Here I have listed the different sources I use for my claims in PRO'S ROUND 1 ARGUMENT. Just as a note, the links down below are not blue or underlined, but when you copy and paste them into google, they WILL WORK, trust me.
Claim 1:
Just as a note, ALL these definitions are from Oxford Languages one of the most accurate in the world.
Part 3 (Since I couldn't fit all the sources in one comment due to character limit) Sources for Pro's 3rd argument:
4.
Claim 4A:If hateful speech has nothing to do with free speech,then why are there so many articles and papers talking about free speech and hateful speech
Claim 4B:There clearly has been discussion on whether free speech includes hate speech or not
Claim 4C:free speech is saying any opinion
Context:
''Hateful speech does,but this has nothing to do with free speech.''
What do you mean that hate speech doesn't,but hateful speech does?That is like saying that the feeling joyful exists but joy doesn't.Hateful speech is the same as hate speech.The same way joyful is describing something as feeling joy.You just twisted everything to make it easier for you,because you knew you were failing.Just adding a 'ful' to a word does not change the debate totally.More Evidence Later
If hateful speech has nothing to do with free speech,then why are there so many articles and papers talking about free speech and hateful speech(since hateful speech is the same as hate speech)?There clearly has been discussion on whether free speech includes hate speech or not,since saying hate speech IS saying your opinion,and free speech is saying any opinion.You see the connection?That is why there is a debate on this topic in the first place anyways.Also,hate speech and free speech both share the speech component.
Sources for claim 4A:
(I will just include 2 to not make it long)
-https://www.un.org/en/hate-speech/understanding-hate-speech/hate-speech-versus-freedom-of-speech
-https://uwm.edu/free-speech-rights-responsibilities/faqs/what-is-hate-speech-and-is-it-protected-by-the-first-amendment/
Sources for claim 4B:
(I will just include 2 to not make it long)
-https://www.stophateuk.org/about-hate-crime/what-is-online-hate-crime/online-hate-and-free-speech/
-https://www.amnesty.org.uk/free-speech-freedom-expression-human-right#:~:text=Freedom%20of%20speech%20and%20the,it%20can%20be%20legitimately%20restricted.
Source for Claim 4C:
This is the Oxford English Dictionary Definiton and it is really long because I can't see the Oxford English Dictionary definition of this word without paying, and if I went to the site of the definition, the URL would be much shorter:
Part 2 Sources (Since I couldn't fit all the sources in one comment due to character limit) for Pro's 3rd Argument:
3.
Claim 3A: I can list you more than 30 articles,journals,etc on hate speech.
Claim 3B: Even the UN talks about hate speech.
Claim 3C: Hate speech exists and is in most dictionaries,including Oxford English Dictionary,one of the most accurate/biggest dictionaries.
Context:
''Hate speech does not exist.''
Changed your whole argument.You said something inaccurate and contradicting your own argument,because my argument was too good and you dropped arguments.Faults in this:
If hate speech didn't exist,why were you talking about it in your argument,why didn't you say it earlier that it didn't exist?For example,you said in your first argument,''However, your lack of definition gives me the room necessary to create a theoretical point:threats always or almost always include a form of hateful speech.''and''The problem though,is that now threats become a form of hate speech'',so hate speech does exist,since you said that''threats become a form of hate speech.'',clearly meaning that hate speech exists and that threats are a part of them.Threats exist,and they are a part of hate speech,which we agreed upon,so that must mean hate speech,does exist.You even confirmed this with the quote,''entailing that you are also arguing that threats (since they ARE also hate speech)''.The same technique can be applied to shaming and bullying and this quote,''Of course,there ARE other forms of hate speech, like shaming and bullying,''.You also said ''what ‘hate speech’ you are talking about.'',meaning you believed that hate speech existed and were asking for a definition of what is considered hate speech.So what you are saying is that you believed that hate speech existed,and then some hours later your whole viewpoint apparentlychanged because you didn't know how to win against my argument,is that it?
Hateful Speech=hate speech (next rebuttal explains), and you said that hateful speech exists, so hate speech exists. Contradiction.
You provided no proof.All you wrote in your argument were 2 sentences,that weren't even long enough to include enough information.If you make a claim,you have the burden of proof,so what proof do you have for your claim that hate speech does not exist?Two short sentences is not an argument,sorry.
So all of the sources talking about hate speech are wrong?Websites can be wrong,but if information is the same on multiple websites,it likely is true,because it would be rare if all those sites lied about the same thing.I can list you more than 30 articles,journals,etc on hate speech.Even the UN talks about hate speech.Link in comments.
Hate speech exists and is in most dictionaries,including Oxford English Dictionary,one of the most accurate/biggest dictionaries.
Sources For Claim 3A:
(Let's just include 3 articles, so this comment isn't too long)
-https://www.ala.org/advocacy/intfreedom/hate#:~:text=Generally%2C%20however%2C%20hate%20speech%20is,%2C%20disability%2C%20or%20national%20origin.
-https://transparency.meta.com/en-gb/policies/community-standards/hate-speech/
-https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/combatting-discrimination/racism-and-xenophobia/eu-code-conduct-countering-illegal-hate-speech-online_en
These are two scholarly journals talking about hate speech and we know that scholarly journals take a lot of thought into making, and are usually more accurate than articles.
-https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2158244020973022
-https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2882244
Source for Claim 3B:
https://www.un.org/en/hate-speech/understanding-hate-speech/what-is-hate-speech
Sources for Claim 3C:
(I will just include 4 dictionaries to not make it too long)
Oxford English Dictionary:https://www.oed.com/dictionary/hate-speech_n?tl=true
Cambridge Dictionary:https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/hate-speech
Collins English Dictionary:https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/hate-speech
Dictionary.com:https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hate-speech
Part 1 Sources (Can't fit into character limit) for Pro's 3rd Argument:
Notes:
1.For the source of claim 4C down below, I used the Oxford English Dictionary Definiton and it is really long because I can't see the Oxford English Dictionary definition of the word 'free speech' without paying, and if I went to the site of the definition, the URL would be much shorter. The links below, they might not be in blue and be underlined, so if you want to visit them, perhaps for voting on who has better sources, you will have to copy and link the URL into the Google search bar. But trust me, they will work.
2.In the last comment I made, on pro's argument 2 sources, for the source of the definition of hate speech, the link does not work. But I think to access the definition you have to pay but the new link is:https://www.oed.com/dictionary/hate-speech_n?tl=true
This link is for the Oxford English Dictionary, but if you don't want to pay to see definition, you can just go to my second argument where I have included the definition of hate speech. Also, here are some other dictionary definitions of hate speech which you could also see:
Cambridge Dictionary:https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/hate-speech
Collins English Dictionary:https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/hate-speech
Dictionary.com:https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hate-speech
1.We cannot say anything,such as threats because they are not protected in the First Amendment.We know that you cannot threaten someone under the law in US
Context:
’’Third,It’s pretty obvious that you can say what you want under the First Amendment.‘’
We can say anything we want?We cannot say anything,such as threats because they are not protected in the First Amendment.You clearly said:‘’The problem though,is that now threats become a form of hate speech,entailing that you are also arguing that threats(since they are also hate speech)are protected under the First Amendment,which we know is not true.''.We know that you cannot threaten someone under the law in US,so why did you say we can say anything we want under the First Amendment?Contradiction.
2.a threat,a part of hate speech,not the whole part of hate speech,is not a protected right,but what about the rest of hate speech,that does not have threats?There is no rule in the law that hate speech,other than the 4 types of hate speech that are illegal,is illegal.if the argument about law aspect, some part of hate speech would not be allowed,while others would be.If debating about the law aspect of it in the US,
Context:
’’The problem though,is that now threats become a form of hate speech,entailing that you are also arguing that threats(since they are also hate speech)are protected under the First Amendment,which we know is not true.’’
Not talking about the First Amendment,but if were,you are saying that a threat,a part of hate speech,not the whole part of hate speech,is not a protected right,but what about the rest of hate speech,that does not have threats?There is no rule in the law that hate speech,other than the 4 types of hate speech that are illegal,is illegal.Therefore,if the argument about the law aspect, some part of hate speech would not be allowed,while others would be.If debating about the law aspect of it in the US,then that would be my stance.Yet we are not.
Note: I don't know how to shorten these links down below, and they might not be in blue and be underlined, so if you want to visit them, perhaps for voting on who has better sources, you will have to copy and link the URL into the Google search bar, so trust me, they will work.
Free Speech-noun
noun: free speech
the right to express any opinions without censorship or restraint.
Hate Speech-noun
noun: hate speech
abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice on the basis of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or similar grounds.
I am typing in the definition of the terms and their sources, but when I type the sources the URL is too big for each of them and they don't work. After typing and pressing the spacebar, they do not turn blue like a link. For example, this is the source link for one of the definitions:
https://www.google.com/search?q=free+speech+meaning&sca_esv=d3799be6f015f4e8&rlz=1CAOUAQ_enGB1114&ei=dIWyZt7JBt6Hxc8P3Nq1wAE&ved=0ahUKEwje09ummOGHAxXeQ_EDHVxtDRgQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=free+speech+meaning&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiE2ZyZWUgc3BlZWNoIG1lYW5pbmcyEBAAGIAEGJECGIoFGEYY-QEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIIEAAYFhgeGA8yKhAAGIAEGJECGIoFGEYY-QEYlwUYjAUY3QQYRhj5ARj0Axj1Axj2A9gBA0jBK1D2A1jSJnABeACQAQCYAcoFoAH_M6oBDTAuMy42LjQuMi4zLjG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAhSgAr85qAIKwgIUEAAYgAQYkQIYtAIYigUY6gLYAQHCAhQQABiABBjjBBi0AhjpBBjqAtgBAcICFhAAGAMYtAIY5QIY6gIYjAMYjwHYAQLCAgoQABiABBhDGIoFwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAggQABiABBixA8ICDhAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIIEC4YgAQYsQPCAg4QABiABBixAxiDARiKBcICBRAuGIAEwgIQEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiDARiKBcICDRAAGIAEGLEDGEMYigXCAhEQABiABBiRAhixAxiDARiKBcICCxAuGIAEGLEDGIMBwgILEAAYgAQYkQIYigXCAgsQLhiABBjHARivAcICKhAAGIAEGJECGIoFGEYY-QEYlwUYjAUY3QQYRhj5ARj0Axj1Axj2A9gBA8ICCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFmAM3ugYECAEYB7oGBAgCGAq6BgYIAxABGBOSBwsxLjEuNy41LjQuMqAH3KgB&sclient=gws-wiz-serp&surl=1&safe=active&ssui=on
Here I have listed the different sources I use for my claims in PRO'S ROUND 1 ARGUMENT. Just as a note, the links down below are not blue or underlined, but when you copy and paste them into google, they WILL WORK, trust me.
Claim 1:
Just as a note, ALL these definitions are from Oxford Languages one of the most accurate in the world.
Source:
https://languages.oup.com/google-dictionary-en/#:~:text=Oxford%20Languages%20is%20the%20world's,in%20more%20than%2050%20languages.
Claim 2:
Definition of HUMANITY in reference to our topic:
noun:human beings collectively
Source:
https://www.google.com/search?q=humanity+eaning&sca_esv=566487c1e8374dca&sca_upv=1&rlz=1CAOUAQ_enGB1114&ei=XqftZrOHMNnAhbIP0PLdoAI&ved=0ahUKEwizrvj4_NGIAxVZYEEAHVB5FyQQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=humanity+eaning&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiD2h1bWFuaXR5IGVhbmluZzISEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiKBRhGGPkBMgoQABiABBhDGIoFMgcQABiABBgKMgcQABiABBgKMgcQABiABBgKMgcQABiABBgKMgcQABiABBgKMgcQABiABBgKMgcQABiABBgKMgcQABiABBgKMiwQABiABBixAxhDGIoFGEYY-QEYlwUYjAUY3QQYRhj5ARj0Axj1Axj2A9gBAUjfF1COAViOFXAAeAKQAQCYAbwHoAGtF6oBCzItMi4wLjIuMS4xuAEDyAEA-AEBmAIHoAKPG8ICBBAAGEfCAg0QLhiABBixAxhDGIoFwgIQEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiDARiKBcICCBAuGIAEGNQCwgILEC4YgAQY0QMYxwHCAiwQABiABBixAxhDGIoFGEYY-QEYlwUYjAUY3QQYRhj5ARj0Axj1Axj2A9gBAcICCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFwgIFEAAYgATCAgcQLhiABBgKmAMAiAYBkAYIugYGCAEQARgTkgcNMS4wLjEuMS4yLjEuMaAH4ko&sclient=gws-wiz-serp&surl=1&safe=active&ssui=on
Claim 3:
Definition of DESTROY in reference to our topic:
verb:end the existence of (something) by damaging or attacking it.
Source:
https://www.google.com/search?q=destroy+meaning&sca_esv=566487c1e8374dca&sca_upv=1&rlz=1CAOUAQ_enGB1114&ei=E7TtZtKvFI2phbIP_Y_t4AQ&ved=0ahUKEwiShfCHidKIAxWNVEEAHf1HG0wQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=destroy+meaning&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiD2Rlc3Ryb3kgbWVhbmluZzISEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiKBRhGGPkBMgoQABiABBhDGIoFMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyLBAAGIAEGLEDGEMYigUYRhj5ARiXBRiMBRjdBBhGGPkBGPQDGPUDGPYD2AECSJyTAlCt_AFYxJECcAF4AZABAZgBqgOgAY4cqgEJMC41LjcuMi4xuAEDyAEA-AEBmAIPoALSHqgCFMICExAAGIAEGEMYtAIYigUY6gLYAQHCAhMQLhiABBhDGLQCGIoFGOoC2AEBwgIWEAAYAxi0AhjlAhjqAhiMAxiPAdgBAsICGRAuGAMY1AIYtAIY5QIY6gIYjAMYjwHYAQLCAgoQLhiABBhDGIoFwgIZEC4YgAQYQxiKBRiXBRjcBBjeBBjfBNgBAsICCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFwgILEC4YgAQYsQMY1ALCAhEQLhiABBixAxjRAxiDARjHAcICDhAuGIAEGLEDGNEDGMcBwgIQEC4YgAQYsQMYQxjUAhiKBcICDRAAGIAEGLEDGEMYigXCAhAQABiABBixAxhDGIMBGIoFwgIOEAAYgAQYsQMYgwEYigXCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAgQQABgDwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAiwQABiABBixAxhDGIoFGEYY-QEYlwUYjAUY3QQYRhj5ARj0Axj1Axj2A9gBAsICCBAuGIAEGNQCwgIFEC4YgASYA3S6BgQIARgHugYGCAIQARgKkgcJMC4yLjguNC4xoAetvQE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp&surl=1&safe=active&ssui=on
Claim 4:
Definition of DOOMED in reference to our topic:
adjective:likely to have an unfortunate and inescapable outcome; ill-fated.
Source:
https://www.google.com/search?q=doomed+meaning&sca_esv=566487c1e8374dca&sca_upv=1&rlz=1CAOUAQ_enGB1114&ei=e7PuZrTaG7CLi-gPnMKV0A4&oq=doomed+meaning&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiDmRvb21lZCBtZWFuaW5nKgIIADITEAAYgAQYkQIYsQMYigUYRhj5ATIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBTIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBTIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBTIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBTIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBTIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyLRAAGIAEGJECGLEDGIoFGEYY-QEYlwUYjAUY3QQYRhj5ARj0Axj1Axj2A9gBAkiQLFCxEFi1HXAFeAGQAQCYAf4DoAGBIaoBCTItMS4yLjUuMrgBAcgBAPgBAZgCD6AC7S2oAhTCAhMQABiABBhDGLQCGIoFGOoC2AEBwgIWEAAYAxi0AhjlAhjqAhiMAxiPAdgBAsICFhAuGAMYtAIY5QIY6gIYjAMYjwHYAQLCAg8QABiABBhDGIoFGEYY-QHCAikQABiABBhDGIoFGEYY-QEYlwUYjAUY3QQYRhj5ARj0Axj1Axj2A9gBAsICEBAAGIAEGJECGIoFGEYY-QHCAgsQABiABBiRAhiKBcICERAuGIAEGLEDGNEDGIMBGMcBwgIOEC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYigXCAg4QLhiABBixAxjRAxjHAcICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIIEC4YgAQYsQPCAioQABiABBiRAhiKBRhGGPkBGJcFGIwFGN0EGEYY-QEY9AMY9QMY9gPYAQLCAhAQLhiABBixAxhDGNQCGIoFwgINEC4YgAQYsQMYQxiKBcICDRAAGIAEGLEDGEMYigXCAggQABiABBixA8ICLRAAGIAEGJECGLEDGIoFGEYY-QEYlwUYjAUY3QQYRhj5ARj0Axj1Axj2A9gBAsICBRAuGIAEmAOSAroGBAgBGAe6BgYIAhABGAqSBwsyLjIuMS4wLjkuMaAH-5kB&sclient=gws-wiz-serp&surl=1&safe=active&ssui=on
Can anyone tell me what ''Extend argument''is? Is it just the second part of your argument or what? I am new so I don't know exactly what this means.
Part 3 (Since I couldn't fit all the sources in one comment due to character limit) Sources for Pro's 3rd argument:
4.
Claim 4A:If hateful speech has nothing to do with free speech,then why are there so many articles and papers talking about free speech and hateful speech
Claim 4B:There clearly has been discussion on whether free speech includes hate speech or not
Claim 4C:free speech is saying any opinion
Context:
''Hateful speech does,but this has nothing to do with free speech.''
What do you mean that hate speech doesn't,but hateful speech does?That is like saying that the feeling joyful exists but joy doesn't.Hateful speech is the same as hate speech.The same way joyful is describing something as feeling joy.You just twisted everything to make it easier for you,because you knew you were failing.Just adding a 'ful' to a word does not change the debate totally.More Evidence Later
If hateful speech has nothing to do with free speech,then why are there so many articles and papers talking about free speech and hateful speech(since hateful speech is the same as hate speech)?There clearly has been discussion on whether free speech includes hate speech or not,since saying hate speech IS saying your opinion,and free speech is saying any opinion.You see the connection?That is why there is a debate on this topic in the first place anyways.Also,hate speech and free speech both share the speech component.
Sources for claim 4A:
(I will just include 2 to not make it long)
-https://www.un.org/en/hate-speech/understanding-hate-speech/hate-speech-versus-freedom-of-speech
-https://uwm.edu/free-speech-rights-responsibilities/faqs/what-is-hate-speech-and-is-it-protected-by-the-first-amendment/
Sources for claim 4B:
(I will just include 2 to not make it long)
-https://www.stophateuk.org/about-hate-crime/what-is-online-hate-crime/online-hate-and-free-speech/
-https://www.amnesty.org.uk/free-speech-freedom-expression-human-right#:~:text=Freedom%20of%20speech%20and%20the,it%20can%20be%20legitimately%20restricted.
Source for Claim 4C:
This is the Oxford English Dictionary Definiton and it is really long because I can't see the Oxford English Dictionary definition of this word without paying, and if I went to the site of the definition, the URL would be much shorter:
https://www.google.com/searchq=free+speech+meaning&sca_esv=6201dd4f446f43b2&rlz=1CAOUAQ_enGB1114&biw=1300&bih=561&ei=6aW0ZsunCK6uhbIPpbC5wQM&ved=0ahUKEwiLwOLEn-WHAxUuV0EAHSVYLjgQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=free+speech+meaning&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiE2ZyZWUgc3BlZWNoIG1lYW5pbmcyChAAGIAEGEYY-QEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIIEAAYFhgeGA8yJBAAGIAEGEYY-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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp&surl=1&safe=active&ssui=on
Part 2 Sources (Since I couldn't fit all the sources in one comment due to character limit) for Pro's 3rd Argument:
3.
Claim 3A: I can list you more than 30 articles,journals,etc on hate speech.
Claim 3B: Even the UN talks about hate speech.
Claim 3C: Hate speech exists and is in most dictionaries,including Oxford English Dictionary,one of the most accurate/biggest dictionaries.
Context:
''Hate speech does not exist.''
Changed your whole argument.You said something inaccurate and contradicting your own argument,because my argument was too good and you dropped arguments.Faults in this:
If hate speech didn't exist,why were you talking about it in your argument,why didn't you say it earlier that it didn't exist?For example,you said in your first argument,''However, your lack of definition gives me the room necessary to create a theoretical point:threats always or almost always include a form of hateful speech.''and''The problem though,is that now threats become a form of hate speech'',so hate speech does exist,since you said that''threats become a form of hate speech.'',clearly meaning that hate speech exists and that threats are a part of them.Threats exist,and they are a part of hate speech,which we agreed upon,so that must mean hate speech,does exist.You even confirmed this with the quote,''entailing that you are also arguing that threats (since they ARE also hate speech)''.The same technique can be applied to shaming and bullying and this quote,''Of course,there ARE other forms of hate speech, like shaming and bullying,''.You also said ''what ‘hate speech’ you are talking about.'',meaning you believed that hate speech existed and were asking for a definition of what is considered hate speech.So what you are saying is that you believed that hate speech existed,and then some hours later your whole viewpoint apparentlychanged because you didn't know how to win against my argument,is that it?
Hateful Speech=hate speech (next rebuttal explains), and you said that hateful speech exists, so hate speech exists. Contradiction.
You provided no proof.All you wrote in your argument were 2 sentences,that weren't even long enough to include enough information.If you make a claim,you have the burden of proof,so what proof do you have for your claim that hate speech does not exist?Two short sentences is not an argument,sorry.
So all of the sources talking about hate speech are wrong?Websites can be wrong,but if information is the same on multiple websites,it likely is true,because it would be rare if all those sites lied about the same thing.I can list you more than 30 articles,journals,etc on hate speech.Even the UN talks about hate speech.Link in comments.
Hate speech exists and is in most dictionaries,including Oxford English Dictionary,one of the most accurate/biggest dictionaries.
Sources For Claim 3A:
(Let's just include 3 articles, so this comment isn't too long)
-https://www.ala.org/advocacy/intfreedom/hate#:~:text=Generally%2C%20however%2C%20hate%20speech%20is,%2C%20disability%2C%20or%20national%20origin.
-https://transparency.meta.com/en-gb/policies/community-standards/hate-speech/
-https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/combatting-discrimination/racism-and-xenophobia/eu-code-conduct-countering-illegal-hate-speech-online_en
These are two scholarly journals talking about hate speech and we know that scholarly journals take a lot of thought into making, and are usually more accurate than articles.
-https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2158244020973022
-https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2882244
Source for Claim 3B:
https://www.un.org/en/hate-speech/understanding-hate-speech/what-is-hate-speech
Sources for Claim 3C:
(I will just include 4 dictionaries to not make it too long)
Oxford English Dictionary:https://www.oed.com/dictionary/hate-speech_n?tl=true
Cambridge Dictionary:https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/hate-speech
Collins English Dictionary:https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/hate-speech
Dictionary.com:https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hate-speech
Part 1 Sources (Can't fit into character limit) for Pro's 3rd Argument:
Notes:
1.For the source of claim 4C down below, I used the Oxford English Dictionary Definiton and it is really long because I can't see the Oxford English Dictionary definition of the word 'free speech' without paying, and if I went to the site of the definition, the URL would be much shorter. The links below, they might not be in blue and be underlined, so if you want to visit them, perhaps for voting on who has better sources, you will have to copy and link the URL into the Google search bar. But trust me, they will work.
2.In the last comment I made, on pro's argument 2 sources, for the source of the definition of hate speech, the link does not work. But I think to access the definition you have to pay but the new link is:https://www.oed.com/dictionary/hate-speech_n?tl=true
This link is for the Oxford English Dictionary, but if you don't want to pay to see definition, you can just go to my second argument where I have included the definition of hate speech. Also, here are some other dictionary definitions of hate speech which you could also see:
Cambridge Dictionary:https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/hate-speech
Collins English Dictionary:https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/hate-speech
Dictionary.com:https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hate-speech
1.We cannot say anything,such as threats because they are not protected in the First Amendment.We know that you cannot threaten someone under the law in US
Context:
’’Third,It’s pretty obvious that you can say what you want under the First Amendment.‘’
We can say anything we want?We cannot say anything,such as threats because they are not protected in the First Amendment.You clearly said:‘’The problem though,is that now threats become a form of hate speech,entailing that you are also arguing that threats(since they are also hate speech)are protected under the First Amendment,which we know is not true.''.We know that you cannot threaten someone under the law in US,so why did you say we can say anything we want under the First Amendment?Contradiction.
Source:https://www.freedomforum.org/is-hate-speech-illegal/
2.a threat,a part of hate speech,not the whole part of hate speech,is not a protected right,but what about the rest of hate speech,that does not have threats?There is no rule in the law that hate speech,other than the 4 types of hate speech that are illegal,is illegal.if the argument about law aspect, some part of hate speech would not be allowed,while others would be.If debating about the law aspect of it in the US,
Context:
’’The problem though,is that now threats become a form of hate speech,entailing that you are also arguing that threats(since they are also hate speech)are protected under the First Amendment,which we know is not true.’’
Not talking about the First Amendment,but if were,you are saying that a threat,a part of hate speech,not the whole part of hate speech,is not a protected right,but what about the rest of hate speech,that does not have threats?There is no rule in the law that hate speech,other than the 4 types of hate speech that are illegal,is illegal.Therefore,if the argument about the law aspect, some part of hate speech would not be allowed,while others would be.If debating about the law aspect of it in the US,then that would be my stance.Yet we are not.
Source:https://www.freedomforum.org/is-hate-speech-illegal/
These sources are for Pro's argument 2:
Note: I don't know how to shorten these links down below, and they might not be in blue and be underlined, so if you want to visit them, perhaps for voting on who has better sources, you will have to copy and link the URL into the Google search bar, so trust me, they will work.
Free Speech-noun
noun: free speech
the right to express any opinions without censorship or restraint.
Source:https://www.google.com/search?q=free+speech+meaning&sca_esv=6201dd4f446f43b2&rlz=1CAOUAQ_enGB1114&biw=1300&bih=561&ei=6aW0ZsunCK6uhbIPpbC5wQM&ved=0ahUKEwiLwOLEn-WHAxUuV0EAHSVYLjgQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=free+speech+meaning&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiE2ZyZWUgc3BlZWNoIG1lYW5pbmcyChAAGIAEGEYY-QEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIIEAAYFhgeGA8yJBAAGIAEGEYY-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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp&surl=1&safe=active&ssui=on
Hate Speech-noun
noun: hate speech
abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice on the basis of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or similar grounds.
Source:oogle.com/search?q=hate+speech+meaning&sca_esv=6201dd4f446f43b2&rlz=1CAOUAQ_enGB1114&biw=1300&bih=561&ei=FKa0ZsmeCb-zhbIP2qqgyQE&ved=0ahUKEwjJ-KPZnWHAxW_WUEAHVoVKBkQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=hate+speech+meaning&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiE2hhdGUgc3BlZWNoIG1lYW5pbmcyCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFMgoQABiABBhDGIoFMhAQABiABBixAxhDGIMBGIoFMg4QABiABBiRAhixAxiKBTILEAAYgAQYkQIYigUyERAAGIAEGJECGLEDGIMBGIoFMgoQABiABBhDGIoFMgoQABiABBhDGIoFMgoQABiABBhDGIoFMgoQABiABBhDGIoFSO4ZUNgLWK0XcAJ4AZABAJgBxgKgAYETqgEHMC4zLjYuMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCA6AC0APCAgoQABiwAxjWBBhHwgINEAAYgAQYsAMYQxiKBZgDAIgGAZAGCpIHBzEuMS4wLjGgB8NI&sclient=gws-wiz-serp&surl=1&safe=active&ssui=on
ok then
This is my first debate on debatart, although i have debated before with friends in real life. Do you guys have any tips?
I am typing in the definition of the terms and their sources, but when I type the sources the URL is too big for each of them and they don't work. After typing and pressing the spacebar, they do not turn blue like a link. For example, this is the source link for one of the definitions:
https://www.google.com/search?q=free+speech+meaning&sca_esv=d3799be6f015f4e8&rlz=1CAOUAQ_enGB1114&ei=dIWyZt7JBt6Hxc8P3Nq1wAE&ved=0ahUKEwje09ummOGHAxXeQ_EDHVxtDRgQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=free+speech+meaning&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiE2ZyZWUgc3BlZWNoIG1lYW5pbmcyEBAAGIAEGJECGIoFGEYY-QEyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIIEAAYFhgeGA8yKhAAGIAEGJECGIoFGEYY-QEYlwUYjAUY3QQYRhj5ARj0Axj1Axj2A9gBA0jBK1D2A1jSJnABeACQAQCYAcoFoAH_M6oBDTAuMy42LjQuMi4zLjG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAhSgAr85qAIKwgIUEAAYgAQYkQIYtAIYigUY6gLYAQHCAhQQABiABBjjBBi0AhjpBBjqAtgBAcICFhAAGAMYtAIY5QIY6gIYjAMYjwHYAQLCAgoQABiABBhDGIoFwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAggQABiABBixA8ICDhAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIIEC4YgAQYsQPCAg4QABiABBixAxiDARiKBcICBRAuGIAEwgIQEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiDARiKBcICDRAAGIAEGLEDGEMYigXCAhEQABiABBiRAhixAxiDARiKBcICCxAuGIAEGLEDGIMBwgILEAAYgAQYkQIYigXCAgsQLhiABBjHARivAcICKhAAGIAEGJECGIoFGEYY-QEYlwUYjAUY3QQYRhj5ARj0Axj1Axj2A9gBA8ICCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFmAM3ugYECAEYB7oGBAgCGAq6BgYIAxABGBOSBwsxLjEuNy41LjQuMqAH3KgB&sclient=gws-wiz-serp&surl=1&safe=active&ssui=on
Sooooo, any solutions?
Ok...... I will definitely define some terms soon. Didn't think about it but will do. Thanks for the tips.