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@Mall
Female gay sex is nice, male gay sex is yuck. Duhh.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
If he was a stable genius, he would throw bitcoin somewhere in there.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
@Best.Korea
There is no solution but to take those who want to get out to other sharia nations and starve out anyone who remains.Well, there is another solution.
Let’s face it, Netanyahu wants Trump back in office just as much as Putin does.
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When Trump is back in office he’ll stop the genocide in Gaza, right after he deals with Putin.
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@zedvictor4
Is harassment a more grownup term? Regardless, kids use the internet.
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There can be a fine-line between trolling and bullying. Everyone has different boundaries depending on the topic.
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@Critical-Tim
Here is my speculative definition:History is (potentially) simply a propaganda made to inspire or strike pride in a nation's political, religious, or technological identity.
You’re only defining it from a weaponised/galvanised standpoint.
I’ll go for a low hanging fruit. What do you think of natural history?
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@FLRW
Well, Trump did keep a copy of Mein Kampf on his nightstand.
That’s one child I wouldn’t mind the IDF bombing.
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@Mall
In a way Duel Monsters (Yu-Gi-Oh) is a more mature version of Magic: The Gathering.
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@RationalMadman
Do people actually fear death, or do they fear everything negative surrounding it. The opposite is true for wanting to live. Also people can conclude “positive” reasons why dying is better off. Anyway, when there’s a major imbalance in negatives (sad) thoughts, that’s when people become suicidal.
Edit: I just realised the last part was a truism
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@zedvictor4
I was questioning the significance of our emergent consciousness as a necessary or unnecessarycomponent of the universal event.
Necessary in the sense it would be an alternate universe otherwise.
Are we an emergent property of the bigger picture and therefore significant as such?And by "we" I'm also referring to material development/evolution upon planet Earth, and not just the development of the intellectual blob.
Depends how you look at it.
Three possible levels of self-centredness, our own, the planet's, the universe's.Four...So what about ET?And thoughts of Quantum Entanglement. LOL.
If you’re going to make self-centredness abstract/non-colloquial, why is there only three or four levels by your standard? Why not atomic nuclei, stars, black holes, super massive black holes within the centre of galaxies, etc, etc, etc. I don’t know where you would draw the line within variations.
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@zedvictor4
Where do you think we are, within the Universal timeframe?
At face value I would say i’m in the present. I can only speak for myself. Can you elaborate?
Are we just an unnoticed and temporary accident?
Okay right here I have no idea what you’re talking about other than asking my opinion if aliens notice us and is human existence temporary.
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@zedvictor4
Sorry zed, but i’m not your guru.
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@Critical-Tim
This would be categorized as an accident approach to selflessness, and I don't agree that a person who accidentally acts in such a way that it benefits another is considered selfless. You could imagine a person who trades stocks accidentally makes the wrong decision and another benefits would not be considered selfless.
Do you consider respiration accidental? For the most part you don’t intend to breath, you just do. I would consider being selfless in the same vein.
Why do we think if not to deduce or induce knowledge? It sounds like you are suggesting we rely on non-logically derived conclusions, which I can't understand. I can't currently agree with the validity of emergentism in this debate as it touches upon the bounds of sound judgement and the supernatural.
You should talk to your subconscious, though some might consider that supernatural.
I cannot be of use to conclude or support ideas that cannot be tested and derived by evident knowledge known as evidence as it would otherwise be considered a philosophy or conviction rather than a rational deduction. At this point, I can agree that we disagree, and thank you for expressing your ideas enough that I can understand your position and reasoning.
Alright. Thank you too.
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@Critical-Tim
Are you saying that a person can act selflessly with the intention of enhancing their moral self-image, or that they can be selfless without intention (accidentally)?
I’m saying a person can act selflessly without a self-centred purpose of enhancing their moral self-image.
I agree that there is still more to understand about the world than just quantum mechanics but categorizing it as ineffable magic of sorts isn't the mindset of someone who intends to understand. As long as your position is rooted within evidence that others can know to be true, then I'm interested in understanding your thoughts in more detail; otherwise, I can't be sure whether your case is correct or not, making it of no practical utility, just a blind guess.
I was using a two pronged approach in pointing out your flawed reasoning in both thinking emergentism is religious and that deductive evidence is one of the only things you need to discuss.
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@Critical-Tim
Here is what I found, please clarify this is correctly representing your belief:The case made by emergent thought philosophy is that some aspects of reality, such as life, mind, and society, are not explainable by the simpler components that make them up, but rather arise from the complex interactions of those components. Emergent thought philosophy argues that these aspects of reality have their own properties, laws, and meanings that cannot be reduced to the lower levels of reality.To say that something is reducible means that it can be explained or derived from something else that is more fundamental or basic. For example, some philosophers think that mental states are reducible to brain states, meaning that they can be fully accounted for by the physical processes in the brain.To say that there are different levels of reality means that there are different kinds or categories of things that exist, each with their own properties and laws. For example, some philosophers distinguish between the level of quantum reality, where subatomic particles behave in strange ways, and the level of medium-sized objects, where we encounter things like tables and chairs.The question of whether something is reducible or not, and whether there are different levels of reality or not, is a major topic in philosophy. Some philosophers are reductionists, who think that everything can be reduced to the most basic level of reality, such as physics. Other philosophers are emergentists, who think that some things, such as life, mind, or society, are not reducible to the lower levels of reality, but rather emerge from the complex interactions of those lower levels
basically yes.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems to be a religious belief; I'm only looking to discuss logically induced and deducted evidence.
The world wouldn’t make much sense if all we had to go off was quantum mechanics. Hence why (like it or not) we look back at the bigger picture.
I don't mean to discredit supernatural believers, but the supernatural is unexplainable being defined as supernatural, so it is not worth the time trying to understand.
No one is talking about.. if I may.. spooky action at a distance. Sorry, I have to entertain myself somehow. It’s a twisted double entendre, I’m not trying to gaslight you.
Wanting to be selfless and being selfless are two different things.Simply telling me this teaches me nothing but that you disagree; would you precisely explain how they are different, and what makes this discernment valid?
One requires forethought, the other doesn’t.
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@zedvictor4
Thought is either a functional process or not.
That isn’t in dispute.
What do you think powers thought, if not a biological process?
Thought is an emergent property of biological processes. You’re acting as if thought is material. Do you think it is?
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@Critical-Tim
You wouldn't be able to focus on your thought process if the very neurons that are creating the thought can't be aware of themselves thus from the perspective of the person's mind thinking up a thought, thoughts would indeed always seem emergent; but this does not make them so.
Read some philosophy on emergent properties, and then come back to me. You have no idea what i’m talking about. If you don’t understand what I’m saying, don’t be afraid to ask.
If you asked the mother who sacrificed herself to save the child, could you have lived with yourself knowing you had done nothing…
That’s after the fact. I don't even have to read anything else in that regard. Read some cognitive science on rationalisation if you don’t want to deal with straight common sense.
It was already concisely said by zedvictor4, but I will try to elaborate. The idea that if we intend to do something only for someone else makes the act selfless is an illusion. The very idea that we want to be selfless to enhance our own moral self-image is indeed self-less in itself, making it impossible to act selfless by intention; and if we were to act selfless by accident, I hardly think anyone would consider it to be selfless.
Wanting to be selfless, and being selfless are two different things.
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@zedvictor4
Biological processes don’t focus. Thought is emergent.
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@zedvictor4
I could have written my op better. I’m going to refine it a bit more.
Depending on context, purpose entails intention. As Critical-Tims question is ‘Is anything done without a self-centered purpose?’ I think the essence of what i’m saying holds strong. In many spur-of-the-moment situations, intention isn’t focused on oneself. Deb brings up a few good examples of the stuff i’m talking about.
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@Critical-Tim
How do you get around the intention problem?
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@Critical-Tim
Is anything done without a self-centered purpose?
Yes. Purpose is intention. Our intention may not be self-centered when we do something selfless.
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@Best.Korea
I think pine-tree needles is one of the last steps in terms of diet when it comes to self-mummification (for buddhists).
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Far fetched, but…
The United Nations should create an organisation for the express purpose of increasing birthrates. Countries will have a choice to opt into various programs with oversight of course. From small scale social engineering/policy experiments, to wide scale implementation. All tailored for specific regions.
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@FLRW
It is calculated that more than 26,000 rape-caused pregnancies may have taken place in Texas alone. The findings were published on Wednesday in JAMA Internal Medicine.
Does anyone talk about the massive medical bills?
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All together:
- The universe is about 14 billion years old.
- The Known (observable) universe is 93 billion light years in diameter. We don’t actually know the true size of the universe. It could be meany magnitudes larger.
- Within the known universe it is estimated there are about 200-billion galaxies, several hundred-billion-trillion stars, and sextillions of planets. These numbers are on the conservative side in my opinion.
- Simple life on Earth has existed for over 3 billion years, modern humans have existed for about 300,000 years, Human civilisation has been around for about 6000 years, humans went from the steam engine to the rocket engine within 200 years.
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Is absence of proof, proof of absence?
It would be a fact of absence, assuming the first half is true.
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@sadolite
Ultimately I view chat AI’s an aid to literature (in the broadest possible sense), as the calculator is to math. But less accurate. Students will still need to fact check, especially in niche topics. And the AI may give them inspiration of what to add to their paper.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
I was referring to biblical/Abrahamic bigotry.
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@zedvictor4
Interesting that one might have views concerning homophobia, but no views concerning potential lesbophobia.
Lesbians didn’t exist 2000 years ago. Jokes aside, homo means same. Homosapien for example.
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@Mall
Then part of homophobia or part of the reasons are rational because of the molestation factor. Do you follow ?Do you agree that all gays are heterophobes?
I’d say per capita most boy oriented molesters are in the closet. If anything, they’re self-hating.
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@zedvictor4
I’ll ignore that you didn’t answer me. Anyway, that’s what we call a truism. Yes, there are 6 lives within said trolly problem.
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@TheUnderdog
Genes can be inactive. When it comes to “straight genes” and “gay genes” it isn’t an either/or when it comes to inheritance.
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@zedvictor4
I’m shit at math but aren’t you just saying how many lives there are in a roundabout way using algebra?
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@zedvictor4
Egg producer.
though some women don’t intrinsically produce eggs, uterus transplants are a thing now.
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@zedvictor4
I don’t think algebra can quantify the value of human life within this hypothetical.
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I’m guessing the younger you yell and spank the child, the more likely they’ll misbehave when they're older due to them not fully comprehending the situation. Yelling and hitting becomes a learnt behaviour for when they're mad. Adults that yell and hit are children in a way. They themselves don’t adequately comprehend the situation.
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@TheUnderdog
Chuck out our principles to trigger the left.
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@sadolite
My generation just answered the phone, your generation googles the phone number.
My generation knows what a scam is, your generation spends their life savings trying to help a Nigerian prince.
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@sadolite
Ready go,My generation cut off their mufflers your generation cuts off their dicks.
My generation is critical of media, your generation goes off memes on Facebook.
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God exists inside our imagination.
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@ebuc
I was just making a point that consciousness is fundamentally arbitrary.
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@IlDiavolo
Imagine if Jeffrey Epstein got suicided under a Democratic administration.
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A puddle is conscious when it takes shape of a concave.
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what would you expect from a "theory of everything" if you were going to take it seriously?
No idea. I assume by the time we get to that point, we’ll be answering more questions than we’re capable of asking.
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Do some Jewish people have an inferiority complex due to cultural scars? Some may call this radical empathy.
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@Vegasgiants
You hear whatever you want to hear.
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@Vegasgiants
Do you have a place in mind for them to call home?
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@Vegasgiants
It’s sort of like a reverse deal Native Amercans had with the settlers.
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