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@Analgesic.Spectre
That doesn't give you the right to claim that they don't -- both claims have a BoP.
Yes it does and no, they do not. In a court of law, only the claimant holds the burden of proof. The defendant (i.e. me) can make whatever claims he likes in his own defence.
Anyway, Wikipedia is a good start for this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence.
This is not evidence that Jews have a superior IQ. This is a blind link drop. It is furthermore a blind link drop which concerns only one denomination of Jews (i.e. Ashkenazis), which are not Semites. The Ashkenazis are descended genetically from paganite Greeks and Iranians who converted to the religion of Judaism as recently as 2,000 years ago. There is absolutely no genetic relationship between them and the original Israeli Jews. See:-
Most of the world's modern Jewish population, as well as the Yiddish language, come from Turkey and not other parts of the Middle East, according to a new study.
Dr Eran Elhaik of the University of Sheffield used a computer modelling system to convert Ashkenazi Jewish DNA - the Jewish communities historically located in Europe - data into geographical information, which revealed that 90 percent of Ashkenazi Jews descend from the Greeks, Iranians and others who colonised northern Anatolia (now northern Turkey) more than 2,000 years ago before converting to Judaism.
Hence, at best you are making an argument that Greeks have superior intelligence, and are falsely attributing that to "Jews".
54% of World Chess Champions are Jews- 37% of National Medal of Science recipients are Jews- 29% of U.S. Nobel Peace Prizes are Jews (despite being 2% of the population: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States))- 42% of Nobel laureates in medicine or physiology are Jews
You are flagrantly attempting to conflate correlation with causation. Conservatives do this all the time when they break down crime statistics on the basis of race. Here are some of my own statistics:-
80% of World Chess Champions have blue eyes.
96% of Germans have two legs.
Therefore, if we continue your patent intellectual sophism, people with blue eyes are more intelligent and having two legs makes you German.
Obviously, this is a fallacy, as is the implication that your own statistics evidence Jews have superior intelligence. They do not. Multiple more plausible explanations exist, such as Jews enjoying greater economic privilege than non-Jews. The reason you don't see many geniuses coming out of Africa and winning science prizes is because they are too busy looking for things to eat. not because they are somehow less intelligent than geniuses from elsewhere.
Since you have resorted to fallacy to support your absurd initial claim, I will consider that to be your concession that you are wrong.
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@Analgesic.Spectre
Oh, I see. You're a troll. Well, firstly let's "address the fact" that you made a wild claim that "Jews have a superior IQ". You provided no evidence to support this claim, nor did you provide any evidence to support its connotations (i.e. that Jews are a biological race). Hence, the "claims" you accuse me of making are actually my responses to your own initial unsupported claim. In other words, YOU ARE TURNING THE FACTS UPSIDE DOWN. Quite literally.
Now, let's take a look at the rest of your untruthful nonsense shall we, Mr Trolly McTrollson? You further claim:-
"It didn't take me long to find what I suspect to be the problem:"
Which is false, because it took you several hours. After which you cherry-picked three lines from the study and purposefully used them outside of their intended context. The context of the study is given away largely by its title, which is: "Genetic markers cannot determine Jewish descent". Of course, genetic markers can determine with great ease Negroid, Caucasian and Mongoloid descent, because all of those classifications are genuine human sub-races. You further claim:-
"The study claims that the concept of "race" can't be used to classify groups in a meaningful, biological way."
Which is disproved merely by what you yourself quoted, since you swapped the words biological and meaningful around to create your own amended version of the text. You then claim:-
"Of course they're going to have a hard time determining race, when they don't believe in the concept to begin with."
Which is a straw man argument of your own devising. Nowhere in the study does the author claim he does not believe in the concept of race. Hence, you are continuously making false assertion after false assertion. Next you claim:-
"There are countless studies that can be used to differentiate subspecies (or race) for a plethora of animals"
Which as far as I can tell has absolutely no relevance to the fact that "there is no Jewish genotype". Next:-
"This appears to be a covert 'there is greater variation within than between' argument, which has been debunked to death."
I have no idea what this even means and I strongly suspect neither do you. You are merely inventing your own fallacious gobbldegook language which you are using as a springboard for yet more false claims. Finally:-
"If you genuinely agree with their claim here, I can write a thread debunking the claim."
You are derailing the topic. Prove your claim that Jews have a superior IQ or stfu, you fallacious halfwit.
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@Analgesic.Spectre
Spectre. I think you need to learn how burden of proof works buddy. You were the one who made the claim, so you are the one who needs to cite the sources. The only claim I made is that Jews are not a race, which is evidenced here:-
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@Analgesic.Spectre
Jews don't have a superior IQ. Don't be ridiculous. Recent research in genetics has entirely debunked the myth that Jews are a race (something which was predicated on the Biblical account of the Exodus being true). Judaism is a religion from the dark ages, not a racial group. Believing in a religion from the dark ages doesn't make you smart.
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It was definitely discovered. This is proven by the existence of fundamental constants in physics, for example the universal equation for gravity. Wherever you go in the universe this equation will still work. There might be infinite ways to express the equation, but the equation itself -- and hence the relationship between the symbols used to express it -- is always going to be the same.
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