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I am changing accounts (got a new e-mail)
I will change my account to The_Meliorist, since I got a new e-mail. this means that the moderators can delete this one. 
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@Tradesecret
Thank you for your post.

Interestingly, the author of the video does not pick up on the vav consecutive used in Hebrew language. It is a language cue much like his toredeth - generations. It is a cue which enables readers to identify a particular genre. The genre it identifies is historical narrative. 

I'm am honestly not an expert on the Hebrew language or hermeneutics. I try my best to watch or read what I can that may further educate me on the subject. For example, unlike you, I don't own any books on the subject. 

Thank you for your response and I will think about the video, and how it may or may not be an actual problem for the Young Earth view.


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That Evidence That the Earth is Young
Thank you for your post

your post is a little hard to respond to, since it doesn't make any exact claims (this is not necessarily  a bad thing). I will say that yes, many things are less then 10,000 years old on this earth, however, those things could never be billions of years old. for example, no form of life could even live to 5,000 years old, (even trees), so this is to be expected.

So this means that we must look to things that can older in age. We can get into the evidence if you want.

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@RoderickSpode
thank you for your post.

"are you basing your belief on the age of the earth on scripture, or scientific consensus?"
If I can answer a question with question, does the Bible say what the age of the Earth is?

If the Bible doesn't say the age of the Earth, it would make it kind of hard to make my belief on the subject based on the Bible. Some Christians say it indirectly does, and we can talk about that if you want to. I personal see no reason why we can't follow the scientific evidence were it leads on this one. humor me as you will. The Bible doesn't say the best way to treat lung cancer. So, where does the Christian get there belief on how to treat lung cancer? well science of course. So similarly, if the Bible is mute on the subject of the Earth's age, therefore we can, and should, follow the scientific evidence were it leads.

can to be more accurate, I get my beliefs from the  scientific evidence not the scientific consensus. In  science, we don't settle debates based on who has the longer list of scientists, but rather what the evidence says. 
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here are some biblical problems with young-earth creationism:


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@Theistic_Evolutionist
agreed 
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@BrotherDThomas
thank you for your post. 

I will simply ignore your Ad hominem attacks on my fellow Christians. 

Also, you still have no scientific evidence, what a shame. this is probably the same reason you think the earth is flat [1]

"my serial killing Jesus' inspired words within the Bible show that the earth IS BETWEEN 6 to 8 thousands of years old, period."

can you quote some bible verses saying that the earth is between 6-8 thousand years old? thank you.

"How can you be a pseudo-christian and a Melioist at the same time, whereas you are expected to follow the Bible to the letter, huh?"

You seem to believe that  Meliorism and Christianity are contradictory. Well, this is not the case. Meliorism  is the belief that the world can be made better through human effort [2]. this is complementary  to the bible, for Hebrews 13:16 says "And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased." and Matthew 5:16 says:  "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven." [3]. as you can see, it pleases God when Christians make the world better. 


Also, here are ten reasons that young-earth creationism is unbiblical:



the first versus is number 6, and the second number 15:

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@BrotherDThomas
Thank you for your post

First things first. You have not brought any scientific evidence for a young Earth, and you are without sources. I ask you bring sources and scientific evidence that shows that the earth is less ten 10,000 years old. 

Also I would like to point out that calling ethang5 and Tradesecret a "Bible ignorant duo" is extremely disrespectful. I have seen both of them talk on the bible, and I assure you, they are quite knowledgeable on the subject.

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@Amoranemix
thank you for the link
Since combing through the entirety of KentHovindOFFICIAL (which has more then 1,000 videos) would take literally months,  I am hoping you will bring a specific argument, which we can talk about in this forum. 
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A lot of Young Earth Creationists claim that there is loads of scientific evidence that the Earth is less then 10,000 years old.
Well... bring it
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@dustryder
Firstly, I'm a Christian (and an old-earth creationist). If you want to see why Young-earth creationism is unbiblical I suggest  going to this video here: 

Secondly, when I wanted evidence it was implied that you would give scientific evidence.
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A lot of young-earth creationists claim that there is loads of evidence that the earth is less then 10,000 years old.

so... bring it.
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The Museum of Alien Life
here's a cool video about what alien life could be like:

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I Used to be a Young-Earth Creationist AMA
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@Polytheist-Witch
Yes I am
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@ronjs
I literally could not find anything like that on cross-examined. Just provide sources man.
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@Dr.Franklin
I know, but I just thought I would share one.
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@ronjs
can you give me an exact link? it's not my job to do research to support your claims.
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@ronjs
how so?
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"All are quite intelligent. Yet,  are part of the culture they have been raised in. "

do you mean by this?  are you saying that the "culture" has more effect on them then the evidence? do you define "culture" by the scientific conscience? 
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@SkepticalOne
The scientific evidence for evolution, the big bang, and the age of the Earth being 4.6 billion years old. I will not go into detail about that here. 
Also, There are many biblical problems for a young earth you can find here:

My views have been mainly influenced by people like  Francis Collins (an American physician who lead the Human Genome Project), William Lain Craig (a Christian philosopher and Theologian), and Cameron Bertuzzi (maker of the Capturing Christianity YouTube channel).
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I Used to be a Young-Earth Creationist AMA
I'll admit it, I used to think the earth is 6,000 years old, that evolution was fake invention of atheist scientists, and that the Big Bang never happened. This is mostly because I was raised by Young-Earth Creationists, my parents have at least 7 Ken Ham books in Their house. But Also partly because I wasn't exposed to other forms of Christianity.  

I'm no longer a Young-Earth Creationist, and I accept evolution, the Big Bang, and the Age of the Earth (roughly 4.6 billion years).

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Antitheist AMA
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@Theweakeredge
I know that this is a cliché to ask. But if the Christian God existed, (hypothetically, not saying he does) would you worship him?
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In the Future, it Would Be Beneficial for Humans to Colonize Mars.
I am planning on making a debate on this website in a couple of days by the same title, just want to get a feel on what you guys think on the subject.
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