Nevets

Jehovah's Witnesses identify as Christians, but their beliefs are different from other Christians in some ways. For instance, they teach that Jesus is the son of God but is not part of a Trinity.

How do you make that distinction?

"Mythohistory"....Never heard of it

Is that an American compound?

It was put to me that I am inconsistent in my position in respect of the above question. And perhaps, he is correct in his assessment. 

Nevertheless, until there is a simple manner on how we can do it, then the ordinary cut and thrust of the so called religious discussion on this forum is unhelpful. 

It goes around and around and around - it gets bitter and twisted and nasty. 

I wonder how many others think this is the case or whether I am alone?  Please care to comment. 

Jesus healing the bleeding woman (or "woman with an issue of blood" and other variants) is one of the miracles of Jesus in the Gospels (Matthew 9:20–22, Mark 5:25–34, Luke 8:43–48).[1]

Jesus healing an infirm woman is one of the miracles of Jesus in the Gospels (Luke 13:10-17).[1]

Nevets,

YOUR QUOTE RELATING TO JESUS' MODUS OPERANDI: "I think you mean Yeshua, not Yahweh."

When Jesus becomes God within the scriptures (John 1:14), and since there is only one God the Hebrews worshipped (Isaiah 44:5), then that God is in fact "Yahweh," therefore Jesus is Yahweh god incarnate and not Yeshua.

Nevets,

Relative to your extreme ages of Biblical characters, how do pseudo-christians deal with the blatant contradiction in what is shown within this passage stated by Moses: “The days of our lives are seventy years; and if by reason of strength they are eighty years, yet their boast is only labor and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away” (Psalm 90:10)."

“EVERY word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5). Therefore Moses stating the above Biblical axiom blatantly contradicts your treatise upon Bible characters living in the numbers you represented, now what?  

Notwithstanding exaggeration.

Moon cycles is probably best bet.....Especially before the movements of the Earth relative to the Sun became an accepted fact.

That would put old Thusey in his seventies.....Probably a ripe old age for the time.

Eridu appears to be the earliest settlement in the region, founded c. 5400 BC, close to the Persian Gulf near the mouth of the Euphrates River. Because of accumulation of silt at the shoreline over the millennia, the remains of Eridu are now some distance from the gulf at Abu Shahrain in Iraq.

In Eridu, Alulim became king; he ruled for 28800 years. Alalngar ruled for 36000 years. 2 kings; they ruled for 64800 years. Then Eridu fell and the kingship was taken to Bad-tibira.

The earliest mentions of "Jesus" are impossible because the name Jesus is a translation into itself, the earliest mentions of the Hebrew translation are the books of the bible - that is all - you historians reacting to these claims, but not actually verifying them.

Methuselah (US: /məˈθuːzˌlɑː/) (Hebrew: מְתוּשֶׁלַח‎ Məṯūšélaḥ, in pausa מְתוּשָׁלַח‎ Məṯūšā́laḥ, "Man of the javelin" or "Death of Sword";[1] Greek: Μαθουσάλας Mathousalas)[2] was a biblical patriarch and a figure in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Having died at the age of 969, he lived the longest of all human figures mentioned in the Bible.[3] 

Enmebaragesi (Sumerian:𒂗𒈨𒁈𒄄𒋛)[3] originally Mebarasi (Sumerian:𒈨𒁈𒋛)[1] was the penultimate king of the first dynasty of Kish and is recorded as having reigned 900 years in the Sumerian King List. Like his son and successor Aga he reigned during a period when Kish had hegemony over Sumer.a[4] Enmebaragesi signals a momentous documentary leap from mytho-history to history, since he is the earliest ruler on the king list whose name is attested directly from archaeology.

In ancient Egypt, the cattle count was one of the two main means of evaluating the amount of taxes to be levied, the other one being the height of the annual inundation. A very important economic event, the cattle count was controlled by high officials, and was connected to several cultic feasts. In addition it served as a means of dating other events, with the entire year when it occurred being called "year of the Xth cattle count under the person of the king Y". The frequency of cattle counts varied through the history of ancient Egypt; in the Old Kingdom it was most likely biennial, i.e. occurring every two years, and became more frequent subsequently.

 He is recorded as having reigned as both king and gudug priest for ten sars (periods of 3,600 years),[3] although this figure is probably a copyist error for ten years.[4] 

Moses may be a myth to people who have no faith but even Egyptian sources are less reliable than the Bible which is strong proof of  Moses and all that happened.

Which include that which you continue to ignore: the included story of a higher law than the law of Noses: the promise of a Messiah, embodies by Jesus Christ.

Your awareness needs enlightening:

1. Moses is the author of the Pentateuch, Genesis through Deuteronomy [299 pages in my KJV] He is a Levite, not of Judah.

2. Joshua, the author of his self-named book [173 pgs[ Josh is of Ephraim, not Judah

3. Ruth, the next author [4 pgs] She is not of the House of Israel at all, but a Moabite.

4. Samuel, both books [86 pgs] is also a Levite, not of Judah.

5. Kings [2 books about David] [90 pgs], our first biblical Jew.

6. Chronicles [2 books about Jews, attributed to Ezra, a Jew [360 pgs] Ezra is of Judah, but he reviews for us the lineage of Jacob [Israel] and his 12 sons.

7. The balance are from Judah, with the exception of Malachi, a Levite. [15 pgs].

Virtually half of the O.T. [ 577 of 1184 pages] is written by, or attributed to authors who are not of the House of Judah.

If I can look this stuff up, so can you. Why don't you?

Torah (/ˈtɔːrə, ˈtoʊrə/; Hebrew: תּוֹרָה‎, "Instruction", "Teaching" or "Law") has a range of meanings. It can most specifically mean the first five books (Pentateuch or Five Books of Moses) of the Hebrew Bible.

Influence? Of course. But we're talking origins of religions here, or do I misunderstand what you mean by "creation and evolution of Abrahamic religion?" Your words, my friend, not mine. And since the advent of the Messiah is taught to Adam and Eve, a point you have completely ignored, by the way, and repeated in Judaism when Moses brought the Law, which included, had you forgotten [an apparent epidemic] all tribes of the House of Israel in Egypt, and brought out of Egypt by Moses, and established in Canaan as multiple tribes, not just the House of Judah.  Your first citation goes nowhere. The second only mentions the Jews, not any other House of Israel. You cannot combiine them. all together as even many "scholars" do, because they are of very separate material lineage [four mothers, no? not one]. Gather your entire history. Selective history might be interesting, but we're allegedly talking origins here. Stick to your subject.

Your source may claim, "Early Chgristianity began as a first century Jewish movement," but as I have demonstrated, Christianity, a religion, after all, based on Jesus Christ, the Messiah, the Redeemer, the Bruiser of Satan's Head, was taught to Adam and Eve, millennia before the first century.  

You are ignoring origins. Stop, wake up, read the texts for what they are telling you.  Paul did not invent "Christ, and Christ crucified" as a teaching point.

In the Book of Genesis of the Hebrew Bible, chapters one through five, there are two creation narratives with two distinct perspectives. In the first, Adam and Eve are not named. Instead, God created humankind in God's image and instructed them to multiply and to be stewards over everything else that God had made. In the second narrative, God fashions Adam from dust and places him in the Garden of Eden. 

You're entertaining an historic misconception. Christianity and Islam did not split out of Judaism. Not if the history is really understood for what it is. 

1. Abraham [or Abram], was Judah's Great grandfather [Judah, for whom Judaism is named].

2. Actually, it was not even Judah who promulgated Judaism; Moses is you promulgator, 6 or 7 generations following Judah, being the one who delivered the Law [of Moses].

3. From the Law of Moses [Judaism] we are introduced to the concept of a Messiah [Christ, and Christianity].

4. Adam and Eve are advised [Gen 3] that Eve's seed [her descendent] will bruise the head of the serpent [Satan]. The bruising descendent is Christ.

5.Let us recall from Exodus that the Lord gave Moses commandments, written by the Lord on tablets, commandments re: the proper worship of God, and the proper comportment of the people with one another, and in just those 10 commandments are the principles taught by Christ in two sermons: on the Mount, and the Bread of Life. But also recall by further reading in Exodus that Moses came down from Sinai and observed the people breaking virtually all the Commandments just received, which actually included the building of a tabernacle, after which the first Temple of Solomon at Jerusalem was eventually built, and renovated on at least two occasions before Christ came. The Lord then gave just a replacement of the tablets, the 10 commandments, and then over time taught them the detail of obedience that is the sum of the Torah today, but none of the higher law originally given but from the 10 Commandments. That higher law would be withheld until Christ came. Thus, by his coming, Christ fulfilled the Law of Moses, offering its replacement, the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which should have been what was lived all along, the higher law, since Adam.

6. Islam owes allegiance to Abraham, but not to Judah. Islam comes from Abraham through Ishmael, not Issac. Abraham, therefore is a fountainhead for Judaism, and then Islam, but the idea of a Redeemer of mankind, a Messiah, is as old as Adam and Eve.

As previously pointed out, the Five books of Moses had been canonized in the year 444bc. During the subsequent five hundred years, under Persian, Greek, and Roman domination, the Jews wrote, revised, admitted, and canonized the Jewish old testament.

Early Christianity began as a Jewish movement in the first-century Palestine.

Jesus[e] (c. 4 BC – AD 30 / 33), also referred to as Jesus of Nazareth or Jesus Christ,[f] was a first-century Jewish preacher and religious leader.[11]

Many physical things have been proven wring since then, regarding scientific facts but fubnily enough the one thing that may be true is that we live on a stationary flat disc, as the Bible old testament (which is identical in storyline to the Torah) strongly implies. The Qur'an also implies this at certain points since it supports the old testament Bible being true.

Do you mean Judaism or all the Abrahamic religions? Cause Judaism is still a fairly closed religion. You get converts but most are born into the faith and it's still strongly tied to the Jewish people. 

The two largest religious traditions in the world today both emerged from a common monotheistic orientation originating originating in the Middle East. 

Both Christianity,  the largest worldwide religion in numbers of adherents, and Islam, with the second largest number of followers, share a common beginning in the monotheism of the Judaic religion.

The Israelites and their culture, according to the modern archaeological account, did not overtake the region by force, but instead branched out of these Canaanite peoples and their cultures through the development of a distinct monolatristic—and later monotheistic—religion centered on Yahweh.[90][91][92][93][94][95]

RELIGION POLL #1: What is the best argument for/against the historicity of the resurrection of Jesus, and why?

I don't need a theory. I leave that to others who are much cleverer than me.  I just think that if we give air time to a myth which we think ought to be canceled - then we undo ourselves. 

So why give air to a subject that ought to be closed down? It seems to me - the more you bring this sort of stuff up - the more air time and the larger the myth becomes. 

I am Benjamin, I live in Norway.

What is the evidence that Jesus ever existed? 

Noah's Ark (Hebrew: תיבת נח‎; Biblical Hebrew: Tevat Noaḥ)

 Many of the Old Testament biblical stories are lifted from  ancient Sumerian epics.. This is a proven fact. They were likely to have been copied during the exile in Babylon.

ABRAM aka Abraham came from Mesopotamia. It is believed that he was "called by god" to leave his homeland to create a new nation elsewhere.

According to the Genesis account, Noah labored faithfully to build the Ark at God's command, ultimately saving not only his own family, but mankind itself and all land animals, from extinction during the Flood. 

He is tasked by the god Enki (Ea) to abandon his worldly possessions and create a giant ship to be called Preserver of Life.

The Preserver of Life was made of solid timber, so that the rays of Shamash (the sun) would not shine in, and of equal dimensions in length and width. The design of the ship was supposedly drawn on the ground by Enki, and the frame of the ark, which was made in five days, was 200 feet in length, width and height, with a floor-space of one acre.[2] The ark interior had seven floors, each floor divided into 9 sections, finishing the ark fully on the seventh day. The entrance to the ship was sealed once everyone had boarded the ship.

He was also tasked with bringing his wife, family, and relatives along with the craftsmen of his village, baby animals, and grains.[2] 

Only by tradition, which generally does not have a scholastic source, such as the location of the Garden of Eden, is the garden located in Sumerian territory. There is no empiric evidence of it, certainly not by etymology.

Another favorite locale for the Garden had been Turkey, because both the Tigris and the Euphrates rise inthe mountains there, and because Mount Ararat, where Noah's Ark came to rest, is there. In the pasthundred years. since the discovery of ancient civilizations in modern Iraq, scholars have leaned toward theTigris-Euphrates valley in general, and to the sites of southern Sumer, about 150 miles north of the presenthead of the Persian Gulf, in particular (map, above).To this southern Sumerian theory Dr. Juris Zarins, of Southwest Missouri State University in Springfield,would murmur: "You're getting warmer. For Dr. Zarins, who has spent seven years working out his ownhypothesis, believes that the Garden of Eden lies presently under the waters of the Persian Gulf, and hefurther believes that the story of Adam and Eve in-and especially out-of the Garden is a highly condensedand evocative account of perhaps the greatest revolution that ever shook mankind: the shift from huntinggathering to agriculture.

Like the Genesis flood narrative, the Genesis creation narrative and the account of the Tower of Babel, the story of Eden echoes the Mesopotamian myth of a king, as a primordial man, who is placed in a divine garden to guard the Tree of Life.[10] 

Eannatum (Sumerian: 𒂍𒀭𒈾𒁺 É.AN.NA-tum2) was a Sumerian Ensi (ruler or king) of Lagash circa 2500–2400 BCE. He established one of the first verifiable empires in history: he subdued Elam and destroyed the city of Susa as well as several other Iranian cities, and extended his domain to Sumer and Akkad.[1] One inscription found on a boulder states that Eannatum was his Sumerian name, while his "Tidnu" (Amorite) name was Lumma.

He entered into conflict with Umma, waging a war over the fertile plain of Gu-Edin.[1] 

The name derives from the Akkadian edinnu, from a Sumerian word edin meaning "plain" or "steppe", 

Gu-Edin (also transcribed "Gu'edena" or "Guedena") was a fertile plain in Sumer, in modern-day Iraq. It lay between Umma and Lagash, and claims made on it by each side were a cause of war.[1] Argument over the territory continued for around 150 years.[2]

Israel and his entire house of 70,[46] gathered up with all their livestock and began their journey to Egypt.

while the Old Kingdom annals record that he received tribute from a region that is either the Eastern Desert or Canaan in the form of a workforce of one chieftain and 70 foreigners[102] (likely women),[93

The Exodus (Hebrew: יציאת מצרים, Yeẓi’at Miẓrayim: lit. 'Departure from Egypt') is the founding myth of the Israelites.[1]

Ahmose began the conquest of Lower Egypt held by the Hyksos starting around the 11th year of Khamudi's reign, but the sequence of events is not universally agreed upon.[25]

David[b] is described in the Hebrew Bible as king of the United Monarchy of Israel and Judah.[6][

Solomon (/ˈsɒləmən/; Hebrew: שְׁלֹמֹה‎, Shlomoh),[a] also called Jedidiah (Hebrew יְדִידְיָהּ‎ Yedidyah), was, according to the Hebrew Bible or Old Testament,[3] Quran, and Hadiths, a fabulously wealthy and wise king of the United Kingdom of Israel who succeeded his father, King David.[4] 

The son of Shoshenq I and his chief consort Karomat A, Osorkon I was the second king of ancient Egypt's 22nd Dynasty and ruled around 922 BC – 887 BC. He succeeded his father Shoshenq I, who probably died within a year of his successful 923 BC campaign against the Pilistines and the kingdom of Israel. Osorkon I's reign is known for many temple building projects and was a long and prosperous period of Egypt's History.

Yahshuah, not Yeshua. There's a significant semantic difference. Yahshuah means 'your saviour'.

"Jesus" is an Anglicized form of the Greek name Yesous found in the New Testament. Yesous represents the Hebrew Bible name Yeshua, which occurs as "Jeshua" in English Bibles (Ezra 2:2; Neh 7:7). In Medieval English the "J" was pronounced as a "Y."

"Yehoshua"

Yeshua, in turn, is a shortened form of the name Yehoshua ("Joshua" in English Bibles).

Yahweh is the name of the state god of the ancient Kingdom of Israel and, later, the Kingdom of Judah.

Jesus' actual name during his era was Yahweh, not Jesus

I think that there is a general consensus between historians, both theist and atheist that Jesus Christ did exist.

Socrates Chrestus (Greek: Σωκράτης ό Χρηστός; Chrestus (The Good)[1] died 90–88 BC) was the second son of Nicomedes III of Bithynia. He usurped the Bithynian throne by deposing his elder brother or half brother, Nicomedes IV of Bithynia.

Given that the Pauline epistles are generally dated AD 50–60, they are the earliest surviving Christian texts that include information about Jesus.[129] These letters were written approximately twenty to thirty years after the generally accepted time period for the death of Jesus, around AD 30–36.[129]

Since the Jews constantly made disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, he expelled them from Rome.

As it is highly unlikely that a hypothetical Christian interpolator would have called Jesus "Chrestus", placed him in Rome in 49, or called him a "troublemaker", the overwhelming majority of scholars conclude that the passage is genuine.[23]

The Sagas of Icelanders say that a Norwegian named Naddodd (or Naddador) was the first Norseman to reach Iceland, and in the 9th century he named it Snæland or "snow land" because it was snowing. Following Naddodd, the Swede Garðar Svavarsson arrived, and so the island was then called Garðarshólmur which means "Garðar's Isle".

1. Generally, how do you identify politically?

2. Given the following 6 political identities, which do you most closely relate to? (Anarchist, Liberal, Centrist, Libertarian, Conservative, Authoratarian) 

3. If you were to choose 4 political identities as the most common - which four would they be?

4. If you were to briefly describe your general political identity - how would you?

5. If you were to briefly describe your closest-relative political identity - how would you?

6. If you were to briefly describe the political identity which is directly opposed to yours - how would you?

7. If you were to list the positions most integral to your political identity - what would they be? (listed from least to most important)

8. If you were to list the top 4 positions which you most agree with, what four would they be?

9. Do you consider your political identity widely represented in your respective government?

1. What do you believe to be the biggest social problem of today's era?

2. How do you think this problem could be solved generally?

3. What do you think of these sexual/gender identities; Homosexual, Bisexual, Transgender, or Asexual?

4. What do you think of cultural labels such as "cultural marxists" or "TERFs"? (though not limited to those labels specifically)

5. Which, if any, circumstances do you believe justifies abortion?

6. What do you believe to be the ideal home environment?

7. What do you believe to be the most important value to instill in young individuals?

8. What do you think of cultural movements such as BLM or Feminism?

9. Should taxpayer money be used to support policies such as Universal Healthcare and Universal Secondary Education?

1. Generally, which religion do you identify with?

2. Generally, do you believe religion to be important to society - how so or how not?

3. Do you believe the religion you identify with is being persucted or bigoted against?

4. Do you believe that its important for education to instill relgious values into children?

5. Aside from the god of your religion, do you believe that religion is the most important aspect of life?

6. Do you believe that everyone else, or the majority of people, should be of your religion?

7. What do you think of indivudals who do not affilate with your religion?

8. Do you believe that the church and government should be seperated?

9. Do you believe that individuals have a freedom from religion as well as a freedom to religion?

1. Generally, do you believe science to be an accurate way of interpreting and describing our reality?

2. Do you believe that the theory of natural selection and evolution is how the current species of the earth developed?

3. Do you believe that creationism is how the current species of the earth developed?

4. Do you believe that the big bang and cosmologic evolution is how our current universe "began"?

5. Do you believe that the oblate spheroid model of the earth is accurate in regards to the shape of the earth?

6. Do you believe that climate change is happening at an increased rate?

7. Do you believe that there are genetic differences between different ethnicities aside from melalin content?

8. Do you believe that IQ tests are accurate ways of measuring an individual's intelligence?

9. Do you believe that the current scientific consensus is accurate in regards to the description of reality?