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Anyways I wasn't paying attention anyways so that's probably wrong
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I didn't even watch the game. The only thing I noticed was that Barney's softclaim was really obvious and it was genuinely crazy for Vader to claim Damien after that. Town should not have won that game especially after Austin's terrible DP1 play.
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@Greyparrot
That makes sense, pressuring Pie early into a character claim probably won us the game
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@WyIted
Apologies, your recommendations were good but your plays were not
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Did anyone actually watch the video I put for tantrum? It got absolutely steamrolled. Austin told me after I had already posted and as i suspected nobody watched it
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@Lunatic
In my defense, I am unironically very busy IRL and Wylted did not do me many favors in terms of his behavior and recommendations.
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Okay I just quickly read over everything and I'm a little confused about all the claims. I think someone is lying here. Honestly what I thought in the last round is a lot different than what I think now but I think that wylted is scum and rm is probably town (the same as what I thought last time). For a lot of the other people it's a bit unclear.
Why didn't we vote wylted last time anyways
VTL wylted
I think this is the right move here but what are we gonna do next? like whats the plan?
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@RationalMadman
I'm not really sure how to use it on joebob because tonight is odd night, right?
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@RationalMadman
I'm the unlimited even night jailkeeper and austin told me irl to pick someone so I picked you because I thought that the shield was down and mafia would shoot the cop. I thought you were town of course and also thinking pretty smart. Im sorry for not participating a lot because I've had a lot of homework.
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@RationalMadman
Ok Austin said something like Tantrum can disrupt and control the opponent like a Jailkeeper. I can lock down adversaries, preventing them from wreaking havoc on our team. Tantrum strategically manuevers in the arena and similarly I strategically keep possible threats at bay.
The video was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtb4aud8io
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@whiteflame
Is it possible to have 2 jailkeepers??? My character is Tantrum and it's a jailkeeper as well.
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@RationalMadman
I also forgot to mention 491. Here is 491 and 499:
Supa has had plenty of time to post, and joebob still has time to post thoughts, willing to unvote if anything new comes up.Where it stands 7k is the best option here. If he is town I am at least hoping there was some logic to this play maybe we can read into. If there is no logic for his actions and he's just trolling I say we just black list him from mafia in future games. I at least won't play with a player who literally plays just to take up a slot and sh1tpost with no intention of playing to his wincon.I am slightly scum reading RM for his behavior (specifically how ******ed defensive he got against 7k in the beginning and his omgus towards wylted). I think scum are trying to distance themselves from each other here. RM and wylted could both very well be scum in this situation despite my current town leaning on wylted. They could be using this CC situation to make it seem like they are not on the same team, and lets be real, RM has been hard on wylted all day even prior to the claim situation. Also claiming that there is "Art" to what he is doing. I fail to see the art in his playstyle if he is town, but I can definitely see it if he is scum and trying to make it seem that he and wylted are on different teams if they are in fact in the same mafia group. The whole "art" post to me definitely seems to be bragging about something and I just don't see anything pro town his "art" has contributed to.As it stands I don't buy wylted's claim, but I also think I know what he is doing if he is town so I'll let it play out in future day phases and see if his play is consistent with the strategy I think he is using.
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7k has had plenty of opportunity to change or sway our minds and blatantly refused to do so. If your gonna act like a terrorist, time to get treated like one. He's holding his claim hostage, and hasn't let on any reason for us to believe he's doing it for a townie reason. The second he claimed inside knowledge about who scum is he should have been doing this. Also the post deletion kind of seals the deal for me. There is never any pro town reason to delete a post in mafia.
In 499, he notes a couple key things
- 7k is silent and refuses to answer much. Wylted seems to have answered more stuff based on the summaries I was provided
- 7k does not appear to be town
- 7k claimed insider knowledge and deleted his post.
- "There is never any pro town reason to delete a post in mafia." Maybe I'm gullible but this makes sense. But I am curious, is lunatic experienced enough for this?
In 491 he notes:
- 7k seems to be possibly trolling
- RM (You) are suspicious in some ways. I don't necessarily agree with this, but honestly it has partially swayed me against 7k.
- Notes evidence on how you hyperfixate on Wylted\
- The last sentence is very similar to my thoughts; he's possibly doing some meta play that's going over my head
- "As it stands I don't buy wylted's claim, but I also think I know what he is doing if he is town so I'll let it play out in future day phases and see if his play is consistent with the strategy I think he is using."
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@RationalMadman
499 made sense to me (and still makes sense, barring any evidence that you have refused to provide). Whiteflame's 458 is also another argument that led me to this conclusion.
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@RationalMadman
Can you show me when that happened? I'm also confused by your argument that Wylted would specifically come after you (if he was cop, he had little to no information to go off and 7k was acting weird at the beginning). Perhaps I'm missing some context?
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At this point, I feel like I've seen the arguments from both sides and honestly whiteflame and lunatic are pretty convincing. I'm not completely rigid with this decision and am willing to discuss this and change later, but for the moment I see voting 7k as the right move.
VTL 7000series
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@RationalMadman
You can @ people by clicking the bottom right of their post. You can quote them but need to paste it in.
Usually I just typed it in the mentions box, but thanks for the tip anyways
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The problem is that we have to trust your word on that. There's not much indication that you are that role, but also not much indication otherwise. That's why I don't see it particularly grounded in fact
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The CC seems a little strange to me, especially with the faction kill protections. On the other hand, both wylted and 7k's arguments seem poorly-founded. 7k has been kind of annoying though, especially at the beginning. That makes me inclined to vote him, but I am curious what you guys think
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Hello, I'm back. Could everyone update me on what's been going on? Tbh I'm a little confused
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@whiteflame
Apologies for the late response, I was a little busy. I don’t know what he wrote in his post but if it was more information like that then I would agree, that is extremely suspicious.
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How do I sign up for this? I'd like to join.
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DebateArt is a website where people can argue and create
But lately people have started to evacuate
The election was a sham, a mockery of democracy
He bribed the voters with his money and hypocrisy
And now the president of the website is lazy and aloof
He does not listen to the feedback or any proof
That his website is failing and needs his care to revive
Or it will reach its bitter end and cease to be alive
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@AustinL0926
We are not talking about real life as clearly real life could use a combination of these platforms.
Additionally, we would have to limit it as you could just say "Wikipedia, khan academy, AND the BBC website" and I would be fighting an unwinnable battle.
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@AustinL0926
I think it's also important to recognize that in this context we are referring to online learning platforms.
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@AustinL0926
Alright, we can set up a debate.
What do you think beats it?
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If the site survives that long, anyways.
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I think if we can be more consistent then next year we can get a good president.
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Yeah, we need more consistency.
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@AustinL0926
If we agree then there's no debate.
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@DebateArt.com
How long have you been developing this site?
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I feel like the limit is unnecessary. If you don't participate but accept a bunch of debates you will get banned/blocked probably.
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