Dear debaters, are you interested in a friendly debate about the most appropriate prostitution policy laws, talking about legalization, Nordic model and such?
It seems you two have a long lasting grudge, its not my job to pick a side or bring peace, I just want to test my opinion in an objective debate.
I have seen the previous Nordic model debate and decided to add my researched views to that topic, trying to elucidate the issue in a relatively simple and easy-to understand way and test whether there are supported counterarguments for me to consider changing my viewpoint.
I found that the debate was not well structured at the start, the two sides need to speak the same language built on the same debate principles to get a constructive debate. First of all is the arguing power to understand.
RM: can I ask that do you accept that there is a power difference between the argument types below?
1. opinion only
2. opinion with logically cohesive interpreation
3. opinion, interpretation and anecdotal evidence
4. opinion, interpretation and anecdotal evidence validated by authorities
5. opinion, interpretation and scientifically reviewed evidence
6. opinion, interpretation and statistically robust and scientific evidence
If the prostitute is not coerced due to debt, physical force, drugs, threats, poverty (e.g. he/she is a golddigger or a high end willing prostitute), then of course this law would hurt her finances. This is one side of the scale, on the other side the law protects victims of abuse. Now, we have to prioritize which we value more in the society:
A) supporting the interest of willing prostitutes, whose wellfare is not depending on the money they receive, or
B) we support victims of rape and abuse, who are coerced into this business.
Think about it as an illegal activity, in which only one side can be persecuted. Alternatively you could think of an illegal dog fight, in which the tamers and the audience is punished, but the dogs are not. It punishes the powerful actors (johns, pimps) and leaves the vulnerable actors (prostitutes) a safe route to exit or report to the police.
Dear debaters, are you interested in a friendly debate about the most appropriate prostitution policy laws, talking about legalization, Nordic model and such?
Thank you very much! Wonderful, I will ask them.
It seems you two have a long lasting grudge, its not my job to pick a side or bring peace, I just want to test my opinion in an objective debate.
I have seen the previous Nordic model debate and decided to add my researched views to that topic, trying to elucidate the issue in a relatively simple and easy-to understand way and test whether there are supported counterarguments for me to consider changing my viewpoint.
I found that the debate was not well structured at the start, the two sides need to speak the same language built on the same debate principles to get a constructive debate. First of all is the arguing power to understand.
RM: can I ask that do you accept that there is a power difference between the argument types below?
1. opinion only
2. opinion with logically cohesive interpreation
3. opinion, interpretation and anecdotal evidence
4. opinion, interpretation and anecdotal evidence validated by authorities
5. opinion, interpretation and scientifically reviewed evidence
6. opinion, interpretation and statistically robust and scientific evidence
If the prostitute is not coerced due to debt, physical force, drugs, threats, poverty (e.g. he/she is a golddigger or a high end willing prostitute), then of course this law would hurt her finances. This is one side of the scale, on the other side the law protects victims of abuse. Now, we have to prioritize which we value more in the society:
A) supporting the interest of willing prostitutes, whose wellfare is not depending on the money they receive, or
B) we support victims of rape and abuse, who are coerced into this business.
Its a choice.
Think about it as an illegal activity, in which only one side can be persecuted. Alternatively you could think of an illegal dog fight, in which the tamers and the audience is punished, but the dogs are not. It punishes the powerful actors (johns, pimps) and leaves the vulnerable actors (prostitutes) a safe route to exit or report to the police.