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@n8nrgmi
why aren't non-gun murders wildly out of control in the usa?
When someone says the word "murder", I'm pretty sure it's referencing a situation which one would perceive as wildly out of control.
Is there a polite way to murder someone? I suppose there might be some exceptions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMz7JBRbmNo
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@Theweakeredge
What kind of church do you prefer, and what do you think of the one(s) you were generally raised with?
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@Dr.Franklin
Foreign Affairs Committee, Robert Menendez (D-NJ), introduced a measure to sanction Russia for the alleged bounties.
Thanks.
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@Double_R
You can't seriously claim that you don't care about the skin color and be the only person in the room talking about skin color. The statement above is false.“I don’t care about skin color” doesn’t mean “I don’t see color”.
I've heard people say "I don't see color" before and I thought it made them sound stupid lol.
It means that their race/ethnicity doesn’t matter to me
Good, that would make me happy. The way you were talking before would have made you less attractive to people who might actually have an impact on your livelihood.
So if for example, they are infected with COVID, I look at them no differently than I would anyone else who is infected with COVID.
I can't tell...Are "they" illegal immigrants, or the "brown people" (legal and illegal)?
Just because someone isn’t talking about skin color doesn’t mean it isn’t largely driving their position. Politicians and right wing TV hosts literally make a living appealing to racists in a way that can be denied because they don’t use the magic words that give it away.
Well yeah, it's their job to relate to all sorts of people, and really there's nothing magic about something that's plainly understood. The reason these political figures can deny racism is because they're not speaking in that way. Historically, when a region flips Republican it tends to coincide with a reduction in racism.
In this regard, I don't think one has to be overly concerned of 'racism' based merely on whether policies have a disparate impact with respect to race. That in itself tells you next to nothing as to the motivation of the policy maker. In certain areas I might even be more concerned of racism if they didn't, since disparate outcomes are exactly what you should expect between families who've established themselves in different ways over different time frames, handed down different elements of culture, entered different sectors of the economy, settled in different geographic regions etc... That would just be an atmosphere of insanity if it were considered normal to associate every policy with a group of people we don't like, who happen to approve of it or not. As long as we don't partake in something incredibly stupid, then society should continue to heal.
I don't care that they are brown, that's the point. So because I don’t care that they are brown, my concerns about them carrying COVID don’t change, unlike the many (that you seem to be defending) that never expressed any concerns about COVID until finding out that some illegals were carrying it.You can't seriously claim that you don't care about the skin color and be the only person in the room talking about skin color. The statement above is false.You and you alone said this "So the same people who will pack themselves into indoor spaces without masks are the same people who are all of a sudden worried about COVID once it’s carried in by brown people." and this "No, anyone who, for example, doesn’t give a rat’s ass about COVID until it’s being carried in by brown people, is probably a bigot."Of course, where there's "brown" that's also contrasted with "white" to your way of thinking. I'm not trying to change your mind on this. Whether they say so or not, the people you interact with are going to understand that you do care on some level, and I can't say I'd blame you for not wanting to discuss that in public.Not wanting to discuss what in public?
I think in context, the sentence structure is not so unclear. You just have to ask, what does the subject care about?
Recall, In this context, most everyone is referencing the illegality of being somewhere one has no legal right to be. You were expressly focused on skin tone.
And why would I not want to discuss my views exactly?
I've talked to people who make baseless accusations of racism, privately. Everyone is different.
If you don’t believe they should be set free, then argue that they shouldn’t be set free. But don’t pretend that because some portion of them (that is no higher in percentage than the general US population) are testing positive that all of sudden this is a public health issue.If you take issue with me bringing race into the equation, then instead of “I’m rubber and your glue” enlighten me as to what the concern is here and why it’s a concern now when it hasn’t been one for the past yearObviously illegal immigrants must have started changing colors around the time Joe Biden took office. There's no other possible explanation.Or, the people spouting off about this are just bigots who don’t like Mexicans. Any others?
Well, illegal immigrants from Mexico are still just as Mexican as they were last year so logically speaking, I don't think that's the case here.
Did you ever read through the entirety of my first post to you in this thread?
No, anyone who, for example, doesn’t give a rat’s ass about COVID until it’s being carried in by brown people, is probably a bigot.Without trying to understand someone, we wouldn't know if people care about the president's policy on immigration because some of the illegal immigrants happen to have brownish skin tone, or some other line of reasoning that isn't insultingly stupid. You and I only know that you care that some of the immigrants happen to be brown.I was referencing the right wing talking point that the Biden administration is allowing COVID infected migrants into “our” communities. Yet the people complaining about this are the same people who think lockdowns, mask mandates, and social distancing guidelines are government tyranny. So the same people who will pack themselves into indoor spaces without masks are the same people who are all of a sudden worried about COVID once it’s carried in by brown people. It’s absurdly transparent.Or maybe they think the people who aren't citizens do not enjoy the full benefit of a government that was instituted to serve the interest of it's own citizens.Or anything else...I noticed that you happened to introduce the concept of race initially when responding to a statement about language.Trust me, you wouldn't think for a second about sharing your living space with a person who doesn't speak a language you can understand.I live in the Bronx, I’m surrounded by people who speak all kinds of languages so you’ll have to excuse me if I have a difficult time understanding white bigotry.Would you care to explain how learning English is "white" in your view?
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@Double_R
No, anyone who, for example, doesn’t give a rat’s ass about COVID until it’s being carried in by brown people, is probably a bigot.Without trying to understand someone, we wouldn't know if people care about the president's policy on immigration because some of the illegal immigrants happen to have brownish skin tone, or some other line of reasoning that isn't insultingly stupid. You and I only know that you care that some of the immigrants happen to be brown.I was referencing the right wing talking point that the Biden administration is allowing COVID infected migrants into “our” communities. Yet the people complaining about this are the same people who think lockdowns, mask mandates, and social distancing guidelines are government tyranny. So the same people who will pack themselves into indoor spaces without masks are the same people who are all of a sudden worried about COVID once it’s carried in by brown people. It’s absurdly transparent.Or maybe they think the people who aren't citizens do not enjoy the full benefit of a government that was instituted to serve the interest of it's own citizens.Or anything else...I noticed that you happened to introduce the concept of race initially when responding to a statement about language.Trust me, you wouldn't think for a second about sharing your living space with a person who doesn't speak a language you can understand.I live in the Bronx, I’m surrounded by people who speak all kinds of languages so you’ll have to excuse me if I have a difficult time understanding white bigotry.Would you care to explain how learning English is "white" in your view?Ah yes, the ole if you accuse someone else of being a racist then you must be a racist argument.I don’t care that they are brown, that’s the point. So because I don’t care that they are brown, my concerns about them carrying COVID don’t change, unlike the many (that you seem to be defending) that never expressed any concerns about COVID until finding out that some illegals were carrying it.If you don’t believe they should be set free, then argue that they shouldn’t be set free. But don’t pretend that because some portion of them (that is no higher in percentage than the general US population) are testing positive that all of sudden this is a public health issue.If you take issue with me bringing race into the equation, then instead of “I’m rubber and your glue” enlighten me as to what the concern is here and why it’s a concern now when it hasn’t been one for the past year.
Ah yes, the ole if you accuse someone else of being a racist then you must be a racist argument.
Huh, I thought about explaining in more explicit terms but then I just took for granted that you would try and relate to me. I recognize that someone else recently said something toward you to the effect of "the people who say bigot are usually bigots", and you need to recognize that I haven't even used the word racism or bigot. I might have very little in common with that person. If you came to the conclusion that your wording is indicative of racism, that came about of your own volition.
I'm just trying to say what I think is reasonable, and obviously the statements I'm responding to aren't in the right, but I hope not to come across offensively. If you accuse someone without evidence, that says nothing about them and something about yourself. So, like for example if Joe Biden said "poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids". Whether you agree with them or not, at least the accuser has some basis in reality to say that Joe Biden is thinking in terms of race.
Now if Joe Biden hadn't let that slip out and said "poor kids are just as bright and talented as the kids in the suburbs" and then you insinuate that Joe is really thinking to refer to whites or other races, that theory is plausible and very-well may be correct, but for the time being we can only deduce within reason that you were the one initially expressing yourself in those terms.
I don't care that they are brown, that's the point. So because I don’t care that they are brown, my concerns about them carrying COVID don’t change, unlike the many (that you seem to be defending) that never expressed any concerns about COVID until finding out that some illegals were carrying it.
You can't seriously claim that you don't care about the skin color and be the only person in the room talking about skin color. The statement above is false.
You and you alone said this "So the same people who will pack themselves into indoor spaces without masks are the same people who are all of a sudden worried about COVID once it’s carried in by brown people." and this "No, anyone who, for example, doesn’t give a rat’s ass about COVID until it’s being carried in by brown people, is probably a bigot."
Of course, where there's "brown" that's also contrasted with "white" to your way of thinking. I'm not trying to change your mind on this. Whether they say so or not, the people you interact with are going to understand that you do care on some level, and I can't say I'd blame you for not wanting to discuss that in public.
If you don’t believe they should be set free, then argue that they shouldn’t be set free. But don’t pretend that because some portion of them (that is no higher in percentage than the general US population) are testing positive that all of sudden this is a public health issue.If you take issue with me bringing race into the equation, then instead of “I’m rubber and your glue” enlighten me as to what the concern is here and why it’s a concern now when it hasn’t been one for the past year.
Obviously illegal immigrants must have started changing colors around the time Joe Biden took office. There's no other possible explanation.
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@Double_R
No, anyone who, for example, doesn’t give a rat’s ass about COVID until it’s being carried in by brown people, is probably a bigot.
Without trying to understand someone, we wouldn't know if people care about the president's policy on immigration because some of the illegal immigrants happen to have brownish skin tone, or some other line of reasoning that isn't insultingly stupid. You and I only know that you care that some of the immigrants happen to be brown.
I was referencing the right wing talking point that the Biden administration is allowing COVID infected migrants into “our” communities. Yet the people complaining about this are the same people who think lockdowns, mask mandates, and social distancing guidelines are government tyranny. So the same people who will pack themselves into indoor spaces without masks are the same people who are all of a sudden worried about COVID once it’s carried in by brown people. It’s absurdly transparent.
Or maybe they think the people who aren't citizens do not enjoy the full benefit of a government that was instituted to serve the interest of it's own citizens.
Or anything else...
I noticed that you happened to introduce the concept of race initially when responding to a statement about language.
Trust me, you wouldn't think for a second about sharing your living space with a person who doesn't speak a language you can understand.I live in the Bronx, I’m surrounded by people who speak all kinds of languages so you’ll have to excuse me if I have a difficult time understanding white bigotry.
Would you care to explain how learning English is "white" in your view?
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@n8nrgmi
i'm responding to public health science. all ya'll are the ones making it political. when i point out that a disproportionate amount of conservatives dont want the shot, idiotically, i'm only pointing out that they are making something political that isn't really political.
4 Months ago https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5106-what-do-ya-ll-think-of-the-90-effective-pfizer-vaccine
3 Months ago https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5277-proposal-a-stimulus-check-in-exchange-for-getting-vaccinated
2 Weeks ago https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/5813-half-of-gop-men-won-t-get-vaccinated-why-the-stupidity
I don't think you've brought the subject of vaccination up outside of politics since I joined this website.
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@n8nrgmi
they say only two thirds of folks want to be vaccinated, and that might not be enough to reach herd immunity.Who is "they" and what do you know about herd immunity?"they" are scientists, like fauci. the commonly cited number is three fourths or eigthy percent needing vaccinated to reach herd immunity,
66% of the population getting vaccinated in addition to 10% or more of the population naturally gaining immunity would yield approximately 3/4ths or 80%.
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@Reece101
I’m pretty sure someone talked him out of using nuclear weapons. He was then floated the idea of MOAB, probably.This is the same Trump which suggested using nukes for hurricanes or what have you.
Piers Morgan: Well the big buzz at the moment is that John Roberts and you have had a parting of the ways. You've gone from being best buddies to warring enemies.
Antonin Scalia: Who told you that?
I think I read it in some of the papers, credible sources.
Scalia: You should not believe what you read about the court in the newspapers, because the information has either been made up or it has been given to the newspapers by someone who is violating a confidence, which means that person is not reliable.
So you've had no falling out with Justice Roberts...
Scalia: No, I haven't had a falling out with Justice Roberts
Loud words exchanged?
Scalia: No
Slamming of doors?
Scalia: No
Nothing like that?
Scalia: Nothing like that
Best buddies?
Scalia: My best buddy on the court is with [Ruth] Bader Ginsburg, has always been.
Yeah, and yet you disagree with her on just about everything I'm told.
Scalia: Just about everything (smiling)
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@ebuc
..."Grasshopper powder contains 72% protein, all essential amino acids, and a balanced ratio of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids...........by 2050 food production will have to grow by more than 70% to meet Earth’s human population, but the farmland needed to produce that food won’t exist. Much will have been drowned, desertified, degraded, and chemically euthanized. The old stand-by, beating forests into farmland, will have an uphill slog to find political traction in a time when trees are a critical part of the fight against climate change."......
Any way we could move this up a bit? I prefer popcorn.
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@zedvictor4
Is Amazon the only retail outlet in the US?
I'm going to stick with books for these purposes. To give an idea of where we might shop, among small towns there would probably be a public library within reasonable driving distance, and when you get to a population size where there's a regular strip of businesses down Main Street and several thousand people to support them, a thrift store will prop up which sells used books very reasonably from wherever they might come along with whatever odds and ends might be around other businesses. Then eventually someone with a passion for it might open up their own book store that regularly introduces new material into the community. This is a small selection, but of course it's a preferable experience, the customers peruse their selection and get to deal with someone with an interest in their own community. If they do find something they like, of course it's in their hands, and they'll have it throughout the rest of their day. Now if you get into a bigger city like a well developed suburb, then some people might even invest in building a sizeable outlet like a Barnes and Noble that will bring people in on occasion from miles around, and that's pretty tough for a small book store to compete with but they can survive by finding a niche in used books and providing good customer service. However, most books sold in the US today in any of these settings are transferred through online enterprise, and electronic books are increasingly popular.
I'm in the UK and never buy through Amazon.
Without seeing an appreciation for how reliant businesses are on Amazon I kind of figured that might be the case. As one example, Americans purchase over half their books in print through Amazon, and the vast majority of E-books are downloaded from it's website. Amazon is sort of like a mall where people go to set up their store. It is THE premier marketplace, which is why people pay Amazon so they can merchandise where people are shopping and efficiently distribute their books.
Nonetheless Amazon is able to make up it's own rules of competition, and suppliers are free to supply who the wish to supply....Ergo free marketAnd most folk will grab the best deal, irrespective of politics.
Not if you, the author, can't access half the market...chances are they won't see it. Just because you aren't personally effected, doesn't mean there's not a profound effect on the market toward others, right? So, you can't really say that people are going to grab the best deal without respect to whatever motivates these decisions within Amazon, in this case having some relationship with respect to politics.
And other really good reading books are available.
Of course...
Seuss is obviously bang on trend....That's the second Seuss quote I've responded to this morning.
I mean it's in the OP here, so that's why I mentioned it. There's another point to be had as well. American artistry, and the material we produce for our kids is popular for people growing up all around the world. Having an interest in conversing with Americans is one of the reasons English continues as a global language. My family has a few Dr. Seuss books, plus it's popular in schools and public libraries, so I'm familiar with it. I guess if it's getting politicized, my gut reaction is to assume that maybe there's a group or a coalition interested in propagating their own material within the education systems that utilize it.
Dr. Seuss books took 11 of the 20 best seller spots within the last week. https://www.amazon.com/charts/2021-03-07/mostsold/fiction/ref=dp_chrtbg_dbs_1
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@Double_R
There’s context to this, but you can be forgiven if you haven’t been following right wing TV for the past few weeks.
Forgiven for what exactly? I get a lot of my news from local outlets and the onion when I relax in the morning, then when I have a little time to read I might learn about whatever I'm interested enough to look up.
Generally I have better things to do than to watch programming on television. I just listen to the major stories they put over the radio for national broadcasting.
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@Reece101
- Boring
Mildly interesting - Thoughtful OP and feedback
- That program that talks for an hour and says nothing
- Sounds like the news
- Okay, this sounds sciency - Super abstract though
- Probably an inside joke...Actually no, I was wrong.
- It's true. This is not an ad.
That's nice
- Philosophical
None of my business
- Thanks for that
- "Hay what is with the vape crisis"
- You probably don't want to know.
- It's a ****in' joint. ...Done... Don't overthink it.
- This sounds tempting...Nope.
- Looked into it...Nothing exploded
- The irony of this question!
- Earth is even older than my dad. Everyone knows that.
- Whoa! That's nice, but needs background music.
I'm over it.
Huh...
- Yeah...No, not clicking on this
- Oooh, there's puzzles???
I don't think about them at all.
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@n8nrgmi
I'm sort of considering getting this one, but really there's no reason to commit to it at this point. I don't really get sick so ordinarily getting a vaccine is something I would consider wasteful, but I have friends who saw people perish. My consideration is more about how it might bring comfort to people than a risk/reward calculus, similar to wearing a mask except that a sense of finality to this momentous occasion would extend beyond personal connections to benefit society at large.
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@zedvictor4
If a few leaders within a company can and will wipe your access to half the market across the entire nation in some petty escapade, obviously one's promotion of that behavior is NOT a principle of free markets.
Potato Head is a toy potato that you can put different eyes, hair, nose, mouth, ears, and feet on. Dr. Seuss books are used by schools and families of all sorts across the United States as they're popular for children learning how to read.
I haven't seen any conservative products mentioned yet.
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@Double_R
As if Mr. Potato Head and Dr. Seuss weren’t bad enough, yesterday Jim Jordan and Ken Buck sent a letter to Amazon demanding answers on why certain products were pulled off their website, claiming a pattern of anti conservative bias.
It's not clear if you literally think Mr. Potato Head and Doctor Seuss are a bad thing. Actually that's how the sentence structure reads, but I have a hard time believing people would take a trend like that seriously. These are things that loving parents would trust with their own children.
Cancel culture has become a right wing obsession as of late, but it’s purely a product of the free market.
Free market principle means that markets are essentially free of unfair economic privilege, monopolies, artificial scarcity or excess, that sort of thing. I'd argue that consent being a vital principle in a free market, some form of quality education is another component to include within the concept.
Do conservatives still believe in [free market principle]? If so, what exactly is supposed to be done about [promoting free markets] and why do republican politicians seem to expect that you will vote for them over this?
American conservatives likely still believe in free market principle for the most part. Some Republicans probably expect people to vote for them over it because it differentiates them from other candidates who don't believe in promoting free markets, or don't explicitly differentiate themselves as public servants in the eyes of their constituents.
Anti-Trust laws are one basic idea of what is supposed to be done about it.
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I've affiliated with the DNC since I could vote. I really want Donald Trump to run as a Democrat, and I think it would be awesome if he won the nomination.
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@Bringerofrain
Do you think there is more racism towards American Indians than blacks in the United States?
I wouldn't say that the preconceived notions people have toward members of society are necessarily racist. Even if they were, there's both positive and negative forms of racial prejudice. Then there's further complexity since prejudice is a localized issue. I don't think this is a productive way of questioning police bias, but to address you're question, I have been to settings where there isn't a locally cultivated black/white (or whatever) paradigm , but the reservation has more criminal activity than the surrounding area, and has been that way for multiple generations. As an example, I can recall a false rumor told from father to daughter about someone being found with arrows in their body when she was a young teenager. Another man gestures to the implicit fear of a "big old Indian" after he had finished discussing a shooting. On the other hand, there's another person in the high crime area who's well accustomed to interacting with trespassers. They take just a little because they're poor, and this goes on as long as they stay out of the house. Of course many will argue that violence has a relationship with drugs. The police may not talk about it, but they are exposed to the bias that society introduces to them.
I'm not sure racism gets to the heart of the matter for the profiling that's involved in some of the interactions in question. The way someone carries themselves, the way they talk, the clothes they wear...These things all communicate information, and it's taken into account within the context of the setting. In my experience, the sociocultural cues tend to have a profound impact in comparison with the biological ones between members of the same sex.
Hopefully by now I've also suggested that analyzing the problem of police bias by attempting to ascertain that one race is superior/inferior to another can fail to account for the geographic and socioeconomic distribution of the people within those populations, being divided arbitrarily to a racial construct.
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@Dr.Franklin
they were obviously ways of controlling crime before the police came around and BEFORE 1800, I am talking about the MODERN movement where it wants to defund the MODERN police
If the the more recently developed police departments are defunded, that would leave law enforcement duties up to Sheriffs, Constables, and their deputies, like in the 1800's before government councils started appointing their own police.
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@RationalMadman
- Cracker - Encountering this tells you straight off you're dealing with a racist.
- White trash - You can somewhat grow out of this status, but it indicates racism of the speaker.
- Hillbilly - Way out in the hills, not for rural folk in general, generally neutral
- Hick - Used across the US toward people out in the sticks, generally not neutral
- Redneck - Appropriated across much of US, not necessarily charged with race
- Trailer trash - Inherently insulting to one's upbringing or walk of life
- Confederate - I don't think this is a thing.
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@bmdrocks21
Generally it's a reference to people who would work under the sun all day. Whether or not it's spoken derisively could be useful information to the recipient.
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@RationalMadman
Yep, two guys back in high school were threatening me with violence bc I was saying gay marriage should be leaglized.Where I'm from, that's more like form of argument (between men) than being "canceled". You wouldn't have been ostracized for your opinions on something controversial, regardless of your social status. They would only be disrespected for being a coward, like if you reacted to the prospect of violence with a compromise of you're principles.I see. Here in 2021, thugging your opposition into silence via violence is not generally seen as accepting their freedom of speech.
I'm not sure how to explain this, but a scrap between men is a social event, not a political one. There can be restraint involved, and often a degree of mutual respect.
Generally speaking, the instigators of a fight would face some sort of social backlash. People become less sympathetic to them, and its super unattractive.
It's another matter entirely if there was some injustice involving infidelity, which would probably be more rare than in your culture.
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@Sum1hugme
Yep, two guys back in high school were threatening me with violence bc I was saying gay marriage should be leaglized.
Where I'm from, that's more like form of argument (between men) than being "canceled". You wouldn't have been ostracized for your opinions on something controversial, regardless of your social status. They would only be disrespected for being a coward, like if you reacted to the prospect of violence with a compromise of you're principles.
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@RationalMadman
Why do people think that Barack Obama deserves credit for the Affordable Care Act?Is that a question to me?
No, but thanks for asking. I'd welcome conversation from anyone willing to answer.
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Why do people think that Barack Obama deserves credit for the Affordable Care Act?
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@sadolite
OK then I 'll use that as advice on how to put food on the table, and I guess giving special attention and privileges to limited groups of people helps America and the taxpayer. Meanwhile Gas is up 50 cents a gallon, is that good?
Are you taking that from last November when the prices started going up again, or last spring when the pandemic brought prices below $2 a gallon?
Obviously a rise in price of fuel is always unpleasant. Even if you don't own a car, you're going to be impacted by goods where transport is powered by diesel engines. An increase in demand following a natural disaster may give someone mixed feelings, considering what people have weathered, but a relative price increase isn't necessarily an indicator of a failure to adapt and recover in economic terms.
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@Alec
Does anyone on this site support reparations?
The best cases for reparations are not for the descendants of slaves, trafficking victims, illegal aliens etc... There might be some people who are conceptually interested in it, but I doubt anyone goes out and supports a cause of this nature.
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@sadolite
So if anyone could list any and all policies that are helping me or the country could you please explain in detail what those policies are and how those policies are in fact helping? As a new policies are instituted you can update me on these new policies and how they are helping me or the country for the duration of Joe Biden's Presidency.
There was a pipeline in the works that's designed to transfer bitumen from Alberta to Texas refineries where it can later be sold more profitably on the global market. Halting it can help keep domestic prices down for a significant amount of Americans, particularly in the Midwest.
Additionally, the people in it's path seem to have fighting chance of persisting without the risk to their groundwater and soil.
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@Theweakeredge
Defunding and "getting rid of" are two different things, second off - there is a fundamental problem with the police system. And that's that the police department and the entire system was literally founded on slave patrols. The central concept of police is fundamentally flawed.
Which police system are you referring to?
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@RationalMadman
1st AmendmentCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The only right expressly mentioned in the first amendment is the natural right to peaceably assemble, and stemming from that a legal guarantee for those with the means to petition government. It does not allude to the idea that all speech is in accordance with truth.
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America is the only nation on the entire planet, in the history of nations and societies that ever did exist, where it is considered an 'inherent right' to speak and communicate the highest degree of vitriol and bullshit. Many Americans would go so far as to say that the most important right is the right to spread lies and incite hatred within the people, that very inevitably but technically indirectly leads to violence via hate crimes and other things such as stampeding into the White House and breaking Nancy Pelosi's name-board out of a combination of sexism (notice how they hate all female politicians) and sheer hypocritical arrogance (if the left wing did that to a right-wing politician's name-board, they'd be up in literal arms).In all nations other than America, the right to chat shit and spread abusive messages is never held above the safety of the people and serenity of national peace/harmony. The US is the only nation that has this utter nonsense engraved in its constitution as an irrevokable and unbreakable 'right' ranked above the safety and serenity of the people.
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@HistoryBuff
you are completely missing the point. Let me put it this way. If every single person in america "invested in themselves" and were able to magically have a university/college degree, do you believe that high paying jobs would magically appear?
If most everyone actually had the determination to go out and get a real college degree, there would definitely be an increase in valuable job opportunities on the horizon.
Do you think McDonalds or walmart would pay these people more? Hell no. They need people to do jobs for very little money so they can funnel more cash to their CEO and investors. These companies don't care if you invest in yourself or not. Even if every single person worked as hard as they possibly can, a large percentage of them would still be unable to earn enough to live. That is how the system is designed.
I think what would happen is that most of them would choose not to perform menial tasks at Walmart. Since Walmart is already cognizant enough to pay above the Federal minimum wage, and over the minimum wage in most states, I think it's a pretty safe bet that they'd respond to a smaller labor pool by further raising compensation for starting positions.
I don't think Walmart specifically contributes to society in the sense that a factory worker does. If there was no "Walmart", people would simply shop at 2 or more businesses on a more regular basis while we run errands, thus distributing our wealth more equitably in exchange for the same goods and services. At least some of their outlets have ridiculously good deals though. Like, you could have one of the nicer loafs of bread for a dollar or less. That's an exception to the rule, because Walmart makes it inhouse.
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@drafterman
You're argument is completely flawed. You are grouping millions of people into one group by the actions of a tiny few.Also, there were less than a million of people on Parler, so cut the "millions of snowflakes" business.
Active User Base (Rough Estimate)
Parler Twitter
Launch
August 2018 July 2006
Dec. 2018
40,000+ (famous recognition)
May 2019
100,000
June 2019
200,000 (international recognition)
June 2020 [1] March 2008 [2]
1,000,000 active 1,000,000 total (200,000+ active)
July 2020 July 2008 [3]
2,000,000 total 2,000,000 total
Nov. 2020
4,000,000 (10,000,000 total) [4]
1. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/27/parler-ceo-wants-liberal-to-join-the-pro-trump-crowd-on-the-app.html
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@sadolite
You could say you're independent to get a basic message across of where you're coming from in relation to political parties. I'm surprised it's not an option on our profile page.
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@3RU7AL
Am I the only one who's amused by the fact that Rudy thinks of himself as a knight while he lawyers?
I didn't want to say this earlier but, my first impression when I saw the video was that "trial by combat" is an emphasis that he is personally willing to put everything on the line.
That's my understanding of the historical pretext behind actual trials by combat.
They tested whether the party sincerely believes in their side of the case.
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Finally! I can't believe it took that long for people to get the theatrical reference
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@Jasmine
Are private companies and private business the same? Idk lol.
Closely held corporations can be treated differently than public companies according to the law. Both are considered a matter of private business.
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@Death23
Considering that the implication suggests Rudy Giuliani's action was more than "pretty close" to treason, it appears disingenuous not to have mentioned him. Is the focus on justice or power? I have my suspicions as well but if you're talking about a coup, it's a very serious allegation to be making. There were statements made by the president suggesting that his carefully crafted brand would be tarnished in his view, as well as multiple condemnations.
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@drafterman
You ignored the "trial by combat" part. Address that one.
"trial by combat" is a quote from Rudy Giuliani that has been inserted next to two statements implicitly attributed to Donald Trump.
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@Danielle
Google, Apple, Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook are all based out of the San Francisco Bay area of California.
This really reflects more upon their culture than it does voters, or the White House.
CNN is from Manhattan. Fox News is based in New York as well, along with MSNBC and NBC. I think ABC is largely broadcast out of Los Angeles, California.
You mentioned Beitbart. I do not personally know anyone who takes it seriously enough to admit to reading it. That company is also based out of California if I'm not mistaken.
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@HistoryBuff
I don't believe i've ever heard of a BLM domestic terrorist. I think I would have remembered them setting bombs and carrying guns... oh wait that was trump supporters.
Really, you don't remember the reporter saying how peaceful everything was while there was stuff burning in the background?
I remember one story years ago where people were armed and interacted peacefully with the national guard protecting a gas station.
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@n8nrgmi
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@n8nrgmi
I pretty much just presented facts, and I don't consider it a political entity.
Are you calling me a conservative?
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@HistoryBuff
Democrats would rather censor the views they dislike than discuss them rationally. Discuss-ting!how do you have a rational discussion with someone who wants to hang the vice president of the united states because he did what he was constitutionally required to do? That kind of thing is somewhat beyond the ability to rationally discuss.
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@ILikePie5
I'm pretty sure Twitter is banned in China. I don't know how much access they have to Parler.
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@n8nrgmi
Principle #1:
Parler will not knowingly allow itself to be used as a tool for crime, civil torts, or other unlawful acts. We will remove reported member content that a reasonable and objective observer would believe constitutes or evidences such activity. We may also remove the accounts of members who use our platform in this way.
Sometimes the law properly requires us to exclude content from our platform once it is reported to us or to our Community Jury—content we would make it a priority to exclude anyway. Obvious examples include: child sexual abuse material, content posted by or on behalf of terrorist organizations, intellectual property theft.
However, even when the law may not require us to flag or remove reported content, or to ban a member, we will nonetheless do so when we deem it necessary to prevent our services from being used by someone in the commission of a crime or civil tort—particularly when these are likely to interfere with our mission of providing a welcoming, nonpartisan Public Square. Examples include criminal solicitation, fraud, and nuisance.
Finally, while Parler allows the posting of some “Not Safe For Work” content, we provide a double-filter system to help ensure this content is viewed neither by minors nor by those who choose not to see it.
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“The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”
The use of the words “American Patriots” to describe some of his supporters is also being interpreted as support for those committing violent acts at the US Capitol.
- Some Jackass
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This is ridiculous.
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