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if socialists understood economy they wouldnt be socialists, the fact that you still dont understand how capitalism and the market laws are natural wich means they were not created they were discovered, then you would see my point, either way tell me how, enlighten me, what is communism for you??

no one said it doesnt why are you putting words in my mouth, all im saying is that the governemnt doesnt really make anything, it just uses the state to steal money and use it for their own purposes, and some enterpises in the middle of the recycling process dont even care about this stuff and just get benefits from it

so you understand, capitalism is like gravity it can kill someone if you throw  them off a cliff but it can also be the reason why you get to even walk

in communsim no new goods are created jus redistributed against the owners will, being a system that works merely on violating the will of the people being strongly and purely antidemocratic, and yes slavery was capitalism, and yes war is also capitalism, you seem not to understand that it is a savage concept that can be taken advantage of, doing anything else is purely a waste of time and resources. it does seem you understand capitalism now, see this is why liberalism was created, because it carrys the premise of the principle of no agression and the use of the state not to redistribute wealth or goods, but to protect individual will as any thriving society should. what is the use of having a powerful country based over constant violation of its citiziens choices, its a repulsive system, that only uses democracy and politics as an excuse to exert aritocracy these people think theyre kings or something

free market capitalism is the most optimal system for both growth and prosperity for mankind both on a short and long term lapse prove me wrong.

nothing to say??

listen nobody ever said that things dont run out, do you understand???? all i said is that we find an alternative one way or another is that clear someway?

i didnt know there were 7 billion people i thought it was more

capitalism is a concept that stands to even a cellular level because its literally the creation of a good from a current one, even using the energy they posses to reproduce, bacterias do this, and the market laws apply to even our very bodys, example youre learning something new (demand) but you were learning something before (where the offer is at) now your new learning will make your brain cells reach the demand of information so basically offer meets demand this works in a brain as it does in an ecosystem where different species of different sizes work and live in harmony all competing in their own market to see who strives for more, and even on how the body makes scarring from wounds or even how te inmune system works you laugh but you dont realise that capitalism and free market its like gravity, it was not made it was discovered and its unnevitable all living things work and live by it regardless of what they do, you either have absoulute freedom, anarchism or a minimum government.

we have been mining coal since the industrial revolution are you serious right now?? you seriously dont see that humanity progresses to something better than what we have today, coal industry is literally going down because of renewable energys and youre talking like we are on the 19th century then you say im insane when ou cant even plant yourself in time

you think enterprises are dum, clearly you cant see that the market is even on communism because it is unevitable it works on all living things, if an enterprise sees itself being beneficted by the government for doing something like that then they will go at it, besides, the enterprises that make recycling literally have nothing to do with it, they just transform the materials to something else while not caring about anything damn id say it even pollutes more of you think about it

In parallel, oxidation can break down the biopolymer structure to form low-molecular-weight compounds, which is found to be a key step during artificial coal formation. The artificial coal synthesized has a high degree of coalification. you can make coal

and the only use for it is for energy, if we plan to go anywhere else beyond this planet we most definitely should have discovered a new way of energy perhaps nuclear

there is vegetable coal

yes ofc minerals being the only non renewable thing 

youre talking me about recycling wealth being ridiculous JAJHJAHJHAJHAJHA  THERE IS NO WAYYYY literally communism is recylcing wealth instead of creating it and also you say "the government" when you dont realise that there is an insane amount of private companys that dive into this business. dude you literally laughed at yourself for being a communist its unbelievable JSHJHJSA

i literally never said that

"So you think if something isnt finite, that everything isnt finite."

idk if you knew but plants grow a lot there is a thing called a cycle it works to all biological things in nature and if the world didnt evolve it would remain like that until the sun inflates and the earth gets cold and all that just goes away and dies

humans can grow food undefinitely there is still so much more to harvest in this planet and if we go beyond, living will be easy by how agriculture will evolve to that point, and please enlighten me on how innovation works in your system and what does mankind do after reaches the 99th chocolate??

and also the thing about capitalism is that anything can be of value even trash, thats why recylcing is one of the most prosperous businesses predicted to grow over to 88 billion dollars, anything can be of value because it all relys on peoples needs

not everything in the universe is finite mr thanos, if your plan is murdering people to have more resources go at it and if it isnt then live as long as you can as a species and die, also i havent been disrepectful to you in any ocassion you are the one who is constantly mocking me instead of giving me vaild reasons and answers, not everthing is a rock btw

will you answer my question?? what happens to society after a lapse of time, and also capitalism isnt just spending money you have a misconception of it it is creating wealth off current wealth and the market laws work just to please people in a competitive way its not just greedy pigs munching over each other, i honestly would like to keep this respectful there is no need to ridiculize anyone, if anything it just shows how little to nothing you have to say, because you have to basically follow my premise necessity creates innovation but youre clearly not a good capitalist because putting someone down for simply stating facts you havent disproved isnt innovating

i think that  the potential of human growth relys both on its freedom to grow and prosper voluntairly we could start devoloping geoingeneering one day and maybe even create our own solar systems, this is the power of capitalism and free market its not just finding something and ending it, today we see minerals as finite but tomorrow we might even be able to harvest them, as we do with food, we did it with animals at one point, also i am not saying that all humans do is find another resource to consume completely im saying that humanity finds an alternative to a necesity. and you still havent answered my question, does your society plan to die one way or another??

also is your solution to just die as a species??  because human population will keep growing and resources will keep ending even with your planned stuff, i said this before your society ends mine doesnt, besides lets say you make food last forever earth doesnt last forever so you just give up?? its a bit nihilistic

if somehow you think that the best argument is to diqualify me and take me for a fool or a lunatic for merely stating a fact you still havent disproved. then i need no more proof that you clearly have nothing to say. the clearest example and the most basic one too is that humans when they were hunter gatherers actually had to spread their resources in a much more balanced way because of how scare and finite they were yet there was a point when agriculture was discovered and we didnt had to care anymore does that make it clear, i know these are two very different examples but it seems that you still dont understand the fact that necesity creates motivation we mus prevail or we die.

im saying that humans historically find new ways to thrive in any form or way they find possible, when america was discovered for example, when the burgoise was born after feudalism ended, the fact that you believe that humans are meant to be born and die on earth is not just sad but shows shows how much communism/socialism is only meant to  end, capitalism doesnt end because it cant its made out of the creation of wealth from current wealth. necessity of pushing through creates new forms to push through, do i explain myself? also in your example they run out of chocolate and thats it, in capitalism they just find something else not just because they can (free will wich communism does not posses) but because they have to.

i think you dont understand capitalism, your planned economy is a moneyless society, while capitalism works from work, the more useful you are the more capable of achieveing greatness you will be, besides chocolate isnt the only resource available the thing about something being scare is that people innevitably find an alternative, beyond that the capitalist society is made of striving and competitive therefore innovating people, while the communist one is made of lazy complacient people with no desire nor ambition, ask me wich is more human or wich one is more likely to thrive. i think its obvious. real life example in a capitalist thriving society where resources do run out because they do, humans would have just started farming planets, but only on a capitalist one where people compete to please others, and the one that pleases the most gets the most, only then where competition innevitably equals innovation.

democrats lost beacuse, you cant put unnecesary stuff over other essential needs, when you cant afford housing or food, you are very much not gonna care if a guy gets his pp cut off or if you can or cant abort, look at the hierarchy of needs from maslow, is basic stuff they ignored, prioritys man.