Shila

Polytheist-Witch: Well the title bitch, should basically imply I'm a bitch. I'm too old to menstrate but I appreciate you feeling I have a young energy. So if you're looking for a title that doesn't have to do with me being on a period I'd go for cunt. I certainly pride myself on that one.

Polytheist-Witch: Repeating something stupid doesn't change it to smart.

Evidence for God

Polytheist-Witch: The fact that you're stupid doesn't make it a title. Nice try though.

Polytheist-Witch: Seems that way, yes. 

One of the duties of the state is to protect religious freedom.  Religious freedom isn't only applicable to Christianity- it applies to all religious views. The personal views of government officials are irrelevant to their governmental obligation. Using the power of the people to advance their religion would be a betrayal of the trust the governed places in them.

Stephen wrote: Well it is there written in black on white. Jesus returned as he went a, full  grown human . His wounds were flesh wounds. He says he is flesh and bone and clearly states that he cannot be a spirit because he is flesh and bone.

Stephen wrote: But what about the bible? Should it be condemn The Bible To The Skip?

Jacob strove both for and against God when creating Jewry.

All of us should seek a master, but only to be able to do better.

Remember that Jesus takes over when he gets to heaven.

So should we all wish to.

Regards

DL

Polytheist-Witch:

Polytheist-Witch: April 30/ May 1 has all kinds of goodies going. Black New Moon, Partial Solar Eclipse and Wonnenacht (also known as Walpurgisnacht elsewhere) where Holda leads the Wild Hunt and grinds the souls on her mill to break up the parts and move them on. And it's the first night of the twelve-night/twelve-day observance where Dunner (Thor) fights the Frost Giants so planting can begin on Mother's Day.  Lots of ritual work. Very exciting.

No I just said that so dumbass is like you would reply

Separation protects both religion from state and state from religion.

Polytheist-Witch: It's not a title,  you freaking idiot.

There is nothing definitive there; it all seems to be speculation based on personal interpretation.

 

For example, you say “Jesus never said his mission was finished. Which explains why he promised to return.” This is an argument from ignorance. Failing to say his mission is finished puts you in a position of not knowing, it doesn’t equate to him promising to return.

 

It is one of the reasons I don’t consider Jesus to be a great teacher, if your teachings are open to interpretation then you have failed to accurately convey your message.

Polytheist-Witch: April 30/ May 1 has all kinds of goodies going. Black New Moon, Partial Solar Eclipse and Wonnenacht (also known as Walpurgisnacht elsewhere) where Holda leads the Wild Hunt and grinds the souls on her mill to break up the parts and move them on. And it's the first night of the twelve-night/twelve-day observance where Dunner (Thor) fights the Frost Giants so planting can begin on Mother's Day.  Lots of ritual work. Very exciting. 

why do feminists defend islam and not christianity

Polytheist-Witch: The posts that are here are what happens when male pigs try to describe a practice they've taken no effort in doing any research on. And what information they have gathered is from TV shows like Charmed or movies like The Craft. Morons.

Just curious how the double standard runs exactly, is it that since the parents mutilate the child via a surgeon, it's okay to remove the beautiful foreskin the way that God made it?

This applies to you oddball American Catholics and Protestants who circumcise despite it being a Jewish and Islamic tradition, same with some African Christians and even tribal Pagans that took on the tradition.

OK. So what is your answer? 

Christian nationalism is as American as apple pie.

What is nationalism? Defined broadly, it's the political expression of identitarianism. We have black identitarianism, an umbrella POC identitarianism, a slowly growing white identitarianism, feminism, the LGBTQ movement, militant atheist political activism to shut down any whiff of a small town Christmas pageant or football game prayers, and so on. 

Then there are a million other niche groups that haven't quite risen to that level: people who call themselves "survivors" of mainstream psychiatry. People who identify with the label of not being able to get a girlfriend. Eunuchs. Flat earthers. Anti-vaxxers. All of it's but a continuation of Alexis de Tocqueville's description of America as a place of endless voluntary associations.

I would be shocked if Christians weren't a part of this process. Especially given that Christians have some of the most noteworthy collective gripes and grievances in the country.

I don’t know where you are coming from with his “needing more wine” it seems like an attempt at a metaphor and a rather obscure one so at that. I don’t think there is a Biblical reference to give it any substance.

 

Jesus said “it is finished” so hardly a promise to return, quite the opposite.

 

The fact is he didn’t fulfil the proficiency in Isaiah 2:4 and it is one fundamental to him being accepted as the Jewish messiah, to say he intends to do it when he returns at some unspecified time is something of a cop out, I doubt the Jews would accept that and I don’t blame them.

NO!!!. read what this supposed son of god says himself, FFS!. 

The disciples believed they were seeing a ghost/ spirit." 37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit".

 But Jesus says touch my wounds and have a good poke around and see > "it is I myself for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have".Luke 24:36- 39

Read this thread and  see what the dopey apologist invent in their attempts to get over this little dilemma.

As I have already written above:

Stephen wrote;  when [Christians are]  pressed on such it appears that these very same people will resort to the default that one must understand Greek or Hebrew to even begin to understand a Bible that is written in English! But by saying so they do not seem to understand that they have, in just a few words, rendered the Bible written in English redundant, pointless and unreliable as any kind of “witness” source to the life and times of the Christ.#1

My point is that when Christians are pressed on matters biblical and posed awkward and or embarrassing questions about what is written in the bible, their default is along the lines of  " your question is redundant because you can't read or understand the context of ancient Greek of ancient Hebrew".  And by using this default they don't seem to realise that they, themselves, have just condemned all bibles written in English to the trash pile. Hence my question:

May They Just As Well Condemn The Bible To The Skip?

So is your answer yes or no?

Curious facts.

Interestingly some of the first documented Witches on broomsticks were Christians, deemed heretics by the Roman Catholic Church.

And the first trial and torture of a witch on a broomstick, was that of a male priest.

And for sure sticks between legs is an ancient fertility ritual, for obvious reasons.

Nothing has changed???

Where are the animal sacrifices of the Old Covenant? Where is the Levitical priesthood? Where is the blood atonement for the sins of Israel? Where is the temple and temple worship? Where are the feast days sacrifices? Remember that Jesus said not ONE iota of the law or prophets will change/be abolished until ALL is accomplished. So, where are these things? Why are they not being followed today? Address Matthew 5:17-18.

No, not the same. We are born again. It is now God, in Christ Jesus, who has done the work, not me. My faith rests upon Jesus and what He accomplished, not on anything I can or have done. And the Holy Spirit changes my disposition towards God. God creates in me a new spirit, a spirit of renewal and trust in Him. What I could not do on my own I see as accomplished in Christ Jesus.  

Agree. Judeo-Christian is code for Christian.

Judaism and Christianity holds conflicting views on Jesus. This proposed definition of Judeo-Christian is incoherent. Additionally, you've provided no position on Christian Nationalism. 

Is the Bible written in English worth the paper it is written on? I personally wouldn’t want to see this ancient work destroyed.

I think it is well known of me by now that on the surface I find the Bible (New Testament in particular) to be a book of contradictory, ambiguous, anomalous, vague, enigmatic and problematic half stories surrounding a man that believed or was led to believe he was a rightful king and heir to the throne of Jerusalem and the power struggle that he had to endure in the times of ancient Palestine under Roman occupation and between the many other factions and sects that existed at the time. And not to be taken literally at all times. i.e. a man didn’t rises from a physical death to be alive again after being physically dead for three days.

Others think to the contrary. For instance, there are those that I have met that believe the Bible to be clear and concise in its presentation and self evidently true and without any ambiguity whatsoever in the way it has come down to us. Until of course they are posed a few simple questions which usually arise not just frequently from the Bible but just as frequent from their own commentary, and when pressed on such it appears that these very same people will resort to the default that one must understand Greek or Hebrew to even begin to understand a Bible that is written in English! But by saying so they do not seem to understand that they have, in just a few words, rendered the Bible written in English redundant, pointless and unreliable as any kind of “witness” source to the life and times of the Christ.

So is there at all any point to reading, never mind studying the Bible written in English? A Bible that those who have said that is clear and concise but suddenly insist that the Bible is fathomable and understandable only when one is tutored, trained and learned in the ancient Greek or Hebrew languages?

Perhaps the New Testament was written to include the fulfilment of those prophesies simply to establish the claim that Jesus was the Messiah.

 

To say he fulfilled the Messianic prophesies, what about this one:

 

Isaiah 2:4

He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.

 

Looking at the history of Christianity quite the opposite was achieved.

So often when I talk with Christians about the Trinity they use analogies which more align with the heretical views of modalism, partialism, or tritheism. When they don't offer those analogies they tend to either use such vague terminology that it isn't clear what they are talking about, simply give a link to a source that will 'explain' it for them, or simply admit that they don't understand it either.

Now, it could be that the issue is that I tend to get into these types of discussions in more casual forums with people that do not often engage in debate, and so hopefully, this being a debate-centric website, that won't be an issue here. I'm not saying that it cannot be done, but simply that I have not yet seen it done.

To those that believe the classical idea of Trinity (upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Shield-Trinity-Scutum-Fidei-English.svg/1138px-Shield-Trinity-Scutum-Fidei-English.svg.png), can you explain it in a way that is easily understandable and not heretical?

What Will Jesus Look like When he Comes Back?

Will he be black Jesus, asian Jesus, the OG Jesus (What a Middle Eastern Jewish person would look like 2000 years ago), orrr Aryan Jesus?

I mean that Jews have always put man above God, in recognition that all the notions about any god are man made.

Jesus even asks in scriptures, have ye forgotten that ye are gods?

I do not think any Jew has ever been fool enough as to believe in talking serpents and donkeys.

Why Christianity is a failure and Christians in denial?

Jesus never claimed he was God. He said he was sent by God to save the Jews. But we know that failed. Jesus said he would return 2000 years ago. But that never happened.

During his life on earth Jesus was called a liar and a lunatic.

1. Liar.

John 10:33 "We are not stoning You for any good work," said the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God."

2. Lunatic.0

Mark 3:21 When His family heard about this, they went out to take custody of Him, saying, "He is out of His mind."

John 10:20 Many of them said, "He is demon-possessed and insane. Why would you listen to Him?"

3. They demanded Jesus be crucified.

Luke 23:21 but they kept shouting, "Crucify Him! Crucify Him!"

4. The Romans crucified Jesus.

John 19:23 When they crucified him, the Roman soldiers took his clothes and divided them up four ways, to each soldier a fourth. But his robe was seamless, a single piece of weaving ...

5. Even Jesus blamed God for forsaking him on the cross.

Matthew 27:46 About the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?"

6. Jesus's call to his disciples failed too. No one followed Jesus or joined him in his crucifixion. Therefore no one was saved or worthy of Jesus.

Matthew 10:38 and anyone who does not take up his cross and follow Me is not worthy of Me.

7. His discipiles all tried to save their own lives and did not want to lose it for Jesus.

Luke 17:33 Whoever tries to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life will preserve it.

8. The one time offer for salvation ended with Jesus. Jesus has not returned to make a similar offer to future generations. But God has sent another prophet Mohammad in his place.

9. Jesus spoke to his generation. Repeating his words does not carry the same promise. His promise ended on the cross.

Matthew 27:46 About the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?"

10. Even the Pope declared the cross was a failure of God.

Pope Francis said during his whirlwind U.S. tour. "And if at times <ins><strong>OUR EFFORTS AND WORKS SEEM TO FAIL AND PRODUCE NO FRUIT, we need to REMEMBERthat <ins><strong>WE ARE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS ... and <ins><strong>His LIFE</strong></ins>, humanly speaking, ENDED IN FAILURE, THE FAILURE OF THE CROSS"

When you don"t understand something, when desperation hits you then look at the <ins><strong>CROSS. THAT IS THE GREAT FAILURE OF GOD, THAT IS THE DESTRUCTION OF GOD, AND IT'S A CHALLENGE TO OUR FAITH

If there is no resurrection of Jesus then Jesus did not die for anyone's sins on the cross. Dattaswami said Jesus was saved by his disciples and smuggled to India where he lived to 85 years in Kashmir.

Dattaswami believes Jesus's resurrection never happened.

Reply: Bhavishya purana"

Dattaswami wrote: When Jesus was crucified based on simple emotional slogans. His death was not justified and therefore He rose and walked out. When the soldier was leaving finally, He pierced the stomach of Jesus with his weapon. Then blood came out. Blood will not come out from dead body. Jesus was alive and He was brought down by His disciples. Then He was kept in the cave. He knew the protection of His life. He walked into India and met the king Salivahana and talked with him. His conversation was recorded in "Bhavishaya Purana" of Vyasa. This scripture speaks about the future. Vyasa wrote this long back.

The verse in scripture is "Esa Putram Cha Mam Viddhi, Kumari Garbha Sambhavam, Mlechcha Dharmasya Vaktaram"', Which means "I am the son of the father of heaven. I was born to unmarried girl. I preached spirituality to Muslims. ' Thus spoke Jesus to Salivahana. He stayed in India till He attained the age of eighty-five years and died in Kashmir. You can find the buried tomb of Jesus there even today. On the tomb it is written "Jesus" in Hebrew language.

Jesus disappeared from home at the age of 16 years. He returned at the age of 30 years. He was crucified in 32nd year. From 16th year He was in Himalayas in the association of several sages. He was a good Sanskrit scholar. He studied all the Hindu philosophy and this is the reason why the Christian and Hindu philosophies are almost similar in concepts.

Harikrish biblical scholar and spiritual leader.

Guided by the Holy Spirit the first church which is the Roman Catholic Church was built. Today we have 30, 000 denominations of Christians. Most of them are in opposition to the teachings of the Catholic Church which was inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Christians say Jesus was without sin and therefore the perfect human sacrifice. But scriptures paint a very different story.

Scriptures show Jesus broke all the 10 commandments. These ironies exist in the Bible.

The 10 commandments say.

1. You shall have no other gods before Me.

2. You shall not make idols.

3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.

4. Remember the Sabbath day, To keep it holy.

5. Honour your father and your mother.

6. You shall not murder.

7. You shall not commit adultery.

8. You shall not steal.

9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

10. You shall not covet.

Jesus broke many of the commandments, If not all!

1. You shall have no other gods before Me.

Jesus tried to claim he was God.

John 10:33 "We are not stoning You for any good work, " said the Jews, "but for blasphemy, Because You, Who are a man, Declare Yourself to be God. "

2. You shall not make idols.

Jesus made a covenant with a cup.

Luke 22:20 In the same way, After supper He took the cup, Saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, Which is poured out for you.

3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.

Jesus said every word he spoke came from God. Unless God too was as incoherent as Jesus. God in the OT never spoke in parables. His orders were clear and direct.

Luke 18:34 But the disciples did not understand any of these things. The meaning was hidden from them, And they did not comprehend what He was saying.

4. Remember the Sabbath day, To keep it holy.

Jesus broke the sabbath.

Pharisees accused Him of breaking the Sabbath (Matthew 12:10; Mark 3:2, John 9:14-16).

5. Honour your father and your mother.

Jesus tried to destroy the traditional family.

Matthew 10:35 For I have come to turn ""a man against his father, A daughter against her mother, A daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law"

6. You shall not murder.

Jesus murdered the truth.

Matthew 15:24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. "

Yet he spent his entire ministry condemning the very people he was sent to save.

7. You shall not commit adultery.

Jesus was unfaithful to God and his disciples. He left them to die even though he was given all authority over heaven and earth.

Matthew 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.

8. You shall not steal.

Jesus stole the words of the prophets before him and claimed they pointed to him.

Luke 24:27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, He explained to them what was written in all the Scriptures about Himself.

Then Jesus took them through the writings of Moses and all the prophets, Explaining from all the Scriptures. . . And Jesus explained to them what was said about himself in all the Scriptures, Beginning with the books of Moses and the writings of all the prophets".

9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Jesus accused God of betraying and forsaking him on the cross.

Matthew 27:46 About the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, Lema sabachthani? " which means, "My God, My God, Why have you forsaken Me? "

10. You shall not covet.

Jesus suffered from a messiah complex and coveted the title messiah/Christ/Anointed one.

John 17:1 After Jesus said this, He looked toward heaven and prayed:

"Father, The hour has come. Glorify your Son, That your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, The only true God, And Jesus Christ, Whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, Glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

Scriptures tell us Jesus was tried, Convicted and crucified for his blasphemous lies and lunacy. . . . By the Romans. But the confusion continues.

Christians have waited for 2000 years for Jesus's return as he had promised without any success.

Preterists claims Christisns got it wrong, That Jesus returned in 70 AD.

Jehovah's Witnesses claim Jesus returned in 1874 or maybe 1914.

Others say Jesus could be the next thief who robs your house.

Revelation 16:15, Matthew 24:43, 1 Thessalonians 5:2, 1 Thessalonians 5:4, 2 Peter 3:10 ESV - ("Behold, I am coming like a thief in the night! )

Harikrish biblical scholar and spiritual leader.

No, I hadn’t forgotten that Jesus was a Jew and it was Paul who preached to the gentiles.

 

Regarding the Jews crucifying Jesus, crucifixion was a Roman method of execution, the Jews stoned people to death. From what we now know about Pontius Pilate, he was a cruel and ruthless individual and if Jesus was claiming to be the Messiah he would have had no hesitation in executing him for treason.

 

The reason the Jews didn’t covert to Christianity is that their faith was in Judaism, people’s religious faith tends to be strong and they tend not to change it, that  makes them difficult to convert.

Religious people: Is it your duty to convince others that your god is real, and if yes, WHY?

Honestly, both in DDO and in DART, a clog of debates such as "god exists" has been common enough that upon seeing it makes me snort.

Atheists can live their lives without, say, a god, and they would live fine. So would religious people praying to their god every day and living fine.

Why do these clashes exist and are as common as they are right now? Why are so many topics of debates and forums centred upon whether god exists or not?

Is it perhaps a duty in religion, or in some parts of a religious groups, to convince others that your god is real?

Christian nationalism holds that the US was founded on "Judeo-Christian" principles. "Judeo-Christian" seems nonsensical to begin with (Judaism is Judaism because it rejects Christianity and vice versa). Regardless, principles in the holy texts of Judaism and Christianity are so distinctly different than those embodied in America's founding documents that to suggest a link between them is to grossly misrepresent America.

Rather than waste time defending against arguments that might not be used, I leave it to proponents to define "Judeo-Christian principles" and provide arguments. Perhaps, each respondent may limit themselves to one or two of their best arguments, and let's do our best to keep it civil folks!

From the Scriptures and the actions and words of Jesus we can conclude Jesus was an Atheist.

Atheist definition: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

Jesus mocked the religious leaders of his time. He called them vipers and scums just like Atheist mocked the believers today.

Matthew 23:33 "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Jesus called his body a temple and drove people out of the real temple of worship.

John 2:19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."

Matthew 21:12 Jesus entered the temple courts and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.

Jesus claimed he had all authority over his alien Kingdom and earth. Yet he stood idly by as the Romans destroyed the holy city and sanctuary.

He believed anybody who ate his flesh and drank his blood would have eternal life. Who needs a God if Jewish meat is kosher and gets you eternal life in the hereafter.

John 6:54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.

Jesus said he was from an alien world.

John 8:23 I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.

John 18:36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place."

Jesus was despised like most atheists were during his time. He comforted them.

Isaiah 53:3 He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

Luke 6:22 Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man.

Jesus on the cross mocked the God of the Bible.

Matthew 27:46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" (which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?").

Were those last words of Jesus that motivated the Pope to declare Jesus was a failure of the cross?

Pope declared:"And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and not produce fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross."

Jesus called God his father throughout his life. By doing this he reduced God to a rapist and the cause of his illegitimate bastard status.

He even blamed God for his alcoholism like God willed him to drink the water he turned into alcohol.

Matthew 26:39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."

He was not directing people to God, he was forcing believers to chose between family or him.

Matthew 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

35 For I have come to turn ""a man against his father, a daughter against her mother,

a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law"

36 a man"s enemies will be the members of his own household."[c]

37 "Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me.

But if Jesus was an atheist as scriptures suggests who went against the religious leaders of his time by denouncing their beliefs. Then why do Christians worship an atheist Jesus?

By worshipping the atheist Jesus they believe they are turning him into God by their exhaltation.

If the Pope did not remind Christians that Jesus was a failure of the cross we would be swamped by Christians on DDO. But we find DDO is full of happy atheists who take delight in the fact that Jesus was an atheist......Harikrish.

If you define performing as just living my life, I could see that.

Polytheist-Witch:

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7634/post-links/338836

Already busted yourself, dumbass.

I can see that you are not related to Einstein.

Still, Einstein felt a deep bond with the Jewish people, one that transcended religion as well as the anti-Semitism that Nazis and their sympathizers leveled against him..

Despite his differences with fellow Jews in their practices and beliefs, Gimbel says, Einstein recognized that the relationship he had with Jewish friends was fundamentally different from the one he had with non-Jewish friends. He came to believe that whatever their beliefs, Jews shared common traits.

The first trait Einstein identified as common among Jews was an ability to face the world with a sense of awe and joy, whether the Jews in question were rapturous Hasidim or secular physicists.

The second trait Einstein identified was a sense of social justice. As he wrote in 1938, “The bond that has united the Jews for thousands of years and that unites them today is, above all, the democratic ideal of social justice coupled with the ideal of mutual aid and tolerance among all men.”

I am related to Einstein through the Koch family.

I think Stephen will get it.

Polytheist-Witch: There's nothing atheists love more than throwing sexual assault and rape at women they don't agree with it. Never ceases to disappoint me that it's the go-to for white male pigs. I'm surprised unlike the other atheists you didn't bring my kids into it. Seems atheism and the site is rather friendly to pedophilia jokes.

Polytheist-Witch: There's nothing atheists love more than throwing sexual assault and rape at women they don't agree with it. Never ceases to disappoint me that it's the go-to for white male pigs. I'm surprised unlike the other atheists you didn't bring my kids into it. Seems atheism and the site is rather friendly to pedophilia jokes.

Polytheist-Witch: The mods know it too and they simply allow him to keep spewing his hatred because you know it's directed at us.

The smartest Jew once wrote, "The word 'God' is for me nothing but the expression and product of human weaknesses; the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish," 

Does the Bible say if strippers are witches?

Well stated.

Miss Tradesecret, as a woman shown herewith: https://ibb.co/NFcsLgy that goes directly against Jesus’ words in 1 Timothy 2:12, whereas she is not to teach and in being SILENT towards men!

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE ONCE AGAIN: "While I hold no love for witches and I think in our century we have a false view of history and ACTUALLY  of what occurred back then. In other words, I think most of the history we talk about now is exaggerated and nonsense."  

You have to have no love for witches, even in you being a pseudo-christian woman!  This is because of the biblical FACT that you are to follow what the inspired words of Jesus state herewith:  “A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.” (Leviticus 20:27). 

"So Saul died for his breach of faith. He broke faith with the Lord in that he did not keep the command of the Lord, and also consulted a medium, seeking guidance. He did not seek guidance from the Lord. Therefore the Lord put him to death and turned the kingdom over to David the son of Jesse." (1 Chronicles 10:13-14)

YOUR REWRITE OF THE BIBLE QUOTE:   " ... which is that covenantal death is not to be automatically equated with a physical death."

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7337/post-links/319116

The passages above are PHYSICAL DEATHS in nature in stoning, their blood shall be upon them, and where Jesus killed Saul, and not your comical and wishful thinking of your laughable "covenantal deaths"  like you proffer to try and cover up Jesus' exact words of killing His creation, is it dear? NO, they are not!

Miss Tradesecret, your ungodly presence within this forum is excused for now.

NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN WOMAN THAT TRIES IN VAIN TO REWRITE THE SCRIPTURES LIKE MISS TRADESECRET WILL BE ...?