Readings the first argument, it seems the debate title should be changed. My understanding is high school= 8th grade upwards in usa, so surely by saying LGBTQIA’ is harmful until 6th grade, either means it isn’t harmful after this age (which is high school) and Con concedes or the first point is invalid. Seems like the title or the first argument don’t correlate
My bad, I think it’s article 38, not 36 I misread the article I was reading from. From what I’m reading, the quote you’ve got is from article 58, but article 38 says “Article 38, third paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provides that protected persons “shall be allowed to practise their religion and to receive spiritual assistance from ministers of their faith.” And also article 27 says this ‘Article 27, first paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provides: “Protected persons are entitled, in all circumstances, to respect for … their religious convictions and practices” and I mean these laws aren’t that specific to cases, so in a court it probably would be down to the subjective opinion of a judge. But this international law stuff is really complicated and out of my full understanding to be honest, I think basically that under most international law and moral principles America committed truly evil breaches, but there’s complications in how far America can be held accountable, in a legal sense, and if they actually have to adhere, especially in the Iraq case, to the accepted international rules. But I’m kinda glad we didn’t go into this area in massive detail in the debate, because I’m kinda out of my depth with some of this international law stuff
Article 36 says ‘shall be allowed to practise their religion’ I’d constitute forcing someone, like a Muslim to eat pork, Hindu to eat beef or a Jew to eat shellfish, to be prohibiting them to participate, follow and practice their religion in a very large way, as these dietary principles are very important to those religions. I’m not 100% sure about Geneva convention law, I assumed that because both the USA and Iraq had signed original copy, that contains this article, that they’d have to follow it, but I guess I could be wrong on that front.
The comments aren’t a place for debate, but I’d like to point out that US law doesn’t mean shit, because they’re not in the US. They’re not entitled to any US laws you’re right, because they’re not American or in America. Just like I’m not entitled to US laws etc. however they are entitled to their basic human freedoms, as outlined by article 36 of the Geneva Convention in 1949 which the US has signed and ratified. It’s not just a dick move, it is breaking a treaty that the US signed and ratified. Personally I don’t think any of the comments me or Con say should be taken in consideration of the results, both of us should have been clearer with our points in the actual debate. But, off-the record discussion on the topic is welcome
The US bombing of significant and important mosques as well as making Iraqi POW’s eat what US soldiers ate, which included pork which is against the Islamic religion. Either POW’s ate pork or starved, this constitutes a breach of religious freedom in the Iraq War. This isn’t all cases, but it happened.
Bro get out of this comments unless you’ve got something relevant to say, instead of your unwarranted personal insults. You’re just being annoying and rude for the sake of it, if you’ve got an issue with an individual, message them privately instead of wasting people’s time publicly commenting.
I’m on holiday rn in bali for 10 more days, so I probably won’t do any debates until I’m back home, but after that I’d be up for one because this one wasn’t particularly interesting in its substance lol. If you want you can set out the rules and voting for it because I’m new to this and I’m not sure what’s the best rules and stuff for this. Thanks tho
What’s the set definition for god in this debate?
Readings the first argument, it seems the debate title should be changed. My understanding is high school= 8th grade upwards in usa, so surely by saying LGBTQIA’ is harmful until 6th grade, either means it isn’t harmful after this age (which is high school) and Con concedes or the first point is invalid. Seems like the title or the first argument don’t correlate
Can I represent agnosticism or does it have to be Islam or Judaism etc. Also what’s the aim, is it to prove which is more likely?
What id this trying to debate? The overall feasibility? Morality? Coolness? Seems pretty broad
My bad, I think it’s article 38, not 36 I misread the article I was reading from. From what I’m reading, the quote you’ve got is from article 58, but article 38 says “Article 38, third paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provides that protected persons “shall be allowed to practise their religion and to receive spiritual assistance from ministers of their faith.” And also article 27 says this ‘Article 27, first paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provides: “Protected persons are entitled, in all circumstances, to respect for … their religious convictions and practices” and I mean these laws aren’t that specific to cases, so in a court it probably would be down to the subjective opinion of a judge. But this international law stuff is really complicated and out of my full understanding to be honest, I think basically that under most international law and moral principles America committed truly evil breaches, but there’s complications in how far America can be held accountable, in a legal sense, and if they actually have to adhere, especially in the Iraq case, to the accepted international rules. But I’m kinda glad we didn’t go into this area in massive detail in the debate, because I’m kinda out of my depth with some of this international law stuff
Article 36 says ‘shall be allowed to practise their religion’ I’d constitute forcing someone, like a Muslim to eat pork, Hindu to eat beef or a Jew to eat shellfish, to be prohibiting them to participate, follow and practice their religion in a very large way, as these dietary principles are very important to those religions. I’m not 100% sure about Geneva convention law, I assumed that because both the USA and Iraq had signed original copy, that contains this article, that they’d have to follow it, but I guess I could be wrong on that front.
The comments aren’t a place for debate, but I’d like to point out that US law doesn’t mean shit, because they’re not in the US. They’re not entitled to any US laws you’re right, because they’re not American or in America. Just like I’m not entitled to US laws etc. however they are entitled to their basic human freedoms, as outlined by article 36 of the Geneva Convention in 1949 which the US has signed and ratified. It’s not just a dick move, it is breaking a treaty that the US signed and ratified. Personally I don’t think any of the comments me or Con say should be taken in consideration of the results, both of us should have been clearer with our points in the actual debate. But, off-the record discussion on the topic is welcome
The US bombing of significant and important mosques as well as making Iraqi POW’s eat what US soldiers ate, which included pork which is against the Islamic religion. Either POW’s ate pork or starved, this constitutes a breach of religious freedom in the Iraq War. This isn’t all cases, but it happened.
Is this a debate on which is better? Or which is more rational and believable? Or which is more moral? It doesn’t give much of a description
Bro get out of this comments unless you’ve got something relevant to say, instead of your unwarranted personal insults. You’re just being annoying and rude for the sake of it, if you’ve got an issue with an individual, message them privately instead of wasting people’s time publicly commenting.
What did I do?
Clearly you should vote Con when this is done then! Lol
👍, thanks for voting too man, much appreciated
I’m on holiday rn in bali for 10 more days, so I probably won’t do any debates until I’m back home, but after that I’d be up for one because this one wasn’t particularly interesting in its substance lol. If you want you can set out the rules and voting for it because I’m new to this and I’m not sure what’s the best rules and stuff for this. Thanks tho
Thanks for that one mate👍