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@zedvictor4
As long as important intellects are developing stuff, then the other 8 billion or so can jabber on and fight to their hearts content.Though it's far to suggest that evolution requires both.
I think"Intellectuals" shouldn't be shadow kings and emperors. A muslim "intellect" doesn't have the right to lord over everyone's lifestyle just because he has read a thousand hadith narrations of Muhammad.
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@Savant
It's not an insult. Romance often requires a healthy amount of variety especially if you've run past the seven-year itch. He might've been married and I would've had no way of knowing that.
I can see why you'd think that though. I suppose it's fair that I should've clarified since the world is divided in continents and my posted messages are likely misinterpreted.
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@WyIted
I am learning some stuff from you in these responses, so my responses are only my first impressions given I don't know more than what you have written about kafars and dhimmis.In their situations I would like to think I would still work against Islam, but I am not in their shoes so I don't want to judge too harshly.
I've already met the dhimmis and kuffars in Muslim majority countries. I think you have a chance of meeting Kuffars in the US though. You can definitely judge them. What would you think about them popularizing islam in a wholesome way? I think It's like Victimhood Nazism from one of Hitler's speeches. I might be too extreme though. You have a better hand at judging this since i know you live in the US. What's your opinion?
You mentioned they will go on TV and say stuff like "it is so nice living under Sharia law because I can pray"It's disgusting. Whay society would ban anyone from praying? What are Muslims comparing themselves to?
I'm sure you know this, but I'll just say it in a forum for everyone else. Islam guarantees independent Christian courts and churches at the cost of speech, proselytization and wholesale publication of their faith. Polytheists are not afforded the same rights though. So technically, a hindu/buddhist has less rights than a dhimmi. And, the expansion of churches is also harshly banned, but dhimmis often resort to clever ways of bypassing. For example, they've made literal underground churches. Years of living under this environment has softened their look on Islam, considering how lifestyles in muslim countries are all geared toward befriending Islam.
Even the Chinese won't stop you from praying and they are pretty oppressive towards religion in general.I wonder if there are people in North Korea right now who are like "Kim Jung Un is not so bad, he allows me over 20 minutes to take a shit".
Well, the only reason they're not as cruel as islam is because islam has failed in its East Asia Project. Arabs were forceful in their preaching, and they forced the Chinese and Japanese to adopt circular dome mosques. Obviously, you know asians like Intelligence. Chances are he's the same person even if he lived in Medieval China 1000 years ago. I think he'd probably be the first person to scream at the CCP if things like this ever happens again. Lol. You'd have a greater chance of preaching christianity tbh in China. You'd make bank lol.
There are probably north koreans who think like that, but I'm betting life under Kim Jong Un is better than life under authentic Islam. I know it's apostate bias.
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@Greyparrot
@ebuc
That's one way of looking at Wylted's advice. Well, my GF does have an active mind and she's often more mindful of things even if she's rebellious to her friends. I guess her active mind needs some sort of a reciprocating force, if that makes sense. Maybe being a dick will add new variety to our relationship.
I will try a proper give and take based on this. I've only ever succeeded in romance, but I should pay attention to other things outside of it. Thank you.
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@Castin
Sharia is why separation of church and state is important bro. Not that American Christians are very supportive of separation of church and state, I suppose. I don't think they appreciate the principle, they'd just rather it be their church in charge of the state.
I'm not familiar with institutionalized Christianity, and on the occasion that I do join certain christian groups, I almost always back out due to the lack of proper theological discourse. I do think that if they indeed don't appreciate the principle, that Christians should at least stop wasting time spreading their faith almost "by the sword". I assume you have more experience on what this is like considering how certain parts of America remain religious.
Anyway, Sharia law isn't just a "church", it is also a "state". There are family laws, sure, but there are also guidelines for monitoring habit and communication style. These are problematic and tyrannical when islam starts to model itself in the image of its over-analytical perverted prophet. If you're a practitioner in clinical psychology, you'll be forced to recite Al-Fatihah before any major event and to pay lip service. You can glance at Pakistan and Malaysian websites for an easy tour of this. From time to time, they'll credit Islam for secular inventions in mental health and make it their central thesis.
On appearance, this might seem harmless in the same way your moderate muslim friend says "Alhamdulillah". In reality, however, they are crediting every non-muslim invention to Allah's will, and any contrarian belief that dares itself on a public platform gets tortured/reprimanded/banned depending on how religious the Sunni State is. I don't blame the muslims for living to Allah's guidelines, they are indeed true in their sincere but misguided belief that everything originates from Allah. Lol. There's rarely any hypocrisy between Sunni/Shia Muslims especially if they're observing the religious texts closely. Of that, I can guarantee you as an apostate. It just so happens that they want every level of this adherence at the state level. Because they've centered life around Islam, they're also prone to having mental outbursts and insane conspiracies when met with a state of mind that runs contrary to their own.
This is why Christians hover only at the 1% population mark in Lebanon, and Jews have effectively migrated elsewhere. Sure, the Lebanese dhimmis support Hezbollah but they have already supported islam just like the vast majority of kuffars (easy example of a Kuffar is your average alcoholic muslim friend being hateful about Israel while reciting praises in Muhammad's name) in the US.
I used to watch him all the time. Then one day he went on this long tirade about how liking Batman and Marvel movies is stupid and childish and I was like, "You sir have CROSSED THE LINE. Good DAY sir."
Old people tend to do that. Lol. I don't mind them trying to fit in at all. It's like they have a romanticized idea of youth. I just wish they'd watch it.
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@Best.Korea
As you say, you think a portion of fatwas are probably liberal in writing. I'm reading the two replies you've had earlier than this, and it looks like we're having a back and forth. I learned quite a bit from 3RU7AL. I suppose that it until a new topic/idea comes along.
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Very vivid for the imagination. Nice.
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@Best.Korea
Naturally, of course. Yet, there were 2 lone Christian philosophers who denounced the Spanish King for treating American natives as less than human. At least there's diversity in Christian thought, unlike contemporary Islam.
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@Best.Korea
If you mean differences in looking at the various ways of exterminating kafir jews, I guess you're right. A wahabi would advise against taking up arms against a foreign state, because observance of foreign state laws are important as observing Maqasid rules. There's a reason why Sunni states aren't doing much on Palestine. Here's a Hint...the Ulamas prioritize genocide prayers instead of armed conflict.
I suppose reciting "May Allah destroy the jews" right next to Prophet Muhammad's grave in Masjid Nabawi is different than a Hamas sniping scoring headshots on IDF trainees. That's true.
Well, you need the correct Tafsir, and accompanying Hadith references when dealing with vague Quran claims such as "No compulsion" or "revenge killing". Muhammad has a set of rules about revenge killing, it's a very interesting set of rules in my opinion.
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@Best.Korea
I guess you dont know Bible better than Christians who burned witches and hunted vampires, and started countless wars (against each other too).
Well, the swamp of Japan was also well-known for being impartial to Jesus' teachings. No matter how tyrannical a clan ruled in Feudal Japan, Catholic missionaries failed to convert the population in mass. Today, Japan adopted its own brand of Christianity.
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@Best.Korea
You might've seen the fanaticism of televangelists, but those differ greatly from mainstream theological interpretations of the Bible. And, If I'm adding more differences, the average follower of Christ likely won't believe in the same things as I do because I subscribe to an even more esoteric branch of Christianity. So long as I follow Christ, I believe I'm on the right path.
Unfortunately, Islam doesn't have that. All clerics, unless otherwise ordered by an opportunist muslim state, are required to read the endless amount of fatwas (declarations) of the ulama. These fatwas are often well-written because the Ulamas are usually high-iq professional writers with complete devotion to Muhammad's designs. They are accurate in their interpretation of Muhammad, and no amount of pop-culture washing or sanitizing by grifting moderate muslims will change that.
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@WyIted
Bill Maher is the only good commentator of Islam. Everyone hates him because he made a career out of hate. But he's always right on the money.
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I'm not sure if Best korea is trolling but I agree with him. I like honesty too. Underdog had no filter and he reminds me a lot about real life. I often do not care about social rules so I think it's nice to see Underdog being honest with hypocrites on the left and right.
I'm pro UD
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@FLRW
I only friend people who I think have an IQ over 130. I friended TheUnderdog.
LOL Funny.
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Underdog needs to come back. I agree with that. He had an issue with everything and everywhere, and I liked his posts because they bring some unique perspective.
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Asmongold slipped because his $2 brain filled steaks did a U-turn when he said:
"I'm not talking (inferiority) about Muslims, I'm talking about Palestinians."
WRONG. Asmongold should've said he was talking about Muslims. Nonetheless, this is the right way to explain Islam. In a world where far right leaders in Italy, Germany and France are actively cowering before the construction of Sunni/Shia Mosques, I think the west needs every kind of flaming cave man opinions on islam. You can also manipulate Sunni sects and empower some to be more obedient of Israel's expansionist ambitions. For example, a salafi would rather pray than arm Hamas, so even though they're as bigoted as the other Ashari' Sects, they are really dumb when they think their fatwas declaring prayer as a sufficicient final solution for Palestine.
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A few days ago, Billionaire Asmongold sparked immediate backlash from cancel culture when he said sharia law is made from an "inferior culture". He fully captured the essence of a typical believer of sharia. Strangely enough, he left out the unhealthy fanaticism that sharia law lovers have of themselves. Instead, he went on a racist tirade about Palestinians and used Saudi Arabia as an excuse for why Palestinians are the way that they are.
Asmongold's statements (all true):
"People who have genocide that's baked into their laws, are getting genocided. These people are not your allies; they are not the same as us."
"It (Sharia Law) kills people for their identity."
There's no equity in Sharia Law, there's only strict rules and regulations on every aspect of human behavior. There's no religious pluralism in Sharia Law, there's only Islam as the sole champion of morality and public policy.
Remember that your average Salafi jurist in your american/german/italian/spanish neighborhood isn't studying your nation's poetry and tradition, he's likely hammering away at thousands of fatwa books in his western home.
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@WyIted
Cowards or perhaps the option is death or obeying.
Christian dhimmis only make around 1% of the population in most muslim countries, but they make tv appearances regularly. I found a show in indonesia shamelessly broadcasting how their resident christians love being ruled under Sharia. They even testify live on tv about how sharia lets them pray. In addition, with some tweaking, I also found a similar show broadcasting the same type of drivel in Egypt.
Christian Dhimmis are the same as a Muslim Kuffar in my opinion. Ilhan Omar may drink cocktails and shake hands with a man, but as long as that creature sanitize muhammad, she and the dhimmis remain disgusting to me. The least that a Kuffar can do is disown muhammad, and the least that a dhimmi can do is write hidden written testimonies about how dangerous a sharia-led lifestyle is. That's exactly what happened in Ottoman Armenia. Christian brides refusing to speak in favor islam so much so they even devote considerable time to bury themselves with the cross.
Poverty isn't an excuse. As I understand it, Armenia wasn't a powerhouse like Austria was and it had a terrible track record in resisting Ottoman Supremacy. Still, Christians did well there not to shove fuel to the fire by being a disgusting Sharia spokeswoman.
They are probably hypocrites but not necessarily so. Perhaps they see Israel as the lesser of 2 evils or perhaps they think it's in America or whatever nation they are it's best interest to support Israel. I won't judge then too harshly.
Well said.
Yes, one of the things that has made me start considering what version of Christianity to follow is Jesus's statement to judge a tree by the fruit it bears and though ai am not catholic or orthodox, I am co sideline converting for that reason though I want to dig deeper into Constantine before I do
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@WyIted
So, i want to ask you a few things.
What do you think about christian dhimmis who willingly accept Sharia law and christian protestants who willingly support israel? In your opinion, are they hypocrites for holding these positions?
In your opinion, is Christianity a force for good?
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@WyIted
...However atheistic Jews have an issue of promoting stuff like open borders, homesexuality, etc. And are always at the forefront of any large social push for degeneracy. They for example are the biggest producers of porn, they help produce gangster rap and they have taken control of many institutions.
I'm not well versed in demographics and their political tendencies. I've only ever read stuff like Milton, Pascal, Anselm, Aquinas and others. I'm a bit too hermit-like, but okay, I do hear you.
Theistic Jews I can give a pass to but the atheistic ones are harming society and Islams critiques if the social decay that has accompanied this are fair.
Whether it's fair for the Quran to stereotype jews is up for debate. I've had christian friends in singapore visit israel and i imagine they'd take an interest into something like that. I've never had an interest, and i'll just leave it as that.
What I'm trying to say is Islam's limited understanding of Judaism is obvious. Muslims await the last and final coming of Allah's prophesy: destroying the jews. There is no greater command than this, because almost all of the prophesies are fulfilled, no matter how ridiculous they sound.
For example, Clerics will cite quranic verses about how Jews love proclaiming that they are peacemakers, when in fact they kill Gaza children willingly. In certain passages, Jews will also love to shoot muslims from afar, yet Jews claim truce falsely. These acts of betrayal prompted Allah to send countless amounts of prophets to remind them, until so much so that an inert stone could utter curses on jews. These types of prophesies are already ticked off a typical muslim's checklist. What I'm trying to say is that the origins of said prophesies are stupid. It's like saying the sun rises only to worship Allah tomorrow, and the sun is also a large piece of boiling rotten apple to remind us that adam had betrayed god by eating the forbidden fruit. Both are pretty stupid, but the claim of it being a rotten apple is an even stupid and ridiculous position.
Muhammad was high on war and sex. He made these prophesies around the same time his "soft jihad" (preaching without war) failed to convince the surrounding jews and christians. He was offended, and then proceeded to do stupid things like "the jews will betray you" etc etc.
Congrats on your recent conversion to Christianity by the way. I probably would have phrased my earlier responses differently had I known of it. I thought I was talking to an atheist and did not want my points to be missed by presupposing Christianity as true in our communications
Oh, I see that, I'm curious now.
Well, I was an atheist, and straddled the two competing lines a bit for some time, but I'm finally in Christianity for the long haul.
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@WyIted
I think the solution is probably for people with Western values to unite under Christian values, probably orthodoxy or catholicism so you can go to war with Islam under the banner of religious freedom...Until Islam is wiped out you can't really unite secular people... I think sensible atheists...it's why you have people...cultural Christians.My sister was a hardcore liberal until she got into the church and it wrecked part of her mind but made another part of her mind more sensible...think of power vacuums...Neither ideology is prepared to deal with the spread and threat of radical Islam....I think that once again it is just going to take Christians to beat back this threat and then we can worry about transitioning people to rationalism after the threat is taken care of, or we can just look at Christianity as a necessary evil that's existence stops the spread of the woke mind virus and keeps radical Islam in check.
Christianity isn't a necessary evil omg wow but i think that's another topic.
I do agree that cultural christians are most likely aware of the threat of Islam. I'm sure you have ideas but you could also follow in the footsteps of history. Satellite vassal states of Wallachia, Armenia and parts of Austria had their unique methods when the then Ottoman Empire initiated massive conversion programs. Christian brides were married to muslim men in massive numbers, but most retained their love for Jesus when they were buried. Some had even bribed funeral officials to avoid ottoman oversight. Austria also, at the time, enlisted huge numbers of austrian actors and they offered generous pay on conditions of hosting weekly entertainment theatre about how disgusting Muhammad was. They wrote poetry, songs and plays which parodied Muhammad's life as a sexual rapist, slaver and over-analytical narcissist.
It's interesting you describe it this way, but honestly it seems more true than you may realize. The book of revelation speaks of a one world religion. It speaks of beheading Christians who essentially opt out of paying jizya.I can see a lot of similarities to the religion and the one world religion prophesied
Well, the Quran also prophesized correctly Jews' attempt at improving their standing on the international stage. It also talked about Jews' attempt at peacemaking and firing from afar.
Even though the prophesies are true, the only reason Islam has not delivered any punishment on the jews or christians is because...
Allah doesn't exist, and Muhamamd was a paedophile.
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@WyIted
There is another overlooked downside. You and me are familiar enough with the Quran to know it is a bigoted book. However there is a decent sized minority of Muslims who don't realize it, and I wonder if pointing it out to these Muslims who are unaware would backfire and instead of turning them away from Islam They just lean into fundamentalist beliefs and become dangerous.
Well, I don't know the average western person because I'm a recent convert of christianity, so I'm not sure how i can help. But, I think you already know this and some of your colleagues may not, and I think places like america has a mixture of many diverse cultures. So i'm referring to all of them, not just your political allies. I'm also referring to dumb moderate muslims who are eager to sacrifice for democracy but retain some sort of love to Muhammad.
All of them need to understand that Kuffars sanitize and promote the vile teachings of Muhammad. They sanitize themselves of the abuse Islam has had on the world, and project themselves as some sort of a peaceful moderate. Taymiyyah himself had confronted the Mongolian War Lord and accused him publicly of being a Kuffar. This isn't a topic that should be explored, it is a topic already solved by the Ulama. Kuffars existed ever since Muhammad existed. It has religious and historical precedent. Muslim scholars from Indonesia, Malaysia and Brunei have all concluded the same thing about being a Kuffar, and their mid-east partners from Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan have acknowledged their conclusions to be authentic and true. An American muslim man from indonesia differs little from an American muslim man from saudi arabia. They may both attend parties and acknowledge Biden to be president, but they are deviants awaiting potential instruction from a charismatic cleric.
Every Kuffar need to renounce their belief in muhammad completely, and stop popularizing stuff like Inshallah and Wallahi in their TikToks. Islam should be treated in the same dust bin as Nazism. I never had any sympathy as a kid when i heard that allies relentlessly bombed cities of Nazi Germany, because i know they were responsible for Hitler's initial ascent to power. Islam hasn't a reformation in its entire 1500+ rule on earth, and as soon as those moderate muslims get backlash, they'll turn to Muhammad and start chanting curses on jews.
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@WyIted
The far right is gaining ground but they are still outsiders. It is a battle for the soul of Europe. Today's vs of liberalism is suicidal...The Overton window is just not in a place...Israel has Muslims in their military...
The far right is supposed to project itself from a position of strength. I'm not a political guy, but I'm pretty sure any observer would conclude that political junkies come in all shapes and sizes. Advocating for limited immigration and raising retirement age are all policies that could only work if your prime minister is a literal cave man. That's who Netanyahu is suppsoed to be. In a list of far right leaders, he's probably the lowest among them because he can't even defend israel properly. Gaza isn't europe and it's been a whole year with no end in sight for the small town. It is literally Jeddah in Saudi Arabia and it doesn't take long to travel all over it.
Israel made a calculative mistake in using Hamas as an excuse. In executing bigoted and hateful extremist (moderate, fringe & radical Sunni) muslim civilians, they've popularized Hamas' standing on the international stage. Netanyahu isn't a socialist or whatever so I think he is supposed to be a violent cave man. He should've declared war on islam from the beginning. If he did, muslims would still do the same thing they've always been doing: hating on jews. And, the west wouldn't look up to Hamas as a potential comparison. It is baffling that your average far-right leadership is cowering to Islam.
Le Penn did the same thing in France. In counties she controls, she funded mosques for Sunni Traditionalists.
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@FLRW
Therefore we should exterminate them? FLRW with the one liners. Dang I remember when polytheist went crazy and you'd reply with random stats lmao
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@Lemming
You said that civilian deaths are unavoidable, and that there should be appropriate deterrence in responding to hostage kidnapping. As I understand it, you seem like you've acknowledged the official death toll, and if so, how would you consider innocent human beings (esp. children) in a war zone? Clearly the videos that you see weren't altered.
For context, Islam commands children to be fully obedient of their mothers/fathers. They are told not to question their parents, especially if their parents are sharia-observing muslims. Fathers sympathizing with Hamas/Hezbollah could still use this justification and turn their children as human shields, and as fodder to israeli airstrikes because it would make their children the martyrs of Islam. To be a matyr is no easy feat, there's only a few things that can occur to you that makes you a permanent guest list on Allah's heaven. For instance, a building collapsing is a guaranteed way to ensure your status as a martyr. To fight and die for Islam, even if the children lie in pain and agony, is also a guaranteed sign of martyrdom.
Entering into Allah's paradise filled with virgin women of pearl skin lmao could easily be blocked if you owe $1 in debt and that person has not forgiven you. A martyr is literally the quickest ticket to heaven.
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@WyIted
They have a million Muslims within their borders I believe and so it's not a good ideal especially for democratically elected leaders. Plus the war with the ideology is more for believers of other religions and atheists.
Aren't the far right gaining more ground in european elections? Any political mastermind should've considered the possibility of being the ultimate "savior of western civilization". The insraelis can claim that title right now by declaring war on Islam. That's positive PR. The fact that israel is exercising restraint makes me think that Netanyahu is a coward. He literally won a recent election, he should just start saying Islam is a dirty barbaric black hole.
Just so I'm clear, I don't have a problem with barbaric ideologies. At their primitive core, they're only ideas. But, I do despise muslims openly declaring these beliefs as the best of all plans, as if Allah had commanded the curse and downfall of every Kafir. Every muslim today have cited verses of the Quran that eloquently details the hypocrisy of the Jews. They literally say Jews are openly at war with Islam. There's countless amounts of dua (ritual after-prayer events) cursing Jews and Israel. It's baffling that Israel is exercising restraint with a literal satanic cult.
It's the game . I grew up in the ghetto and noticed this game of claiming peaceful and victimized while simultaneously... A few groups play this Game...After October 7thh attack on Israeli citizens, before Israel had a chance to respond. They were already calling it genocide...
Interesting past. Okay but you have the admit, none of the gangs you've interacted with are sanctioned by the state. Am i supposed to believe biden is behind those gang ethos? I don't think he'd stoop to that level.
On the other hand, Islam has legitimized this tactic and allowed its practitioners to turn their communities into ethnostates. For example, medieval sharifs of the Umayyads dominated every marketplace with a heavy preference toward arabs, and they routinely arranged riots to torture religious minorities. It's the exact modern day equivalent of abusing your idonesian maid and indian construction worker for not being "muslim enough".
The "game" would've been harmless if islam had only around 100 believers. Islam will remain influential, and as soon as I see a dumb muslim with a beard calling for jihad, I'll still continue to hate and cheer on the demise of muslims. I'd spare children, since they're innocent beings, but not the women or men. They're both imbeciles and i don't care what activists say. I'm not being racist, I'm only being a jerk to Islam's cult. The most heinous of ideas would only harm you if they start grouping up and calling for brutality and violence.
On a personal note. I am sorry you personally had to deal with fundamentalists. I know you love some of these fundamentalists and it must be very tough. My sister is one and it's not as tough for me to deal with her given her respect for me, but it is a struggle watching how her children are raised. They are well fed and loved, but the chains on their minds is heart breaking. This is why I intentionally corrupt her youngest child. Her older child kind of needs the chains TBH so I leave her alone.
I appreciate your words. I don't often see a person with good reason and logic. Just so you know, Gen Alphas are perhaps the most restricted of all the living generations. Your niece may not see it, but as she grows up, she'll realize she's being cornered by her mother and that's when your influence will start improving her life.
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I think christians have declined throughout the middle east, but not for conversion reasons. Most have sought refuge elsewhere, and have successfully travelled to the west.
Muslims believe in conversions called "Jihad Love", a doctrine imposed by muslims (originated from Muhammad) to make sure Abrahamic religions adopt Muhammad's view. At Khaybar, Muhammad had sex with dozens of jews and converted them to Islam through marriage pacts. He bestowed lofty titles on his spouses and claimed that they came from Allah. In modern times, Hamas's parade of israeli prisoners was no different than what Muhammad dreamt, and the only reason they stopped short of raping entire groups of israeli prisoners was because they had a loftier political goal in mind that could end Israel. Israeli prisoners are NOT DHIMMIS, so muslims are technically allowed to rape and enslave them just as Muhammad did.
Christians have reason to cheer, as I have, for any decline in islam. It is a cruel and barbaric religion, steeped in fanaticism and brutality. The only disappointment i have with israel is that it didn't explicitly declare war on islam. Perhaps the children can be spared, I'd grant that. But I refuse any amount of mercy on muslim adults. They've cheered for the stoning of minorities, execution of apostates and forced conversion of dhimmis through marriage scams and financial benefits.
Moderate modern muslims, including christian dhimmis, whom i equally despise even though their demographics fall within 1% of muslim countries have enabled the spread of muhammad's violent interpretation of monotheism, and their decision to enroll clerics in high positions of power often led to nationwide banning of western literature.
Nobody should be surprised to see Hezbollah in positions of power. Muslims can't claim they're peaceful in the same breath as cheering and advocating for the execution of lifestyles which they deem unfit.
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@WyIted
Are you talking about the owner or the moderators?
Aren't they the same thing for debateart?
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I had this yesterday. For comparison, this kind of server quality is indonesia-level access. Kind of sad to see a drop in quality.
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@Best.Korea
Heh, its not really about amount of attention, but just saying how I feel I guess.
words to live by
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Not really. The GF is smarter than me in philosophy, though i do have an advantage in theology but that's only because of my work. I think the best and easiest way to overcomethese biases is to find friends of the opposite sex. Hang out with them regularly and you'll realize your brain has rewired itself without your conscious decision.
Works for me.
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Congrats. I think i remember you when i first came to the site, and I think lawyer is a nice career to have. I don't believe in luck, so I'll just say have fun!
May your loyal friends sustain you and your hard-earned wealth rewards you!
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@Stephen
At least Islam tells its adherents that they will be getting 70 virgins to keep them occupied. Although, they won't be virgins for long, will they? And it makes no mention of what the women will be getting to keep them occupied for eternity?
LOL. You can't use logic (treated loosely). Using logic is haram. Muhammad wants this as a benefit for you, so you can acknowledge the truthfulness of virgins (according to muslims). It is justice (according to only them too).
"We should acknowledge that Allah brings people of falsehood back to the truth so that they can benefit. This is justice, instead of what some ignorant (westerners) do, when they see a person persisting upon falsehood, they supplicate against him."
~ Shaykh ibn 'Uthaymin
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@TheUnderdog
Okay have fun. See you in a year when you're a millionaire!
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@FLRW
I'm guessing ebuc is more complex than most women.
LMAO. +1 MILLION
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@WyIted
... I do try to avoid my wife. She knows what she signed up for.
LMAO. I don't know why but this is funny to a second language speaker like me
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@Best.Korea
I barely even leave the house. I hate being around people due to their low IQ. I am simply not interested in talking nonsense which they want to be talked.
Spend time at a library. Find a dusty old book, and read it.
Have fun.
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@WyIted
I am sure that the radical Muslims...
They are not radical. They subscribe to Ashari and Atharis. That's at least 95% of all the population in the muslim world. And NORMAL muslims (radical,moderate, fringe) are right in suggesting that they are the closest to Muhammad's teachings. All other weirdos (Yazidi, Ahmadi) are heretical and have abandoned Muhammad. That makes them further away from the prophet, but it also makes them less influential among muslim circles.
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@ebuc
I have not missed it; I just didn't understand it. To be honeest, i only fully read your post because it reminded me to read the incredibly dense work of Anselm. Your post also encourages me to abandon worthless things, like contemporary stuff about travel, food and tradition. Not exactly what you expect, but I'll take whatever encouragement i get to read abandoned treatises.
Cheers to you and your work.
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Some examples of western values:
- Abortion legalization
- LGBT pride parades
- Drag queen story hour
- Medicare for all
- Free college
- Secularism/Anti Theocracy
- Well funded public schools
This is a good list. I will note that medicare must include organ donations for it to be "anti-islamic", and education must include kafir ideas. If all of what you're doing is haram in islam, you're on a good track to defend western civilization. The muslim world will hate you for opposing Asharis and Atharis. But here's a relatively recent example of muslims refusing to study anything western-related (in an indirect, yet very malicious way):
Teraweeh includes open fasting (which involves the action of opening your fast with sweet foods before feasting), and includes various prayers of praise on Muhammad and/or his family (depending on your sect). A teraweeh is then held at the end of isha, a creation cannonized by Muhammad's companion and arab supremacist, King Uthman.
To date, nothing in islam encourages the spread of western literature. If the British Library hosts hypothetical events like Shakespeare Week or Dante's Inferno Night, muslims are not encouraged to read them. Muslims will do as they are told; they will conduct their fast, praise muhammad and spent 2 hours praying Teraweeh. The British library hosts thousands of poetry and literature, and all of it will go unread because Teraweeh is a dedication to Muhammad, and an attempt to differentiate the kafir from the muslim. Essentially, it's a colonization in the form of islam.
Do you remember the dusty and unopened treatises in your local library? All of it will remain unread because they were all kafirs who took on habits which Muhammad hates.
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@Best.Korea
Fair enough. My parents were possessive over their animals. If i remember correctly, they weren't keen on sending them to a vet. But I think I cleaned my animals following human hygiene standards, and that probably contributed a bit to their stress level, which allowed parasites to thrive. Although they were clean on the outside, they were still dirty on the inside. Shows you what I know i guess.
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@FLRW
Trump's cognitive decline is from all the Botox he gets. Results show that botox may severely limit cognitive-emotional responses to others' emotions, especially stronger emotions such as anger. This leads to the conclusion that Botox injections may inhibit emotional connections to others.
Interesting. I've always wondered why my exes act like Satan sometimes.
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Saw Furries supporting Trump. I guess the world is really diversifying itself
So much for diversity.
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The only bad thing with animals is that they stink. It's even worse when you clean them because parasites would crawl all over you . I could still smell the cow that my family had when I was a child. It was disgusting.
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Lies to all the strangers that I meet irl. Because I like providing false first impressions.
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@zedvictor4
I will always believe in my friends. Friends are underrated. Just because someone likes to tease strangers and laugh at them doesn't give them the right to define friendship in their own vain image. If someone is socially popular, that doesn't make their understanding of friendship less valid than someone like me. If they're constantly engulfed in social etiquette instead of actually connecting with their friends, then that's their loss.
But, I can feel where you're coming from. And I don't believe in comparisons. Comparisons are pretty silly in most cases.
I'd say you should love your family.
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@zedvictor4
I was always taught that one makes friends ("deep connections") when one is young, and acquaintances when one is older....Though these days I only really have "deep connections" to my immediate family.
I've only made friends after my apostasy. And, I believe this is more dependent on where you are. I've had friends who are married to expats and they had no love for their own family. I see it as a joke to consider that there's a "deep connection" with family. My male relative made sexual comments when i was 6th, and he had black marks on his head (in islamic societies, it's a stereotype for the religious because they kept on prostrating). There's also physical abuse by father, and mother's verbal bashing. Their crimes are too long to list. I have no sympathy for her and if i visit her grave, I'd pee on her grave than say anything to her. No offence to your generation (and this isn't directed towards you), but I find it incredibly stupid to ride or die with family. It's definitely something my family expects of me, as they had grown accustomed to installing hunger strikes and physical lashes. According to them, I was "choosing a life outside of islam".
I am not alone in this. I know i parade myself as a rebel to impress my gf but I had had some childhood islamist friends who liberalized themselves through overseas study. There's a distiguished scholar working in Cambridge (you can pretty much search her and her obvious East Asia skin will give away her indonesian heritage), and although she still covers her hair even after she married an expat, she also said to me that she only confided in her partner and friends about the abuse she endured during her women-only Tahfiz (it's a religious middle/high school where western things are banned). There was an rape in her hostel. It was one of the imams. She knew her family would believe none of her problems.
Even if you believe none of my anecdotes, rich princesses are also doing the same thing. Which is why ebuc is correct, though I'm not referring to the event he and others are currently engulfed in. Anyway, here's one credible source:
The Dubai Princess had help from her friends. It wasn't her father that helped her. It was her friend who worked as her gym instructor.
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@ebuc
All the more reason to cultivate one's own unique interest instead of hearing about what's actually appropriate or balanced.
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