to resume what i mean in a few words, capitalism=investment system=market both are unevitable, i think i may have made myself way too long, and human economys work more like symbiosis where there is codependence like bees and flowers, consumers and companys.
great then lets go, btw its my first time in this site and i dont really know how to publish arguments so i will start doing most of it here, hope its ok, and well, my first argument starts like this, Capitalism is merely a natural concept that exists way before mankind itself, it began with the first ever cellular form, how is economy related to evolution?? well capitalism beyond economy and trade its the use of resources, and the capitalist concept is the creation of wealth from current wealth, example, you have a cow and use its milk to buy a new cow, now you make twice as much milk and so on, more cows more milk, its a basic example, having this concept explained, we understand that capitalism as it is, it was not made by humanity wich makes it perfect on its own way, now how do the market laws apply?? well these are also natural, for example, your brain on learning something new, the demand of information causes the resources to move from one place to the other, you learned something before but now you dont care so you forget but you still learn this new thing, its an example of a market logic in how brain cells work, an ecosystem is another example somewhere where different entitys work each separately yet still influence each other, whilst comepeting in their own markets, you also have the inmune system itself and how different cells or supply attending the need or demand from the patogen, see how the inmune system "innovates" or find its own way to handle the situation by adapting itself to the "needs" of the the patogen or what the body requires to be healthy, this is shown in how everything in nature is also a competition, market logic applys to all little and big living things everywhere because all of these act out of bare evolution from capitalism the creation of a good from a current one, having this said, a society a healthy one should let everyone be and live as they should while making sure the classical principal of liberalism wich is the principle of no aggression is respected, this comes with enhancing liberty on both a social and economical level, meaning no one is meant to do anything they dont want to and no one can hurt or violate a freedom from another person, i can explain as well how society freedom works, through the market logic,
yeah as long as it is a system where freedom of choice is respected, because this is what truly puts resources where they "belong" or should be at wich is where the demand asks it to be
i mean by ultimate as the best or the only functional one, the model society i mean to explain is one that is free both economically socially and politically, also one that does have a state a small one that only makes sure that individuals are able to be competent yet not to live for and by the state.
you are right it is vague, what i mean to say is that the use of pure free markets and the respect of owners free will to do as they must is the most optimal way to get a healthy growing thriving society, and i mean this not just in economics but also in politics and even to a social level
well capitalism is a natural concept that stands to all living things to even a cellular level, the concept itself is to create a new good from an current one, the constant creation of new wealth it is, this is something that applys to even the wildest species, even non intelligent life, wich is also why the free market system is something that is also natural and non created by humans yet still unnevitably used because as i said capitalism and also market logic apply to human nature i can show more examples why both macro and micro level
the thing is that inflation would have kept raising because of government deficit for financing wars and inmigrant plans and all this unnecessesary stuff for americans and also harmful for the world politically and economically as i said so inflation and global tension
my point is rich people will be fine wether they get richer or not if inflation goes nuts if there is a civil war if poberty grows up to 99% they will suffer too obviously, but they will be fine anyways, believe it or not having free big corporations is better for the people than it is for the rich
best case scenario you are sweden and you do actually do something with those taxes, great then all cool, free economy, growth no problem, a lot of public stuff, but still kamala isnt that she was the vice president the last four years and honestly didnt do a difference at least not for good
sure it might be true im not saying i disagree, but it is still a fact that growth will most definitely see itself down, and besides kamala what really would have done with all those taxes really?? would have been the cost of that growth been worth idk financing illegal inmigrants or even paying a transition surgery to an inmate??
ok we might disagree but it is a fact that higher taxes on companys that are big not just because they are big they are big because people use them, if these suffer regulations higher taxes then growth plummets, by having to raise prices to match the costs required of sustaining an enterprise, wich leads to less consumption and less growth, basically these companys dont enhance themselves as they should and could and also dont create more employment, we could disagree on wether rich people deserve to pay more or less but it is a fact that this heavily affects NORMAL americans more than rich people, rich people will be rich wether they grow or not but NORMAL people will see themselves having to struggle with buying food, clothes, and finding a job because sure they will have more money because they have less taxes but inflation will still increase for all ive mentioned before on government deficit and the obvious response of big corporations to higher taxes, capitalism is a game of adaptation they raise prices people buy less, there is less growth enterprises leave no one to serve and if there is they arent as efficient, it happened in latin america.
besides these big enterprises invest in smaller businesses and other projects with foreign companys wich also enhances entrepeneuring and overall aconomy
see the prices system works its own way and the government only changes corrupts it by taxes or price controls this leads to a domino effect that just takes societys down on a growth indicator
well as you know the true producers and creators of wealth in the world are that one percent they push mankind forward by finding new ways to please people in a cheaper way both for them and their workers, creating more employment and overall enhancing the economy by increasing consumption and keeping reasonable prices if you put high taxes on big corporations that are big because people use them then they will see themselves forced to raise prices wich overall leads to less growth less employment and major discontent of the people like right now.
also i agree the country had a great reliance on oil wich made it unstable but still expropiation played a huge role in the crisis, either way one of the biggest reason why kamala would have been way worse is the raise of taxes the insane money printing and bad funding of the government in general the US as it is already has a huge deficit and recently there has been a lot of stuff that the government made to fund different projects that make no sense like studys of butterflys in australia or smth look it up, besides wars would have continued everywhere because they were mostly funded by the united states just look at how much money the un gives to ukrain compared to the us or what just happened a few days ago with the missils and the 245 million dollars on military resources or the fact that many analysts suggested that if the taiwan china conflict started and us was still funding these current wars they say that in least than a week they would have depleted their military resources wich is scary because if the united states doesnt have competence over other countrys then freedom is at stake
first thanks for the welcoming very kind of you, secondly venezuela is just one of many more examples a great one is argentina or brazil and how price controls affected incentive for real producers or the private sector, basically making food much more expensive beyond the price control because of the lack of it, so basically there wasnt anymore because price controls didnt make them conveniant to make or sell or even consider to entrepeneur on
no way, she wanted to exert the same methods that were applied in latin american economys, such as price controls, and really high taxes, plus their terrible use.
people relate gender to things wich makes no sense, and is the bare core root of the problem, we should think of each other as individuals that commit actions or have taste these things shouldnt define how much of a man we are or a woman, if you are a man you are a man, if you are a woman you are a woman, no habit will make you less or more of the other, sure it migt relate you to a gender more but that is an outer perspective that is marked by society you should just care of living your life without paying attention to others judgement everyone is both femenine and masculine yet they dont have different size genitalia of both teams we are what we are regardless of how we are, i think it is a mental health problem one that bases itself off from peoples expectation and our counscious or uncoscious desire to meet these expectations, these can be about anything it just happens to be gender in this case
to resume what i mean in a few words, capitalism=investment system=market both are unevitable, i think i may have made myself way too long, and human economys work more like symbiosis where there is codependence like bees and flowers, consumers and companys.
hi, may i know wich point lacks any sense? perhaps i missed something on my explanation
dprek i think you got it wrong you have to debate on the earth being flat not being round
some people lie to themselves to support their world view and when they find truth they just look away or avoid thinking about it, it makes sense
JHAJHSJAHSJAHJSAHJAH sounds fair i did the same with capitalism but i need to explain more stuff so i get the win
yo but this is too easy for you wtf JHAJHAJHJHA
its true but both are hypothetical right now in a way
thanks man
great then lets go, btw its my first time in this site and i dont really know how to publish arguments so i will start doing most of it here, hope its ok, and well, my first argument starts like this, Capitalism is merely a natural concept that exists way before mankind itself, it began with the first ever cellular form, how is economy related to evolution?? well capitalism beyond economy and trade its the use of resources, and the capitalist concept is the creation of wealth from current wealth, example, you have a cow and use its milk to buy a new cow, now you make twice as much milk and so on, more cows more milk, its a basic example, having this concept explained, we understand that capitalism as it is, it was not made by humanity wich makes it perfect on its own way, now how do the market laws apply?? well these are also natural, for example, your brain on learning something new, the demand of information causes the resources to move from one place to the other, you learned something before but now you dont care so you forget but you still learn this new thing, its an example of a market logic in how brain cells work, an ecosystem is another example somewhere where different entitys work each separately yet still influence each other, whilst comepeting in their own markets, you also have the inmune system itself and how different cells or supply attending the need or demand from the patogen, see how the inmune system "innovates" or find its own way to handle the situation by adapting itself to the "needs" of the the patogen or what the body requires to be healthy, this is shown in how everything in nature is also a competition, market logic applys to all little and big living things everywhere because all of these act out of bare evolution from capitalism the creation of a good from a current one, having this said, a society a healthy one should let everyone be and live as they should while making sure the classical principal of liberalism wich is the principle of no aggression is respected, this comes with enhancing liberty on both a social and economical level, meaning no one is meant to do anything they dont want to and no one can hurt or violate a freedom from another person, i can explain as well how society freedom works, through the market logic,
yeah as long as it is a system where freedom of choice is respected, because this is what truly puts resources where they "belong" or should be at wich is where the demand asks it to be
i mean by ultimate as the best or the only functional one, the model society i mean to explain is one that is free both economically socially and politically, also one that does have a state a small one that only makes sure that individuals are able to be competent yet not to live for and by the state.
you are right it is vague, what i mean to say is that the use of pure free markets and the respect of owners free will to do as they must is the most optimal way to get a healthy growing thriving society, and i mean this not just in economics but also in politics and even to a social level
well capitalism is a natural concept that stands to all living things to even a cellular level, the concept itself is to create a new good from an current one, the constant creation of new wealth it is, this is something that applys to even the wildest species, even non intelligent life, wich is also why the free market system is something that is also natural and non created by humans yet still unnevitably used because as i said capitalism and also market logic apply to human nature i can show more examples why both macro and micro level
the thing is that inflation would have kept raising because of government deficit for financing wars and inmigrant plans and all this unnecessesary stuff for americans and also harmful for the world politically and economically as i said so inflation and global tension
so what are we thinking??
my point is rich people will be fine wether they get richer or not if inflation goes nuts if there is a civil war if poberty grows up to 99% they will suffer too obviously, but they will be fine anyways, believe it or not having free big corporations is better for the people than it is for the rich
best case scenario you are sweden and you do actually do something with those taxes, great then all cool, free economy, growth no problem, a lot of public stuff, but still kamala isnt that she was the vice president the last four years and honestly didnt do a difference at least not for good
sure it might be true im not saying i disagree, but it is still a fact that growth will most definitely see itself down, and besides kamala what really would have done with all those taxes really?? would have been the cost of that growth been worth idk financing illegal inmigrants or even paying a transition surgery to an inmate??
ok we might disagree but it is a fact that higher taxes on companys that are big not just because they are big they are big because people use them, if these suffer regulations higher taxes then growth plummets, by having to raise prices to match the costs required of sustaining an enterprise, wich leads to less consumption and less growth, basically these companys dont enhance themselves as they should and could and also dont create more employment, we could disagree on wether rich people deserve to pay more or less but it is a fact that this heavily affects NORMAL americans more than rich people, rich people will be rich wether they grow or not but NORMAL people will see themselves having to struggle with buying food, clothes, and finding a job because sure they will have more money because they have less taxes but inflation will still increase for all ive mentioned before on government deficit and the obvious response of big corporations to higher taxes, capitalism is a game of adaptation they raise prices people buy less, there is less growth enterprises leave no one to serve and if there is they arent as efficient, it happened in latin america.
besides these big enterprises invest in smaller businesses and other projects with foreign companys wich also enhances entrepeneuring and overall aconomy
see the prices system works its own way and the government only changes corrupts it by taxes or price controls this leads to a domino effect that just takes societys down on a growth indicator
well as you know the true producers and creators of wealth in the world are that one percent they push mankind forward by finding new ways to please people in a cheaper way both for them and their workers, creating more employment and overall enhancing the economy by increasing consumption and keeping reasonable prices if you put high taxes on big corporations that are big because people use them then they will see themselves forced to raise prices wich overall leads to less growth less employment and major discontent of the people like right now.
yeah sure but still higher taxes and using those to fund wars is clearly not good for both the us and the world not economically nor politically
also i agree the country had a great reliance on oil wich made it unstable but still expropiation played a huge role in the crisis, either way one of the biggest reason why kamala would have been way worse is the raise of taxes the insane money printing and bad funding of the government in general the US as it is already has a huge deficit and recently there has been a lot of stuff that the government made to fund different projects that make no sense like studys of butterflys in australia or smth look it up, besides wars would have continued everywhere because they were mostly funded by the united states just look at how much money the un gives to ukrain compared to the us or what just happened a few days ago with the missils and the 245 million dollars on military resources or the fact that many analysts suggested that if the taiwan china conflict started and us was still funding these current wars they say that in least than a week they would have depleted their military resources wich is scary because if the united states doesnt have competence over other countrys then freedom is at stake
first thanks for the welcoming very kind of you, secondly venezuela is just one of many more examples a great one is argentina or brazil and how price controls affected incentive for real producers or the private sector, basically making food much more expensive beyond the price control because of the lack of it, so basically there wasnt anymore because price controls didnt make them conveniant to make or sell or even consider to entrepeneur on
no way, she wanted to exert the same methods that were applied in latin american economys, such as price controls, and really high taxes, plus their terrible use.
people relate gender to things wich makes no sense, and is the bare core root of the problem, we should think of each other as individuals that commit actions or have taste these things shouldnt define how much of a man we are or a woman, if you are a man you are a man, if you are a woman you are a woman, no habit will make you less or more of the other, sure it migt relate you to a gender more but that is an outer perspective that is marked by society you should just care of living your life without paying attention to others judgement everyone is both femenine and masculine yet they dont have different size genitalia of both teams we are what we are regardless of how we are, i think it is a mental health problem one that bases itself off from peoples expectation and our counscious or uncoscious desire to meet these expectations, these can be about anything it just happens to be gender in this case
i think there are exceptions like rape or incest perhaps risks of the pregnancy itself for the mother, but in general abortion to a degree is murder