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@Stephen
Yes, well, I call bullshite on that.
On what? That you remind me of my brother or that I wasn't trying to prove anything?
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@Benjamin
Okay, so we both agree that God could easily arrange for us all to go to heaven by our free will. If he does do that then it doesn't matter what happens here on earth. But if he doesn't do that it means that he wants some people to go to hell. And he probably wants to find out who to send there by looking at what happens here on earth.
I don't think the whole idea of life on Earth was so he could cast people into hell. The Bible mentions that that hell was created for the devil and his angels. If they are trying to follow the devil and become his messenger, then they would choose hell, not God.
The whole idea was so he could have a bride in heaven, someone to willfully choose him over their own ideas or the pull of evil. You really have a sad way of looking at things.
By the way, if you believe that even heathen cannibals can go to heaven, how do you justify that anyone not named Hitler could go to hell?
I didn't say that cannibal heathens go to heaven. I said that my theory is if the heathens would follow the code given, then they would be rewarded somehow. I did not say they would go to heaven. I told you that I do not really know what will happen to them due to our conversation above, BUT I do know where you and I will go if we refuse his word.
Also keep in mind that God uses our conscience as a gauge also. Per the passage below, he will be able to guide them by their conscience some way, so I do not think the heathen or gentiles get off scott-free and go to heaven. I would not know what the afterlife would bring for them, but I'm sure their conscience would tell them eating people is bad, just like you wouldn't people.
Romans 2:14-15
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
I do believe Hitler is in hell, but I also believe that people who constantly try to dismiss the word of God so they can try to look smarter than God with "what if" questions that nobody really knows the answer to, instead of actually following the Bible which will become real when followed, are in hell too.
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@Benjamin
All humans would choose to accept Jesus if they got to experience hell even for a second. Therefore, God could save every single human by putting them in hell for one second, then pull them out and explain his gospel. All of them would understand God's just wrath as well as his love and mercy, and would freely choose to accept Jesus as their lord and saviour. So if God wanted it, hell would be empty. Or maybe God is too stupid to think of a simple solution like that.
True. God could also had just made everybody love him as soon as they are born instead of throwing them through this obstacle course called "life". God could anything he wanted to start life and what he considered right or wrong, BUT we are given the word of God and a conscience and a commandment to obey, not question his ways since we are too stupid to figure it all out. I'm not sure why God is blamed when we are so limited in our own understanding.
Again. You live in the rainforrest and you follow the chief. You defeat an enemy in war and proceed to eat them. You then pray to false gods and go to sleep.Are you saying that any of these people get into heaven?
I am saying that the Bible requires us to be born again. Obviously the Amazonian tribes are not born again, especially just after the church started. So if the new requirement for all the world is to be born again with Jesus, then no they would not enter heaven. BUT Paul does preach on Mars hill about how people worshipped their own gods and that had "winked" at that, meaning allowed to a certain extent, or put up with. So what is to say that those same tribes are not under the same kind of "winking" until they are presented with the gospel? I don't think they would go to heaven per say like a true Christian, but I don't think they would go to hell for ignorance and God would make a way for them to choose him somehow. I DON'T KNOW HOW. . . All I am saying is that God has more ability than what we can dream up with and for us to try to put God in a box is ridiculous. Again, since I am not an Amazonian tribesman, I am held to a greater standard to be born again since the word of God is preached so freely here and most of the known world.
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@Stephen
So are you going to start a another thread telling us how great, good, just, caring and loving god is?
If you really want to spout off about how much you hate God, but everybody already knows this about you. I already told you that I just wanted to see your views and others because I have never been told that God was "bad" and had always been shown as good and just and such. I've had atheists tell me that God doesn't exist but never that the God of the Bible was bad or corrupt. It was an interesting thread to say the least, but I didn't try to "prove" anything. The thread was only so you could spout your views and I had a few questions regarding it. I said before, you remind me of my brother, so it is interesting to hear your views, whether they are correct or not.
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@Stephen
Something else you've learned from me.
Ah. Never fails to inspire.
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@zedvictor4
@Mall
And dogs cannot do anything wrong because they are not programmed to.
Mall, I would agree with Zed on this one. Animals do not have morals or consciousness. They are trained to be aggressive or brutal. That is why we sue the owner of that dog and not the dog itself.
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@Stephen
Ooh! He comes out swinging!
I like your ways Stephen! I do admire your abilities to think critically and I have actually learned a lot from you. If it seems that I attack you it is only because you are a prick.
You never answered the Monica thing.
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@Benjamin
You say I split hairs but there is an important difference. The soul can carry your personality into heaven and enter a perfect spiritual body or whatever you believe. But you do not receive your personality at conception, you get molded into your personality by your DNA and the people you surround yourself by. A fetus cannot have a personality, even if it had a soul.
I see what you are saying now. I agree that a personality will be molded from it's environment, BUT I also believe that is not the only factor. I have a few kids and they all have the same parents, the same upbringing, the same home, the same rules, the same everything EXCEPT birth order. (I know birth order will play a role too). Each one of those kids has a different way they see things, different way they respond, etc. So, I do think their personality is acquired at birth but also it can be shaped through their experiences.
I am simply showing the implications of your idea. If you believe that an aborted soul gets assigned to another zygote, then that means there are either 2 souls in said zygote, or the original soul has to be removed or simply never been created to begin with. I didn't mean "fired" literally.
I see. You are saying that if a soul is created at conception, then the baby aborted later, the soul would then be transferred to another conception, which should already have received it's soul from conception. Now, therefore, 2 in one. The one from conception, the other from the transfer. I guess then the soul would have to be assigned after conception.
Acts 4:12 “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” There is no other name given under heaven to which mankind can be saved than the name of Jesus Christ. Only Jesus can save. He has overcome sins and the power of darkness.
This is correct and without getting too deep into Christian doctrine, there is no other name given is referring to baptism. (Acts 2:38) The name must be applied to our lives.
So far, Christians have made first contact with thousands of tribes and cultures. None of them believed in Jahweh or Jesus prior to meeting missionaries. Why should the amazon tribes be any different. Maybe you mean that Acts 4:12 is untrue.Okay, that is what you meant. Well then, let us assume that you can be saved without believing in Jesus specifically. Must you be a monotheist? That raises many of the same problems. Again, there is no way for primitive tribes to deduce monotheism based only on nature. They had their own creation myths and their own gods.
Acts 4:12 is always true, but God had always made exceptions. The thief on the cross was to be with Jesus in paradise, without the Mosaic law or even without baptism. So can God do whatever he wants? Abraham believed God and he(God) counted it to Abraham as righteousness. Abraham was "saved" without the Mosaic law and the New Testament new birth. We have no other record of God working in other cultures than what we have in the Bible, BUT that doesn't mean that God didn't give those cultures a way of salvation.
This is irrelevant. One cannot be saved by works alone, so nobody can be saved by following the law, not even a good law.
This is actually very relevant. If works saved no one, then no one was saved until Jesus was resurrected and the Spirit of God poured out on the day of Pentecost. I do not believe that God let mankind be sent to hell until the start of the new testament church. Look at Enoch before the flood. His story is that he pleased God, without the law, without the blood of Jesus and he was taken by God. If the plan of God was ONLY the blood of Jesus, then a vast percentage of the Earth's population would be hell-bound and almost all without hope. Why would God do that?
Really? So you believe that worshipping false Gods piously and following the chief is sufficient for salvation? Is that a valid way to interpret the Bible?
It is obvious that idolatry is a sin, but it is also obvious that God loved his creation, so much so to come down and become the ultimate sacrifice in our stead. (Not trying to preachy) So to say that it is "sufficient for salvation" would be in error. I'm saying there was probably a code given to every culture to follow and God would honor to an extent, but at a certain point every man will be given an opportunity to serve God or not.
Again, we don't know the mind of God and I agree that thinking a small group of people in and around Jerusalem would be the only ones saved after the resurrection would be heartless and contrary to biblical definition of God.
I just know that I'm not in that arena and I am to obey the Bible the commandments that I am taught, not shake my fist at God when I don't understand his ways and how they would apply to others.
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@Stephen
Where, just like that dulcet dunce the Reverend Tradesecret, you appear to have failed too. You never did finish that conversation but simply deserted it. Would you like to take it up again now you are back and refreshed with your new double Z monica?
Ah, the ever so angry Stephen who is mad at God for some reason and will never reveal it. Then goes on to state how the Bible is foolish but will believe silly fables like the alien theory of our origins. LOL!
For the record, I AM NOT Tradesecret and you are really ignorant to come up with that idea. If it was made as a stab to me to identify me as him, then touché, as I think tradesecret doesn't really know what the Bible says either.
And I did mess up my other account with only one Z. If you must know, it was from a work computer because I was bored one day and wanted stimulating conversation with other people who thought different than me. I have since lost that login since I no longer work there. So I made a new one with my own credentials since I enjoyed this site so much.
Now, to answer your question of the goodness of God thread, no, I don't wish to pursue it since it was just a thread to see what you thought, not to argue that God is good or not. I can see your point of view from what you stated and I still think you are wrong. Coming from the way you answer certain posts, I see that you are angry at God and want to destroy anything about him in your mind. You don't believe in him and so you try to use any way to discount his existence. To each his own, I guess.
BTW, the "monica" reference, is that a UK thing or were thinking that that's my name?
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@Benjamin
He does excactly this for people that lived in the Amazon Rainforest or some obscure island and never heard about Jesus. Well according to the Bible at least.You will maybe bring up general revelation. But explain to me how an uneducated tribe with no writing system or philosophy degree is going to deduce monotheism.
You know this for sure? If you read this Bible you claim to know, then you would know that he calls all men everywhere to repent. He has a way to reach the amazon tribes. Just because you never heard of it, doesn't mean it never happens.
Also, he has different demands for different people. I do not believe that the nation of Israel was the only "good" people in the old testament. Look at different stories from the Bible and how he judged certain nations. How can one be judged if they are given a law to abide by? There was a general law of righteousness given in ancient times. Look at Hammurabi and how his law was very similar to the Mosaic law. Look at the story of Jonah and how he was sent to the heathen nation of Nineveh to repent and they knew what Jonah was referring to and repented.
I don't know what the afterlife will bring for all people. I DO know what it will be for ME if I decide to blatantly ignore his word with silly questions and to justify my actions due to my ignorance of how God works. Most of the American people, if not all, have heard of the Bible and God. WE are without excuse. I would give the Amazonian tribe a lot more slack than any of us.
Personality is not supernatural, only an emergent property of the physical. It is a word to describe the patterns our brains have formed about how to think, feel and act.
Split the hairs here Benjamin, but my point is the soul is the person that lives on. Whether you think it's supernatural or not is beyond the point.
But that means that the original soul would need to be fired. Also, if a soul can just connect to another body then they are all interchangeable.
Wow. You really created a lot of laws here by yourself. Good work! A soul needs to be fired? They are all interchangeable? Who says there is not a God assigning souls to bodies?
That is the point. The concept of children and the idea of justified hell are not compatible without tons of extrabiblical speculation.
I see your point in this comment and I will say that I will have the Bible to help be a roadmap to life, but the Bible does not answer every idle question that we can come up with. We are not smarter than God because we have a "gotcha" question that no Christian can answer. We are simply instructed to obey.
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@Benjamin
The Bible does explain what happens to every single human being: they go to hell, unless they accept the gospel.
True, but in this case we are referring to the children that do have the ability to choose to accept. So that is why this is a grey area according to the Bible. I do believe that God will send people to hell who reject him and will give eternal judgement to the devil and his "angels". But how can God pour judgement on something that is cannot choose to be a devil's angel?
That has two interpretations. 1. You would still call it justice if God tortured infants for all eternity. 2. You believe God would never do something like that, because he is just.
Good point and let me clarify. Since there is no clear answer to our discussion Biblically, I believe that God would work a way for that infant to receive "salvation" one way or another. He would show mercy, somehow, I just don't know what would actually happen. I do not think that God would just say "Oh well! Into hell you go!"
But since the fetus hasn't developed any personality traits or conscious memories, so it still has the default soul. To say that the soul is reincarnated has the same effect as saying it never received. The end result either way is that 2 fetuses are born, but only one of them grows up, and only one soul goes to heaven or hell.
Again, let me define what I mean. I suppose there is a lot of interpretation of what is and is not a soul. I would say that a man is made up of 3 parts, body, soul and spirit. We all know what a body is, the spirit is the life inside that man, and the soul is the "forever" part of that man and the personality. The soul would be the thing that would be required of God and the thing that would be judged right or wrong. The body is temporal as it will turn back to dust (decompose) and the spirit will leave and go back to God from whence it came when the man dies, but the soul will live on. SO, in saying all that, it would make sense to me that as a child is born, it receives it's soul (personality) and spirit (breath of life) and if that infant dies, the soul can be "assigned" to another body.
Again, all of this is only my take on this with a little Bible reference. So this is all speculation on my part.
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@Tradesecret
I think there are enough things in the Bible to indicate that God is good and holy. And just.
I hope I didn't indicate that there was no Bible for God being Holy and just. I was referring to the idea of where children go without the ability to choose.
I don't believe in reincarnation.
Neither do I, as in live your life and then do better or worse in a next life. But God can do anything and as for a child who does not have the ability to choose or reject God, I would assume that would put them in a position that they could then choose to reject or accept him. I don't think that the infant would recognize this, but if a soul is eternal and the body temporal, then why would God not allow that soul a chance like he did you or me?
Again, just my opinion. No Bible for any of that.
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@IlDiavolo
If Texas does succeed, then it would be self sufficient on its own. It has access to the ocean, oil and it's own power grid. A little mini-country to be sure. Possibly the whole SE sector of the USA would go with it to create it's own country and watch as the Blue USA implodes since it needs hard working conservatives to pay for it's lavish life style and government programs and supports bums, homeless, and a welfare society.
The problem for Texas to leave the union would not be the loss of 40 votes for Trump, it would be that the remainder would have to fight for oil since Texas produces about 3 times as much oil than the next leading state, New Mexico.
So I hope the electric car really does kick off in the rest of America since the idea of gasoline will be an idea of the past.
Oh, and they should throw out Ted Cruz when they do succeed. That guy is a sham.
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@Best.Korea
I was raised on video games since the 90's. I still think the NES games are the best.
But one of my favorites was Final Fantasy 7, the original on PS1. Also the SNES Zelda - Link to the past and N64 Zelda Ocarina of time. I also enjoyed Grandia on PS1.
Ooh! and the adventure games from old like Space Quest and King's Quest series. Loved those!!
The newer games where never a turn on to me. I think they focused too much on animation and not game play.
I think the best games have character development in it as well as the list you gave. I have to immerse myself in a fantasy world when I am playing. The whole point of a video game is to make the player feel he is the main character, saving the world, saving the princess, etc and identifying with or as the main character.
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@Dr.Franklin
@Statichead
what are your thoughts on the holocaust and how Jews have been discriminated against for centuries?
Not sure if this question was only Dr. Franklin, but I wanted to throw in my two cents.
It seems the Jews get blamed for a lot of things. During the black death in medieval Europe, they were also blamed for that too. The burning of Rome was blamed on Jews and Christians alike. I have heard it told that there are a few reasons:
1. The devil doesn't like God's people and is trying to eradicate them as much as possible.
2. When the crucifixion of Jesus happened, they said "let his blood be upon us and our children." Not sure if that refers to future generations or just their immediate children they would father.
I couldn't tell what the real reason is, but there seems to be a trend of people wanting to whoop up on them.
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@ludofl3x
Cranky makes sense. :)
Doing pretty good. Had a little job trouble recently, so I just ventured out on my own. Seems to be going well.
As for serious discussion, it's hard to discuss anything when it comes to the type of some of the people on here. It's like having a battle of wits against unarmed men.
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@ludofl3x
Caught me! I was going for amazingly sly disguise like the Clark Kent glasses.
Actually, I don't have access to my old sign in email and account, so I created a new to see if the heads at Debate Art can help me salvage my old account. If not, then this will be my new sign in.
How have you been my friend?
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@FLRW
Why do you change your picture so much? I think I noticed 3 changes since I logged in this morning.
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@Tradesecret
@Benjamin
There is no biblical reference in what happens to infants' souls when they die.
There is tons of speculation of what would happen and it usually comes with a narrative that helps the certain parents cope with the death of their own baby or miscarriage. This is also reinforced with some sort of biblical passage to back up their claim.
With that said, no Christian knows what does or does not happen to babies aborted, new born deaths or children deaths.
At some point in age, the person will be responsible for their own actions, but there is also no Bible directive for that age either.
It is unknown and since no baby or fetus has come back to life to tell of theirs tortures or heavenly experiences, we Christians can only know that God is just in his ways.
My personal belief is that God takes the soul of that fetus or infant and give it another chance elsewhere. Again, no bible on this, just my theory. Good as any I guess.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
@Best.Korea
The government should not print a single more dollar for businesses, for other countries or for our country. Printing money will dilute the dollar, therefore helping increasing inflation.
Not the banks
Not the automobile manufacturers
Not the oil companies
Not the businesses that are "too big to fail"
NOTHING
To go to a tax free society in one day would be disastrous, but I think the income tax, Medicare and social security should either be greatly reduced or removed altogether. We need create a society where people are responsible for their actions not rely on the government to take care of them, but take their future into their own hands and not the hands of the slimy government.
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@ludofl3x
@TheUnderdog
... lucky lady who takes pity on you ...
LOL!
From what I recall, Underdog is not very old, so therefore not very well versed in life. Go easy.
He'll get his clock cleaned by women soon enough.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Republican judgesThe Republican Senate LeaderNumerous Republican House members like Paul Ryan, Liz Cheney, and John Bohner.Military leaders who Trump picked to work for him.His former White House lawyers
ATTN: All college indoctrinated persons (this means you IWRA)
All more the point to say that the swamp doesn't want Trump in. If you don't want him in office, YOU are part of that swamp. You heard what happened to Kari Lake right?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
@IwantRooseveltagain
except for President
Brilliant!
But you’re a nobody loser
Maybe to you, who loves chaos and destroying America. To someone of your caliber, I'm glad I do not inspire any type of favor.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
So that’s why so many of the Republicans who once worked for Trump, including 4 high ranking generals, are saying he is unfit?
I think you are unfit for this website. So how much does anyone's opinion hold? Let's look at results.
Why did so many of Trumps inner circle either resign, get fired or get indicted?
I told you. "Six ways to Sunday".
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@sadolite
But, for anything in particular? Because you are a certain religion or race? Or is it just that they just don't like anyone but their own kind?
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@Stephen
I shall flag your problem for you concerning your two accounts. I hope it helps.
Cool! Thanks!
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@Stephen
I bugged Barney and he said to email and message Debateart.com.
Maybe Whiteflame could help too.
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@Stephen
I wasn't planning on keeping this account, but made it to only get ahold of the moderators. Basically a throw away after I can get back into my original account.
BUT, if i can't salvage my old account, then I'll have to keep this one and will fill in my personal info again.
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This sounds like a speech from Andrew Tate. LOL!
Did someone hack his account?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
What do you think when you see MAGA MORON Kari Lake on TV?
This hits a little close to home for me since Kari Lake is running for Senate in AZ, my state. She was bribed to NOT RUN in our state. This just shows the swamp's attitude towards real patriots.
If Trump doesn't like flat chested women, then that's his prerogative. Maybe that's why you can't stand him. He wouldn't love you with your "nipple on a rib" chest.
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It really does say a lot when the Democrats support tyranny like the Patriot Act.
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” Benjamin Franklin
Well said Uncle Ben.
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@Stephen
Get what put together?
Lol. Apparently, my thoughts!
I meant the two accounts. I can't get back into my old account so I created a new one and I'm trying to get access to my old account or see if DART can merge the two accounts somehow. I emailed them about 5 days ago and just waiting to hear back.
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@Greyparrot
@oromagi
@IwantRooseveltagain
If you say so, loser"professional Trump"
You guys are too much! :)
I would say that GP views are not anti-American as much as it is Anti-establishment and more pro-liberty. Pro-liberty though has it boundaries and since lib-tards want to destroy every boundary we have, including the American southern border, he is also against the leftist way. GP is a real patriot.
There has been a "swamp" attitude in our politics for decades and Trump, who is not an angel himself, revealed a lot of it while in office. The rats in DC hate him because of this and now are making a lot of politically motivated court moves, including the defamation case.
EVERY politician has dirt on them or can be indicted for something. This time Trump has made the establishment mad and they are going to make him pay in every way possible. Remember the words of the Senate leader Schumer "You take on the intelligence community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you"
They are now getting back at him with court cases, media reels, twitter knock outs, "fact-checks", etc.
Really, if you can't see this obvious pay-back against Trump, you really have drank the Kool-aide.
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@sadolite
Like I said, no matter who wins, I am still considered scum of the earth and would be killed by either side if they had the power to do so.
Curious to know why you made this statement. Why do you feel this way?
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@Stephen
He is me. I lost access to that account and I'm trying to get it put together with this one.
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@Stephen
Still, lets not derail this thread concerning Pascal and his pointless Wager.
Sorry! LOL
Thanks for the info.
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@Best.Korea
I will concede to say that my posts are not an argument to your standards.
So to try to be more compliant to your standards:
1. Argument must have facts as premises, not assumptions as premises.
This is completely arbitrary, meaning I can bring whatever I want as "facts". I would state that my experience is the most fact that I can bring in, but in your opinion, what can be considered a fact in this argument? Science study? Some guy's book and his notes? Do they have to have a degree? Please define.
2. Your argument must explain why spanking is a better option than any other punishment.
I will clarify that spanking is not THE BEST option in every situation. It is necessary in some situations. You seem to think that parents that spank are hauling off and beating their children for every infraction.
3. Your argument must not be based on specific fantasy cases which you assume exist, but overall cases of spanking which are supported by statistics and data.
Again, arbitrary. My experiences and books I have read make my words the best statistics and data I have ever accumulated.
So now typing all of this, I believe you are grasping at straws for a fight that I cannot bring. So I'll just leave this here, that your OP comment about us not believing science is ignorant and coming from a non-parent like you, makes it sound very silly. All the data that I don't and do bring will be useless unless you know how it is applied.
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@Stephen
His books are extremely interesting and fall in line with many of my own opinions, ideas, theories and thoughts built up over the years. I happen to be re-reading some of his early material at the moment: When Time Began & End Of Days.But like anything, one either chooses to believe or doesn't.
I have only browsed one of his books years ago. I don't remember which one it was but he claimed it was from some Sumerian tablets that he found and translated about the beginnings of the Earth humans. Started off with some sort of competition on another planet, the main guy lost and jumped into his space ship and flew away and eventually found Earth.
Are there some of his books you recommend for a beginner of his writings?
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@Best.Korea
One case of abuse justifies another?Since you are not presenting any arguments for spanking, I dont see what is it that you are looking for here.
My point is that you state any kind of spanking as abuse. I'm saying that you are ignorant in thinking that spanking of any kind is abuse and that a corrective action, whether its words, grounding or spanking will help a child in helping them learn rules and how to obey authority.
It seems that spanking get a bad rap for a few reasons:
1. It physically hurts while other way options don't get the physical sting or pain
2. It can turn VERY abusive and such abuse can be covered by "discipline"
3. It's biblical
Have you considered that any type of discipline can be abusive when brought out of context or brought to extremes? Why only spanking?
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@Best.Korea
Having children is immoral, so best parents are indeed the ones who never have children.
Kind of a catch 22 here. If you have no children, then you are not a parent.
The cool thing about people like you is that you will never propagate your ideas through a new generation.
Since you mentioned your children and how you beat them, therefore personal example, personal attack would also be warranted, but you are new to the site, so I will pass on the personal attack opportunity.
Attack on. :) But referring to me beating my children is ignorant on your part. What is your definition of "spanking" and how does that translate into "beating"? I thought I got got whooped pretty bad when I was a kid when my dad would belt me 3 times for bad behavior until I met the guy that would get 20 or 30 at one time when he was a kid.
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@Best.Korea
There are plenty of punishments which are not spanking nor words nor yelling.
I agree. I was stating there are other options besides spanking. Like I said, spanking should not be your first course of punishment.
Now to talk about your original post:
Child spankers are the group of people in society that rejects all science and statistics about spanking, and goes against them.
On the contrary, real "child spankers" read the science to make a proper judgement about how and when to spank your child.
It seems to me that you are confusing discipline with abuse.
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@Stephen
Do Christians themselves even consider that they may have been praying to the "wrong god" for over 2000 years? Considering that the bible clearly explains that the earth was divided between the gods with each to rule over his/her "portion" and where by they took it in turns to be ruler over the other gods at the end of the "age"?
Stephen, I read some of your posts that you linked. The Sumerian culture is very interesting.
Have you read the books by Zecharia Sitchin? I'm curious to know what you think of his books.
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Ah. Usually, I find the best parents are the ones with no children. All theory and no experience.
I am a "child spanker". There is actually a lot that goes into spanking a child. As a parent, you have to use spanking as a last resort and only after they understand that the punishment for disobeying will be the spanking. Words work well when they care about what you say.
It also depends on the child. I have one that will nearly cry when I scold them. I have another that will endure the scolding as long as they get what they wanted, regardless if it's against the rules. Most times, a spanking to this one will do the trick, BUT only after I know they understand they are disobeying or doing something wrong.
A lashing out from a parent is not "spanking" a child. That is an angry out burst. It can turn into abuse. That type of response is all about how the parent feels, not about the betterment of the child. Spanking should always be with the mind of how the child will improve with the consequence of his/her actions.
Just my two cents. I go along with the Hebrew proverb "Spare the rod, spoil the child."
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@Best.Korea
Quick question on this BK (and to others responding to this topic), do you have children?
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