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Let's look at three similar scenarios: Jim Jones and his cult, David Koresh and his cult and Jesus Christ and his cult.
Upon his death, Jones was responsible for the death of nearly 1000 people, Koresh took around 70 with him and Christ was responsible for the death of thousands of persecuted Christians by the time he grasped a couple of 6 inch nails; not to mention the millions of people who suffered and died in his name afterwards.

Each of these three charismatic charlatans claimed to be the son of God and preached pretty much the same things to their naive, gullible followers. So, how should we judge these self-proclaimed leaders of society?

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Every year approximately nine million children under the age of five-years-old die.

That's about 1000 per hour and most of those children's parents will be praying right now for God to spare their lives.

Surely a God who can either do nothing to help these children or just doesn't care is either impotent or just plain, outright evil.


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.....on which day did God create fossils?
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1) How do you have your hair cut? (Leviticus 19:27 You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard.)

2) How well done do you enjoy your steak? (Leviticus 19:26 Do not eat any meat with the blood still in it)

3) Would you or do you have any tattoos on your body? (Leviticus 19:28 Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord)

4) Do you condone homosexuality? (Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination)

5) Do you often pick cherries?
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Father: Son, I see by your report card here that you are the absolute bottom of the class once again. What the heck anyway, that is no real indicator of your intelligence and there are flaws in the system so don't worry. What's on at school tomorrow?

Son: Aw weow Dad, wear gonna disgust Hairy Potta in English clarse.

Father: I don't think so, I will write a note excusing you from class. What other subjects do you have.

Son: Oh yeah weow wear gonna do science clarse and learn about Ever lootion and biol........

Father: .......Not going to happen. I'll write another note excusing you from that class as well. 

Son: I fink I will go wotch the TV now. There's a dok....doc...documenatry by Neal Grassy Tyson and then there's Family Guy.
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Perhaps we could build a 100% natural, faith healing hospital ....we could call it "The Holy Hospital of Kindness".

 * Instead of operating theatres we will have prayer rooms.
 * Instead of professional doctors, nurses, and surgeons, we'll have naturopaths, chiropractors, and acupuncturists.
 * Instead of drugs we will have holy water.
 * And of course, we would need to erect a morgue that's larger than the hospital itself.


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The Museum of the Bible announced recently that at least five of its Dead Sea Scrolls, among the most valuable and historically significant items in its collection, are fakes. 

Does it make any difference, since the information contained in all the scrolls is fake anyway?

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Given that children will regrettably be exposed to biased religion in their lives wouldn't it be fair that their schooling should include lessons in countering such misinformation?

Also, given that research has shown the IQ of theists is lower than that of normal people, wouldn't it be in the best interests of educators to ensure that children receive a balanced education without the limitations to learning that religion imposes?

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The debate over religion has always been contentious, which is understandable since there is always one side in particular that will not look at the facts and what is logical and reasonable. Following are a few reasoned, logical facts that we should consider:


Creation:
Unless you have been living on another planet for the past 100 years you would know that any notion of life having been created has been completely been kiboshed owing to the irrefutable and overwhelming evidence that life evolved through natural selection.

Nobody can prove God doesn't exist:
A completely absurd proposition to infer that this gives even an ounce of viability or credibility to the existence of God.

We don't yet have the technology to prove God:
Probably the most hollow and deceptive delaying tactic used by theists and will, of course, be used forever and a day. We can assume however that since theists know we don't yet have the technology, they must know what technology is required and are frantically working hard to develop it.

You have to believe/have faith:
The good old warm and fuzzy, we're special and you don't understand excuse. Belief and faith do not make god exist and are merely euphemisms for delusion.

We have always believed in God so there must be some truth in it:
"We" haven't always believed such nonsense; only the superstitious, naive and gullible have ever fallen for the fallacy. Others who say they believe, use religion as a tool to gain power and influence others.

It doesn't hurt to believe just in case God is real:
I'm sure that if there is a God that is all-powerful, omnipotent and knowing, he would see straight through that sort of false front.

Something must have given us a soul and consciousness:
There are no such things as souls or consciousnesses except as metaphors to describe certain characteristics of brain functions.


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It has been done before. There will always be some colorful charlatan who comes out of the woodwork to suck in a bunch of naive, gullible followers to believe and do exactly what he tells them. 

For example, we have seen the likes of Jim Jones and David Koresh who did more than their fair share of damage to society. Both shared the same characteristics; charismatic, narcissistic,  controlling and self-righteous. Each claimed to be the son of God. Yet, each of them offered a life of purity and an afterlife of bliss to their impressionable disciples and flocks.

In each case, the leaders (plus a heaping helping of their followers) met with a sticky and gruesome ending. What's the bet that oh, let's say, three hundred years from now, a bunch of hermits; outcasts from town, find a bunch of old Time magazines scrunched up like a scroll in their cave. One edition (November 1978) just so happens to depict the Jonestown massacre. The hermits go to a Greek publisher to tidy up the text a bit and print something that sounds a lot nicer.

The publisher says, "Hey guys, I think we're onto something here. Lets make this into a story of righteousness and everything that is good and sell it off as a blueprint for everyone to live by. Nobody can check on the authenticity since three hundred years have passed and, gee wiz, there are plenty of suckers out there who will believe it anyway. I reckon this book could make it onto the number one best sellers list."
The question is, could this happen?
After all, this has been done before.

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As we know, the story of the immaculate conception starts off with a messenger of God propositioning a young virgin bride to be by telling her that "the Boss" has an overwhelming desire to inseminate her.

To which she naturally says "No". But then, she is asked a second time to submit to the request. Again, she makes it quite clear that the answer is "No".
Mary was then given an ultimatum that she had better do as she is told because it is the "Boss" and the "Boss" is going to be not happy otherwise. The rest is Biblical history of course....a perfect baby who doesn't cry for some reason, is born.

Now, considering the barbaric and uncivilized ways that were rife in those times let's just fast-forward to today's more genteel and sensitive new-age society. Picture this; a young lady goes to work one day, oh and she just happens to be a virgin and engaged to her boyfriend. A colleague comes up to her and says, "Hey, the Boss wants you in his office right now. He is going to get you pregnant". The lady, of course, refuses the invitation and says "No" yet the colleague says it again....."Come on now, you know you want to do it for the Boss, now do it". She again refuses the request by saying "No" in no uncertain way at which time the colleague states, "Listen, read my lips. Get into the boss's office right now or you will suffer the consequences". The rest is history and the reluctant mother gives birth nine months later. Now, in this scenario, what legal term would we give to the act which took place in the Boss's office and what word, starting with the same letter would we legally call the boss? And, what is the meaning of the word "No"?


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Take a look at dolphins. Really cute and inquisitive creatures that have an obvious affection and affinity with us humans. And that infectious never-ending smile on their dials shows that they are infinitely happy-go-lucky creatures.

But, wait a minute. Did you know that dolphins rank upon one of the ugliest, vial and cruel predators ever to swim the oceans? They commonly reproduce by means of the males of the species roaming around in packs gang-raping the females, often causing severe wounds or death. They also often "play" with infant dolphins like football, again, causing grisly fatal injuries. And, forget about that so-called "smile"....that just so happens to be the default biological shape of their mouths which of course, belies their cruel, bullish nature. Like any other animal that sucks up to humans, dolphins are after only one thing.....food. In any case it has been known that dolphins have frequently made vicious attacks on humans. So, could this be a case whereby we could do without such a lecherous, inharmonious species?

Whales on the other hand, are quite placid creatures that go about their daily business of feeding and reproducing without harming anyone. But then, so are cows and bulls, yet we breed, torture, bondage and slaughter them by the millions every year for beef and dairy products.
Think about it. Whale hunting was a big industry and many countries were built up on the trade of the many biproducts from whales; meat in many forms, fuel, medical potions, cosmetics. And all from one animal. Perhaps animal rights activists and blubber-huggers should take note that for every one hundred and fifty cattle we slaughter we only need to harpoon one whale to get the same yield. Worth thinking about; and we don't need to take up so much land and use so much fertilizers raising cattle that contribute more than cars to global warming due to methane emissions. Whales could be responsibly farmed in the ocean and be processed humanely and far more efficiently than the bovine alternative.

So, should we be doing the right thing and get rid of undesirable, cruel species (dolphins) and adopt more reasonable methods of farming protein and countless more biproducts (whales)? As for me, well, I'm going to hoe down into healthy bowl of miso with whale sushi and fried blubber puffs and watch a retro-series of Flipper on TV.
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After all, ninety-nine years old is no big deal nowadays so we can't just blindly write off the death of such a figure as simply being due to "old age" can we? Especially given that he had the best resources and lifestyle of anyone in the world to live longer.

And, there were many motives for any number of people to want Philip knocked off his perch. We could start with his wife for example. The Queen had to endure a whole marriage of infidelity from her second fiddle and there is evidence of spousal violence from her majesty; it is well recorded that she had a penchant for demolishing pieces of fine bone china over Philip's skull.

And what about those frequent bouts of illness and hospitalization of Philip over the past few years. Such a regimen is consistent with someone having been poisoned with cyanide or arsenic whereby toxins build up in the body over time and causing bouts of illness after each dose....only saying.

We also have to look at the fact that it was only 2 months until Philip would have turned 100. Now that is a coincidence that we should not ignore.

So, what about other parties that would have wanted to end the reign of his highness. Philip was known for his undiplomatic slips of the tongue and his undercurrent of racism and bigotry. Some time back, when greeting an Australian Aboriginal in one of the usual after function line-ups, he made the comment, "Where's your spear?" That indigenous guy had every reason to throw a boomerang in the direction of his highness, without the intention of it returning either. Of course, the palace would keep quiet about the fact that the royal surgeons would have spent hours removing v-shaped splinters of gumtree from the fatally wounded prince's brain.

Will we ever get to know the truth?
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