quran. And trust me, I did not find a single unexplainable or undefendable mistake in the Quran as I found numerous in other scriptures. I would say, it is very easy to prove that the Holy Quran weren't indeed written by men. Instead of me proving the Quran is not written by men, why not you tell me the reason you think the Holy book was written by men!

And what is the difference between a prophet and a charlatan...The answer being, what we are either compelled to believe or choose to believe.
If we look at the life of the prophets, you can clearly understand that they were not fake. They sacrificed themselves for higher purpose, they faced many trouble, they endured torture from people around them. If you think that they claimed to be prophet for self serving purpose, what did they get?

Let me know your thoughts!

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@IlDiavolo
I only know about two such countries where women are forced to unnecessary laws. In Iran, they force women to wear hijab. And in Afghanistan, the Talibans are restraining women from doing jobs, sports etc.

There could be political motives in the Iran's case. And, we all know that the Talibans are brainwashed terrorists who misinterpret the word "Jihad" and violating human rights. The typical citizen even the little students are being brainwashed to join war.

Here is a vlog that you could watch to know Afghanistan better:

These two situations are cultural, not universal. Take my country as an example. I am from Bangladesh. There are about 180 million people in my country, where about 89-91% of the people are Muslim and 7.95-10% are Hindu and small numbers of Buddhist & Christian as well. There are Mosques and Temples beside one another. Women are given the right as men. In fact, the prime minister of our country is a woman who is in power for about 15 consecutive years.

I hope you understand the situation better!
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@IlDiavolo
Indeed, the Muslim men and Muslim women, the believing men and believing women, the obedient men and obedient women, the truthful men and truthful women, the patient men and patient women, the humble men and humble women, the charitable men and charitable women, the fasting men and fasting women, the men who guard their private parts and the women who do so, and the men who remember Allah often and the women who do so - for them Allah has prepared forgiveness and a great reward. [Quran 33:35]


For men there is a share in what their parents and close relatives leave, and for women there is a share in what their parents and close relatives leave—whether it is little or much. These are obligatory shares. [Quran 4:7]


Bro, Islam doesn't treat women badly. If you have seen any Muslim behaving bad to women, they are doing bad. But Islam doesn't tell them to do it.

(I am just a new learner. If I have missed anything, you can point it out to me!)
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@Best.Korea
Bro, I am a Muslim and here is why I think Islam is true. 

Let's take this approach:

Since, we cannot directly prove God, we can use a unique approach. In Islam & Christianity, the God is believed to be All-Knowing & Omnipotent. If God is All-Knowing, he cannot make any mistake, right? The Quran is believed to be the exact word of God. And even being a Muslim, I tried to find mistakes from the Quran that is undefendable or something that is huge mistake. I could not find anything. In fact, the Quran contains many scientific facts & prophecies as signs and there is no contradiction in it. Some prophecies has become true recently. How could a person (Prophet Muhamma PBUH) tell something 1400 years ago?

Correct me if I am wrong!
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@Best.Korea
Could you please tell me why do you think that religion is nonsense?

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Hi! My name is Roby. I am 18 years old. I born in a Muslim family. But unlike many people, I just do not believe in Islam just because my father or grandfather or family members are Muslim. I thought and searched a lot of questions that comes to my mind. What I noticed is that everyone interprets the controversial things of their religion in a positive way, but does not want to agree this kind interpretation that other religious experts come up with.

There are 4300 religions in the world. It's not possible to go through every single religion, but we can use some steps.

1/ Is there a creator? When I look at the world, I believe that there is an intelligent designer who created the universe. How could the universe come into existence from nothingness? There has to be a greater power, right? (Let me know what you think!)

2/ The above point removes some religion from our list including Buddhism & Jainism. Now we need to think about another point.
When we buy a new phone, the manual comes up with the phone so that it helps us from falling to any confusion. Just like this, God created us and God know us best so is it not logical that God would sent a holy book that would guide us? This also removes some religion from out list.

3/ Now that we have got the holy book, do we not need someone who would deliver the message to us? We need Prophets for that. And only Islam, Christianity & Judaism describes this concept the best.

For the past couple of years, I have been looking for the answers of my questions trough these religions. I have studied a lot about Islam and Christianity. 

I want to know what makes you stick to your faith? If you are an Atheist, Muslim, Christian, Jew or whoever you are, you are welcomed to provide your proof  or logic. Let's have a friendly and rational conversation!

Let me start with this question to my Christian brothers:

There are scientific, mathematical, historical error and many internal contradictions in the Bible. Some people say that the errors in Bible doesn't prove Christianity wrong. My question is, if you believe in some part of the Bible (and do not believe in some parts), aren't there chances that what you believe from the Bible could also be wrong? And, if the religious scripture contains some wrong information, how would Christians be guided?

(My English is not good. Pardon me if I there is any grammatical error or if I have asked a bad question.)

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