OH LOOK!!! Dr. Franklin cannot come up with his own words, so he has to COPY MINE when I state he is Satanic for calling Jesus a LIAR in our debate! How original and child like can Dr. Franklin be, NOT!
Yes, she was outlining her debate protocols, but TRY and use logic 101 for a change, IN OUTLINING her debate, she said what she will not do, therefore it is candy ass to Jesus' MO in the Temple, GET IT?! HELLO DR. FRANKLIN, ANYBODY HOME TODAY?! LOL!!!
OMG, you continue to remove one foot to insert the other at all times, how embarrassing for you AGAIN!
Get your pagan ass back into the DEBATE that you made specifically for me, where you are continually made the fool, you don't have time to linger in any comment section to HIDE from said debate, understood?
I am a TRUE Christian, therefore I have to accept ALL of my Judeo-Christian bible without question, where I do not hide from what is disgustingly shown at times. In the case of abortion, unfortunately my Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, caused abortions as shown within the following passages. Therefore, Jesus' inspired word is hardly pro-life, whereas I cannot put a logical spin on this biblical fact to take it away, and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath.
"The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth, or perish in the womb or never be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Isreal will bring out her children to be slaughtered. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered.. O Lord, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The Lord says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16)
"Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword; their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open." (Hosea 13:16)
As shown within the debating venue, any Christian that takes the ungodly position of stating that the earth is spherical, therefore voting against the Brother D, are deceivingly anachronistic as they slap our Jesus in the face relative to "the knowledge of the truth" of the earth being flat as proposed ad infinitum within our bible, and though out the historicity of early Christianity! These wannabe Christians will pay upon Judgment Day for sure, praise Jesus' revenge!
“If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,” (Hebrews 10:26)
YOUR QUOTE: "I promise not to be abusive, or judgemental."
Why would you take your candy-assed position when proving Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate in existing? I act within the same way my Jesus did when he was upset with the money changers in the Temple by violently over turning their tables in a very emotive way! He has set an example for us to act in the same manner. Although I do not make a whip of cords to beat the Atheists and ignorant Christians with, like our ever loving and forgiving Jesus did towards the money changers, but instead, I beat them with His inspired word within the scriptures!
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” (John 2:13-16)
As shown above, our Jesus was a man's man tough guy with a "take no prisoner" modus operandi, praise!
What are you doing HIDING in the comment section of this debate???! Listen up you minion of Satan, get your sorry Satanic a*s back into YOUR DEBATE that YOU MADE FOR ME at the following link, because I haven’t even started to show you to be the most blatant ignorant wannabe Christian fool regarding our bible and the historicity of Christianity on DebateArt, understood?
"The bible never says the earth is flat"
https://www.debateart.com/debates/972
In said debate above, I have easily bludgeoned your Devil Speak in the eyes of Jesus, therefore, you do not have the time to seek refuge in other debate comment sections like you are doing now at your expense, but to "TRY" and finish said debate, understood? Maybe? Yes?
Your ROUND 2 is running short of time for you, DO NOT RUN AWAY, or I will make sure you will never live it down, get it?
With you mentioning the following: "The earth is flat is a retarded debate," is being totally anachronistic. What is precluded today, and what was godly fact 2000-6000 years ago is black and white. You cannot deny that accent Hebrew tradition was that the earth was flat, therefore this debate is NOT retarded! Besides, you would be calling your traditional Hebrew faith a disparaging term.
Your biography is spot on with mine, praise Jesus!
YOUR QUOTE: "Given that number of abortions God performs within the bible..."
Yes, this is true for our Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate of the Triune Doctrine. This is why it is so hard for a TRUE Christian like myself to accept that Jesus performed abortions and had women ripped open to remove their fetus because He was upset with a certain faction of His creation. Sometimes I wish I was an ignorant wannabe True Christian like 99.99 percent of the Christians within this forum, where ignorance of the Bible would be totally bliss and comforting.
YOUR QUOTE: "The fact that the Bible refers to the Earth as both a circle and a four-cornered shape indicates that one or both are non-literal descriptions."
Hypotheticals are so easy to offer, to be true to form, show me BIBLICALLY where your quote above can be true in both propositions, otherwise, we throw it in the "Wishful Thinking Hypothetical Trash Bin where it belongs! I'll add you to the ever growing list here at DebateArt of Christians that deny Jesus' DIRECT WORDS shown within the Bible.
“EVERY word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5) Every word includes the words as directly given within the scriptures, with no decoder rings or insipid apologetics needed, otherwise, what Jesus said once, He could not mean for his followers to take in many different and contradicting ways! GET IT?! How shameful of you to even proffer such a Satanic quote.
Why are you wasting your time in this thread? You have a debate that YOU STARTED FOR ME at the following link:
https://www.debateart.com/debates/972
You stated that I was an idiot at the onset OF THE DEBATE THAT YOU STARTED shown above, but at this time, you are the IDIOT for spending time other than the debate above where I am easily making you the fool and a minion of Satan! Are you RUNNING AWAY again from a debate, even your own debate?
NO, I am not 21stCenturyIconoclast, although I have debated him a few times around the internet Religion forums, and I have to admit, I have used a few of his statements, words, and "periods" to extend the dialog past images from the top to bottom of a page which is a great idea. I also use some of his statements because they are appropriate to Christians like you that DO NOT follow ALL of the Bible and expect to be a Christian. Here, let me give you an example, "Dr. Franklin, you are a pseudo-christian, and I am a TRUE Christian for following ALL of our Jesus' inspired words, GET IT?"
You challenged me to YOUR DEBATE, https://www.debateart.com/debates/972, therefore, I accepted and suggest you get back into round 2 where at this time you are RUNNING AWAY from your own debate!!!
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Now, quit embarrassing yourself in front of the members of DebateArt, and get into the debate that you started shown above, because my first round in this debate of yours in only the first round of your total embarrassment here on DebateArt!!!
I have already bible-slapped you silly in the other debate upon this topic, do you need more at your expense once again? Huh? You irony is that you have turned into what you are allegedly against, and that is an OUTRIGHT TROLL by definition!
It would behoove you to sit upon the sidelines where you belong, like a little puppy tethered to a front porch, and watch the big dogs play with the inept pseudo-christians like you, where Jesus' LITERAL word will be handing Dr. Franklin's ass to him shortly, okay? You can thank me later.
Why of course I will accept your Satanic debate towards Jesus the Christ! Unfortunately for you, I will easily show you committing the UNPARDONABLE SIN, where upon your demise, you will be swimming in the burning lakes of Hell, Praise Jesus!
When the debate finishes, you will start smelling sulfur because of your blaspheme against our Savior, Jesus the Christ!
YOUR UNFORTUNATE QUOTE: "First off I'm not a kid, secondly I don't have time for your BS so stfu. Like I said I don't have to put anything on my bio to please you. I know what I am. Me not putting anything by religion is not a sin."
First thing, do not be a Troll by you using child-like epithets because Trolls are looked down upon in this forum. Secondly, putting your Christian faith into your bio should NOT be to please me, but to please Jesus the Christ! When you don't, it's like you are embarrassed about Jesus' true modus operandi as shown below, or Christianity altogether.
Remember, you are to follow Jesus' word to the fullest extent, as shown in the passage below, this includes your biography page.
"Praise the Lord! Praise God in his sanctuary; praise him in his mighty heavens! Praise him for his mighty deeds; praise him according to his excellent greatness! Praise him with trumpet sound; praise him with lute and harp! Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe! Praise him with sounding cymbals; praise him with loud clashing cymbals! ..." (Psalm 150:1-6)
YOUR QUOTE ACCEPTING THAT JESUS IS A MURDERER OF INNOCENT FETUS,’ PRAISE!: “So in this series of scripture, I read the Bible saying that violently ripping the unborn from the womb is a just and worthy retribution if their parents were considered to have rebelled against God.”
Our_Boat_is_Right, finally, you just may be a TRUE Christian like myself for admitting that our beloved Jesus, as God incarnate in the book of Hosea, is in fact, a brutal murderer of the innocent unborn! (Hosea 9: 11-16) Thank you for your honesty, praise!
In the beginning it was hard for me to accept that our Jesus was a brutal murderer, especially of innocent zygotes, fetus,’ and babies, but I finally gave in to his true modus operandi within the scriptures, because who am I to usurp the truth about our Jesus? We just have to move on with this unfortunate knowledge of our Savior the best way we can, agreed?
Don’t forget in your passages next time, that our Jesus actually went through and murdered the innocent unborn within the Ephraim woman’s womb, and if the women brought forth a child, Jesus slayed that child as well in Hosea 9:16.
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AS EXPLICITLY SHOWN, “OUR_BOAT_IS_RIGHT” AND “MYSELF” ARE ON RECORD ADMITTING THAT
OUR JESUS IS A BRUTAL MURDERER OF THE INNOCENT UNBORN!
Therefore, subjectively, who are we to be against abortion when our Jesus set an example and performed this brutal act in the book of Hosea. At least in the USA, the Family Planning Clinics won’t rip out the unborn, or actually slay them after they are born, like Jesus did in the book of Hosea, whew!
When I stated that you turned into a TROLL by its true definition, and you did not respond in kind, the only answer then is that you agreed that you have turned into a troll! Thank you for your honesty for a change. Therefore, you are against trolls as stated, but then you turned into one, this is quite an irony, isn't it?
When talking about abortion LIKE YOU DID, and with abortion being in the news of late, then why did you bring it forth knowing that it is at the head of all news casts? Therefore, you were the impetus of politically bringing abortion to the forefront! Priceless hypocrisy on your part.
SIDEBAR: You still remain eerily silent to our Yahweh/Jesus enacting abortions upon the women of Ephraim in our Jesus' book of Hosea, and slaying them if they do survive by being born outside of the womb. Are you too embarrassed, as usual, to respond to this biblical axiom? Huh?
YOUR COMMITMENT QUOTE: "you know what, fuck it, it will be a easy win anyway"
Barring the fact that you are continually showing us that you are the true definition of an internet TROLL, I am glad that your quote states that you want to debate your biblical ignorance, praise Jesus. Do you want me to set up the debate, or do you want to do it? I am trying to help you in any way that I can, because it is going to be a bloodbath at your expense! Be forewarned, I will not be holding back in showing your outright blatant ignorance of our Christianity, do you understand? Yes?
Dr. Franklin, no more RUNAWAY excuses, no more pretending that you are a Christian, no more hiding behind a faith where you are no more a Christian than an Atheist is, understood? Now, put up, or shut up in the name of Satan!
DebateArt members are now watching your decision, will you RUN AWAY, or stand ground to be made the hypocritical wannabe Christian that you are?
Dr. Franklin = the true definition of a pseudo-christian:
1. To save further embarrassment, he cannot reread his previous posts in this thread showing him rewriting Jesus LITERAL words where he wants Jesus NOT to state the earth is flat.
2. Is too SCARED to debate me upon our Jesus the Christ's LITERAL word regarding that the earth is flat.
3. Continues to RUN AWAY from our Christian faith when pushed to explain why he calls Jesus a LIAR!
4. Keeps chanting like a child the same statement, when in fact, I gave him embarrassing evidence that he refuses to address.
5. Has turned into a "parrot" to save further embarrassment regarding his ignorance pertaining to our faith
6. Has turned into a TROLL by it's true definition, which is quite the irony.
This is enough embarrassing facts about our ol' Dr. Franklin, that can no more defend our Christianity than the equally inept Our_Boat_is_Right can.
Firstly, I find it amusing that you have turned into what you're allegedly against, AND THAT IS A TROLL BY IT'S TRUE DEFINITION! LOL! Just reread your rants in your embarrassing posts for the proof of this fact!
With that being said, where have I allegedly "interjected" any religion into politics? Awaiting a cogent response this time, okay? Thank you.
Seriously, you obviously do not want to reread your ungodly posts showing you wanting to REWRITE what Jesus said literally, into what you want Jesus to say APOLOGETICALLY to save face in that Jesus promotes that the earth is flat! You will pay upon Judgment Day for sure!
May I suggest that you accept AND follow this biblical principle that explains you to the letter, to wit: “Even fools are thought wise if they keep silent, and discerning if they hold their tongues.” (Proverbs 17:28)
Barring your grasping for straws quotes in disparaging me BY YOU BEING THE TRUE DEFINITION OF A TROLL, you forgot to address your proposition of Islam murdering others that do not follow Islam, whereas, our Christian view proffers the same in the passage shown in the post in question. Why are you RUNNING AWAY from our Christianity again??? Can you give the members of this forum an answer?
YOUR QUOTE: "PLEASE GIVE ME EVIDENCE AND EVIDENCE THAT I AM LYING"
I don't know if I can give you evidence TWICE like you proposed, where only one time should suffice.
Listen, in the name of Jesus' true words, I can understand that you are somewhat disturbed in calling Jesus a LIAR in your posts, where you try in vain to state that what Jesus said LITERALLY, is not what the insidious act of APOLOGETICS meant Him to say.
Why don't you challenge me to a debate upon the topic of Jesus' LIERAL WORD! Yes? I guarantee you will have a nervous time, okay?
YOUR QUOTE: "I will refer that to bsh1 as he handles the bans. In the future, please privately PM us if you have a problem with a user."
TROLL: In internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community ..."
Relative to the definition of a Troll above, I am only responding to the inept wannabe Christian in defense of Jesus' TRUE WORDS. I cannot help it if the wannabe Christians in this thread do not like Jesus' truth, and because of this fact, they turn themselves into the true definition of a TROLL in response!
I should not be held hostage in any way whatsoever for being a TRUE Christian, where there should be no problem in representing my faith in a truthful manner whether the true Trolls by definition, the wannabe Christians as shown, like it or not. What an irony, huh?
Facetiously, I as a TRUE Christian, and you as a follower of Judaism, should be happy that I am taking on the pseudo-christian crowd in their total ignorance of their faith!
May I make a serious proposition that you should follow post haste? Please, for the sake of what face you have left within this forum, just remain upon the sidelines for a long time, okay? This will prevent you from removing one foot to insert the other, understood?
YOUR HYPOCRITICAL CHRISTIAN QUOTE: "What if I am a radical Ismalic? Should we make laws to murder people that don't agree with the Islam religion? After all, it would be going against the Islamic religion and the holy book of the Q'uran."
I hate it when the assumed Christian like you forces me to include our Jesus' inspired word equal to the Islamic Qu'ran in the context posed above!!! In doing so, I as a TRUE Christian unfortunately has to accept that our Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, proffered the same murderous acts as shown within your revealing quote. Conversely, should we make laws to murder people that don't agree with Christianity as Jesus' inspired words state below? Huh?
"If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, BUT KILL HIM. Your hand shall be the first raised to SLAY HIM; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall STONE HIM TO DEATH, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)
Do you understand why it is so hard in being a TRUE Christian in the 21st century of Satanic science, logic, and reason, let alone YOU being an hypocritical Christian?
YOUR CHRISTIAN RUN AWAY QUOTE: "This guy is a troll, he is not worth our time."
Your statement is yet another Christian excuse # 409937387495948383854-5 to RUN AWAY from the true words of Jesus the Christ!
Since you could not address Jesus' inspired words that I have included in this debate, and in the comments section, you have to run away from them to save face! Your priceless runaway is duly noted.
What you fail to realize, is that our Jesus is watching you RUN AWAY from his true words where your utter stupidity will send you to your grave!
"The Lord sees everything you do. Wherever you go, he is watching. The sins of the wicked are a trap. They get caught in the net of their own sin. They die because they have no self-control. Their utter stupidity will send them to their graves." (Proverbs 5:21-23)
Wannabe Christians are so predictable because of their outright ignorance to Jesus' faith.
Barring the fact that you are guilty of the Unpardonable Sin, and what time you have left as being a passenger of our Jesus’ created earth, pick your battles wisely next time, where you won’t be stepping in the proverbial poo all the time as being shown to be an outright hypocritical Christian, okay? You’re welcome.
Barring the FACT that you removed your child-like response to me stating “shut up,” and if in fact you are a Christian, but in name only, you should be proud to let everyone know this fact, understood? By not stating that you are an assumed Christian in your biography page, again, then you are slapping Jesus right in the face as biblically shown below:
JESUS’ INSPIRED WORD SAYS TO LET IT BE KNOWN YOU ARE TO PRAISE AND ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AT ALL TIMES:
“Praise the Lord! Praise God in his sanctuary; praise him in his mighty heavens! Praise him for his mighty deeds; praise him according to his excellent greatness! Praise him with trumpet sound; praise him with lute and harp! Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe! Praise him with sounding cymbals; praise him with loud clashing cymbals! …” (Psalm 150:1-6)
“Through him then let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that acknowledge his name.” Hebrews 13:15)
I therefore ask you, are you portending to know more than our Savior Jesus the Christ by not following said passages above by not posting that you are a Christian in your bio page? Yes? BLASPHEME!
YOUR EMBARRASSING QUOTE: “”….. especially with tons of trolls such as yourself.”
There are times when the individual like yourself should just remain silent, and in this case when you stated “trolls like me,” which is not true, but nonetheless, then you were made the fool regarding your alleged Christian faith by a TROLL! How embarrassing, huh?
YOUR ERRONEOUS QUOTE: “Someone who doesn't make $150,000 can put "$150,000" by "Income". Does that make that true about them? No.”
Listen kid, don’t play semantics with me, understood? You are talking apples and oranges, whereas the income post IS NOT equal to Jesus stating that a Christian is to be proud in mentioning that they are a Christian at all times, including your biography page, get it?
YOUR REMOVE ONE FOOT TO INSERT THE OTHER QUOTE: " this is hilarious."
I agree, it is HILARIOUS in you trying to change Jesus' EXACT WORDS with some of the most insipid apologetics that I have seen in a long time!
Where did you get your ungodly Fake Christian Apologetics from? Is it by reading Satanic books taking Jesus' word out of context to save face? You have presented the insidious act of Apologetics 101 in your ever so wanting refutation in not accepting Jesus promoting that the earth is indeed FLAT!
Dr. Franklin, you are guilty of the following passage, to wit: "For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." (2 Timothy 4:3)
May I suggest that you just remain silent upon our Christianity, because you are giving us a bad name, okay? Thank you.
YOUR REVEALING QUOTE: "@Dr.Franklin wow just realized ur an 89 year old debater?? Impressive."
How can it be impressive in the fact that the inept Dr. Franklin is considered to be biblically ignorant for 89 years? Case in point, he tries in vain to spin doctor the biblical axioms of Jesus' EXACT WORDS stating that the earth is flat, into something that Dr. Franklin wants Jesus to say regarding that the earth not flat? Huh? Just read Dr. Franklins posts within this threads comments to see that he allegedly knows more than Jesus. Priceless bible ignorance at it's best!
I am coming to terms in realizing that DebateArt harbors more biblically ignorant Christians than any other religion forum!!!
YOUR QUOTE: “Please stop trolling and be a serious debater.”
Are you calling my TRUE Christian beliefs not serious?! Who in the Hell do you think you are by commenting in such a way? After viewing your vain attempts is debating our Christianity, you are the last one on this website to make such ungodly statements to me, understood?
YOUR UNGODLY QUOTE: “I am christian but I don't bring religion into my political arguments, because that would be a disaster.”
First off, this debate is NOT political, and secondly, not bringing your Christian belief into political matters is blaspheme towards Jesus the Christ! How dare you single him out of political matters? Again, who in the hell do you think you are in this respect?!
JESUS’ INSPIRED WORD STATES: “"He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it." (Titus 1:9)
YOUR BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE: “For example, abortion is prohibited by the Bible, but you can very easily make a non-religious argument by saying the unborn have the right to life and argue that abortion is murder.”
You are no more a Christian than Dr. Franklin, because you bring up the abortion issue, whereas, being a TRUE Christian we have to accept the biblical axiom that our Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, committed abortions upon the women of Ephraim in the book of Hosea. Yes, this biblical fact is hard to accept, but when a TRUE Christain reads all of our bible, then we come accross situations like this. Therefore, I suggest that you do not bring forth the abortion issue again because it is hypocritical to what our Jesus represents, get it?
Tow Boat, your biblical ignorance is without bounds, how embarrassing for you on DebateArt.com!
YOUR QUOTE: "Regarding the trinity I was speaking of the rule you set for this debate, that it is off limits: "Please stay on topic.This is not a debate about ... how God can be two seperate persons and still one God."
Uh, with all due respect, it is not two separate persons, whereas there are three entities regarding our Christian "Trinity Doctrine," being three divine persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. Yet these three divine persons are distinct from one another: the Father is not the Son, the Father is not the Holy Spirit, and the Son is not the Holy Spirit. However, there is exactly one God (1 Timothy 2:5), therefore Christ is His own Father and His own Son. The Holy Ghost is neither Father nor Son, but both. The Son was begotten by the Father, but existed before He was begotten and..... WAIT A MINUTE, I am probably preaching to the choir, therefore, you get the gist in the Trinity Doctrine's simple definition!
There are times when certain inept Christians like you pose an insidious answer, and expect the rational thinkers to actually accept it. NOT!
YOUR PATHETIC QUOTE: "Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe,just maybe society back then people wouldn't understand 3d shapes. Calling the world a circle is a whole lot better than a disk which is the most common name for the world by flat-earthers."
HELLO, ANYBODY HOME? For Christ's sake, we are NOT dealing with what a "society," may think, but with the inspired word of Jesus as Yahweh god incarnate, understand, fool?! Therefore, it was JESUS that wrote the exact words contained in Isaiah 40:22 by using the term "circle!!!" GET IT? When is your blatant ignorance going to slap Jesus in the face again? Huh?
I would hate to see you upon Judgment Day, where you approach Jesus as he has the lever to the trap doors of Hell in his hands, remembering in how you disparaged him at DebateArt in the comments section of this debate! Wow! Good luck in your fateful demise!
As I have stated, King_8 did not have to accept me, knowing that I am a TRUE Christian subsequently to reading my biography page, therefore Jesus' word regarding a flat earth had to be involved, as is your Abrahamic rendition of my Jesus, named Allah, is under the same guise that He too proffers that the earth is FLAT! Therefore, you shouldn't be "out of words" being Islamic.
For your future knowledge, it is hardly ever a friendly debate when I encounter the heathen Atheist and their ungodly rhetoric. Being Islamic, do you as well have a hard time with the Satanic Atheist relative to your Allah God's words in the Qu'ran?
Why are you still RUNNING AWAY from our bible? Huh? I challenged you to a debate on you calling Jesus a LIAR, and you declined, but instead, you have made yourself a Satanic fool again.
YOUR QUOTE: "Yeah easy win... This guy has no evidence and has twisted the Bible so much he's beyond repair."
Listen up, fool, I have given plenty of biblical evidence that shows that the earth is FLAT, therefore, are you calling Jesus' inspired words a LIE again?Show me specifically where I allegedly "TWISTED" the Bible regarding the topic at hand! Now, DO NOT RUNAWAY AGAIN, because your fellow brethren are watching, UNDERSTOOD?
YOUR OUTRIGHT UNGODLY QUOTE!!!: "Please stop it, Your are a radical Christian who twists EVERYTHING into religion. It's SAD. What has troll debates have ANYTHING to do with Jesus. What are you talking about. My GOD, this is insane."
Where in the Hell do you get the authority to question Jesus relative to His true words within the scriptures???!
You know what? You need to debate me on this forum regarding your biblical ignorance in me allegedly being a radical Christian, whereas I am following Jesus' true words within the scriptures! The only thing that is truly INSANE, is the fact that YOU are calling Jesus insane because of his direct words upon the topic at hand! BLASPHEME!
Let me know when you are ready to debate me regarding your biblical ignorance, okay?
YOUR UNCHRISTIANLIKE QUOTE: “Most of my debates, if you actually did research and found context, are either troll debates or ones I've lost because I forfeited rounds.
In the name of our beloved Jesus, you DO NOT accept troll debates, and you DO NOT forfeit rounds but defend our faith to the fullest extent for Christ’s sake!
YOUR EXCUSE #509493895 TO NOT DEFEND CHRISTIANITY: “There have been a couple that I lost by ONE point. Record doesn't necessarily prove who is the best debater.”
Our_Boat_is_Right, we’re NOT playing the game of Hoareshoes where the closet shoe wins along with a ringer, therefore your losing by one point should not even be brought up in the first place. I am sure that Jesus is not smiling when you posited that a record does not prove who is the best debater, when in fact, it does. I, as a TRUE Christian, have to pull out all stops in defending our faith, especially in the 21st century.
May I suggest that you do not bring forth any more “excuses” for not being able to stand up to the heathen Atheists, or any religion that refutes ours, but instead, show actual results?! Jesus’ inspired words in this repect are as follows:
"He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it." (Titus 1:9)
Subsequent to reading your comical biography page, you are kidding us in the alleged fact that you are a Christian and a top debater, yes?
Additionally, I couldn’t help but notice that on your bio page, you stated that you are a top debater for your age group on debate.org, huh? But, showing your embarrassing stats on DebateArt, you have 9 debates, tied 1, AND LOST 7, with only 1 win? Are you kidding?
You are giving Christianity a bad name, and at a certain point while you are on DebateArt, maybe you might think of changing your moniker to save our faith any further embarrassment, okay? Thanks.
YOUR QUOTE: "We established yesterday that Boat is willing and available to defend truism debates so what's holding Boat back here?"
One needs a TRUE Christian like myself to fully debate this topic, as it will be shown that King_8 will be made the fool in this debate for not believing in true biblical axioms relative to Jesus stating that the earth is flat.
My fellow Christians, even though they are not TRUE Christians like myself, will have to agree with me upon the earth being flat.
I have accepted your blatant ignorance where you think the earth is not flat. I am new to the ways of how these debates work, and the operation of same. So, I will learn as my first debate on DebateArt moves along.
Good luck with going against Jesus' inspired word!
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Satanic Dr. Franklin,
OH LOOK!!! Dr. Franklin cannot come up with his own words, so he has to COPY MINE when I state he is Satanic for calling Jesus a LIAR in our debate! How original and child like can Dr. Franklin be, NOT!
Yes, she was outlining her debate protocols, but TRY and use logic 101 for a change, IN OUTLINING her debate, she said what she will not do, therefore it is candy ass to Jesus' MO in the Temple, GET IT?! HELLO DR. FRANKLIN, ANYBODY HOME TODAY?! LOL!!!
OMG, you continue to remove one foot to insert the other at all times, how embarrassing for you AGAIN!
Get your pagan ass back into the DEBATE that you made specifically for me, where you are continually made the fool, you don't have time to linger in any comment section to HIDE from said debate, understood?
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CroixRennie,
I am a TRUE Christian, therefore I have to accept ALL of my Judeo-Christian bible without question, where I do not hide from what is disgustingly shown at times. In the case of abortion, unfortunately my Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, caused abortions as shown within the following passages. Therefore, Jesus' inspired word is hardly pro-life, whereas I cannot put a logical spin on this biblical fact to take it away, and remain intelligent looking in the aftermath.
"The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth, or perish in the womb or never be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Isreal will bring out her children to be slaughtered. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered.. O Lord, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The Lord says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16)
"Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword; their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open." (Hosea 13:16)
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As shown within the debating venue, any Christian that takes the ungodly position of stating that the earth is spherical, therefore voting against the Brother D, are deceivingly anachronistic as they slap our Jesus in the face relative to "the knowledge of the truth" of the earth being flat as proposed ad infinitum within our bible, and though out the historicity of early Christianity! These wannabe Christians will pay upon Judgment Day for sure, praise Jesus' revenge!
“If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,” (Hebrews 10:26)
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YeshuaRedeemed,
YOUR QUOTE: "I promise not to be abusive, or judgemental."
Why would you take your candy-assed position when proving Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate in existing? I act within the same way my Jesus did when he was upset with the money changers in the Temple by violently over turning their tables in a very emotive way! He has set an example for us to act in the same manner. Although I do not make a whip of cords to beat the Atheists and ignorant Christians with, like our ever loving and forgiving Jesus did towards the money changers, but instead, I beat them with His inspired word within the scriptures!
“When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” (John 2:13-16)
As shown above, our Jesus was a man's man tough guy with a "take no prisoner" modus operandi, praise!
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Satanic Dr. Franklin,
What are you doing HIDING in the comment section of this debate???! Listen up you minion of Satan, get your sorry Satanic a*s back into YOUR DEBATE that YOU MADE FOR ME at the following link, because I haven’t even started to show you to be the most blatant ignorant wannabe Christian fool regarding our bible and the historicity of Christianity on DebateArt, understood?
"The bible never says the earth is flat"
https://www.debateart.com/debates/972
In said debate above, I have easily bludgeoned your Devil Speak in the eyes of Jesus, therefore, you do not have the time to seek refuge in other debate comment sections like you are doing now at your expense, but to "TRY" and finish said debate, understood? Maybe? Yes?
Your ROUND 2 is running short of time for you, DO NOT RUN AWAY, or I will make sure you will never live it down, get it?
I WILL BE WAITING AT YOUR EXPENSE AGAIN!!!
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Virtuoso,
With you mentioning the following: "The earth is flat is a retarded debate," is being totally anachronistic. What is precluded today, and what was godly fact 2000-6000 years ago is black and white. You cannot deny that accent Hebrew tradition was that the earth was flat, therefore this debate is NOT retarded! Besides, you would be calling your traditional Hebrew faith a disparaging term.
Your biography is spot on with mine, praise Jesus!
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Ragnar,
YOUR QUOTE: "Given that number of abortions God performs within the bible..."
Yes, this is true for our Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate of the Triune Doctrine. This is why it is so hard for a TRUE Christian like myself to accept that Jesus performed abortions and had women ripped open to remove their fetus because He was upset with a certain faction of His creation. Sometimes I wish I was an ignorant wannabe True Christian like 99.99 percent of the Christians within this forum, where ignorance of the Bible would be totally bliss and comforting.
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K_Michael,
YOUR QUOTE: "The fact that the Bible refers to the Earth as both a circle and a four-cornered shape indicates that one or both are non-literal descriptions."
Hypotheticals are so easy to offer, to be true to form, show me BIBLICALLY where your quote above can be true in both propositions, otherwise, we throw it in the "Wishful Thinking Hypothetical Trash Bin where it belongs! I'll add you to the ever growing list here at DebateArt of Christians that deny Jesus' DIRECT WORDS shown within the Bible.
“EVERY word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5) Every word includes the words as directly given within the scriptures, with no decoder rings or insipid apologetics needed, otherwise, what Jesus said once, He could not mean for his followers to take in many different and contradicting ways! GET IT?! How shameful of you to even proffer such a Satanic quote.
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Dr. Franklin,
Why are you wasting your time in this thread? You have a debate that YOU STARTED FOR ME at the following link:
https://www.debateart.com/debates/972
You stated that I was an idiot at the onset OF THE DEBATE THAT YOU STARTED shown above, but at this time, you are the IDIOT for spending time other than the debate above where I am easily making you the fool and a minion of Satan! Are you RUNNING AWAY again from a debate, even your own debate?
NO, I am not 21stCenturyIconoclast, although I have debated him a few times around the internet Religion forums, and I have to admit, I have used a few of his statements, words, and "periods" to extend the dialog past images from the top to bottom of a page which is a great idea. I also use some of his statements because they are appropriate to Christians like you that DO NOT follow ALL of the Bible and expect to be a Christian. Here, let me give you an example, "Dr. Franklin, you are a pseudo-christian, and I am a TRUE Christian for following ALL of our Jesus' inspired words, GET IT?"
You challenged me to YOUR DEBATE, https://www.debateart.com/debates/972, therefore, I accepted and suggest you get back into round 2 where at this time you are RUNNING AWAY from your own debate!!!
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Now, quit embarrassing yourself in front of the members of DebateArt, and get into the debate that you started shown above, because my first round in this debate of yours in only the first round of your total embarrassment here on DebateArt!!!
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Our_Boat_is_Right,
I have already bible-slapped you silly in the other debate upon this topic, do you need more at your expense once again? Huh? You irony is that you have turned into what you are allegedly against, and that is an OUTRIGHT TROLL by definition!
It would behoove you to sit upon the sidelines where you belong, like a little puppy tethered to a front porch, and watch the big dogs play with the inept pseudo-christians like you, where Jesus' LITERAL word will be handing Dr. Franklin's ass to him shortly, okay? You can thank me later.
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Speedrace,
YOUR REVEALING QUOTE: "It’s people like this that scare people from Christianity *sigh*"
You are correct in your thinking, but "Our_Boat_is_Right" isn't going to be changing anytime soon. :(
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Our_Boat_is_Right,
YOUR REVEALING QUOTE: "You choose these verses but ignore all of the Bble's other verses that strictly prohibit aborion."
Regarding your quote, do the simple math, then it is called CONTRADITION, get it? Shhhhh, our bible is full of them, mums the word, shhhhhh....
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Dr. Franklin,
When I am done with your ungodly Satanic rhetoric, you will have to start wearing asbestos suits for the obvious reasons!
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Dr. Franklin,
Why of course I will accept your Satanic debate towards Jesus the Christ! Unfortunately for you, I will easily show you committing the UNPARDONABLE SIN, where upon your demise, you will be swimming in the burning lakes of Hell, Praise Jesus!
When the debate finishes, you will start smelling sulfur because of your blaspheme against our Savior, Jesus the Christ!
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King_8,
YOUR UNFORTUNATE QUOTE: "First off I'm not a kid, secondly I don't have time for your BS so stfu. Like I said I don't have to put anything on my bio to please you. I know what I am. Me not putting anything by religion is not a sin."
First thing, do not be a Troll by you using child-like epithets because Trolls are looked down upon in this forum. Secondly, putting your Christian faith into your bio should NOT be to please me, but to please Jesus the Christ! When you don't, it's like you are embarrassed about Jesus' true modus operandi as shown below, or Christianity altogether.
Remember, you are to follow Jesus' word to the fullest extent, as shown in the passage below, this includes your biography page.
"Praise the Lord! Praise God in his sanctuary; praise him in his mighty heavens! Praise him for his mighty deeds; praise him according to his excellent greatness! Praise him with trumpet sound; praise him with lute and harp! Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe! Praise him with sounding cymbals; praise him with loud clashing cymbals! ..." (Psalm 150:1-6)
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Our_Boat_is_Right,
YOUR QUOTE ACCEPTING THAT JESUS IS A MURDERER OF INNOCENT FETUS,’ PRAISE!: “So in this series of scripture, I read the Bible saying that violently ripping the unborn from the womb is a just and worthy retribution if their parents were considered to have rebelled against God.”
Our_Boat_is_Right, finally, you just may be a TRUE Christian like myself for admitting that our beloved Jesus, as God incarnate in the book of Hosea, is in fact, a brutal murderer of the innocent unborn! (Hosea 9: 11-16) Thank you for your honesty, praise!
In the beginning it was hard for me to accept that our Jesus was a brutal murderer, especially of innocent zygotes, fetus,’ and babies, but I finally gave in to his true modus operandi within the scriptures, because who am I to usurp the truth about our Jesus? We just have to move on with this unfortunate knowledge of our Savior the best way we can, agreed?
Don’t forget in your passages next time, that our Jesus actually went through and murdered the innocent unborn within the Ephraim woman’s womb, and if the women brought forth a child, Jesus slayed that child as well in Hosea 9:16.
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AS EXPLICITLY SHOWN, “OUR_BOAT_IS_RIGHT” AND “MYSELF” ARE ON RECORD ADMITTING THAT
OUR JESUS IS A BRUTAL MURDERER OF THE INNOCENT UNBORN!
Therefore, subjectively, who are we to be against abortion when our Jesus set an example and performed this brutal act in the book of Hosea. At least in the USA, the Family Planning Clinics won’t rip out the unborn, or actually slay them after they are born, like Jesus did in the book of Hosea, whew!
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Our_Boat_is_Right,
When I stated that you turned into a TROLL by its true definition, and you did not respond in kind, the only answer then is that you agreed that you have turned into a troll! Thank you for your honesty for a change. Therefore, you are against trolls as stated, but then you turned into one, this is quite an irony, isn't it?
When talking about abortion LIKE YOU DID, and with abortion being in the news of late, then why did you bring it forth knowing that it is at the head of all news casts? Therefore, you were the impetus of politically bringing abortion to the forefront! Priceless hypocrisy on your part.
SIDEBAR: You still remain eerily silent to our Yahweh/Jesus enacting abortions upon the women of Ephraim in our Jesus' book of Hosea, and slaying them if they do survive by being born outside of the womb. Are you too embarrassed, as usual, to respond to this biblical axiom? Huh?
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Dr. Franklin,
YOUR COMMITMENT QUOTE: "you know what, fuck it, it will be a easy win anyway"
Barring the fact that you are continually showing us that you are the true definition of an internet TROLL, I am glad that your quote states that you want to debate your biblical ignorance, praise Jesus. Do you want me to set up the debate, or do you want to do it? I am trying to help you in any way that I can, because it is going to be a bloodbath at your expense! Be forewarned, I will not be holding back in showing your outright blatant ignorance of our Christianity, do you understand? Yes?
Dr. Franklin, no more RUNAWAY excuses, no more pretending that you are a Christian, no more hiding behind a faith where you are no more a Christian than an Atheist is, understood? Now, put up, or shut up in the name of Satan!
DebateArt members are now watching your decision, will you RUN AWAY, or stand ground to be made the hypocritical wannabe Christian that you are?
WAITING!
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Dr. Franklin = the true definition of a pseudo-christian:
1. To save further embarrassment, he cannot reread his previous posts in this thread showing him rewriting Jesus LITERAL words where he wants Jesus NOT to state the earth is flat.
2. Is too SCARED to debate me upon our Jesus the Christ's LITERAL word regarding that the earth is flat.
3. Continues to RUN AWAY from our Christian faith when pushed to explain why he calls Jesus a LIAR!
4. Keeps chanting like a child the same statement, when in fact, I gave him embarrassing evidence that he refuses to address.
5. Has turned into a "parrot" to save further embarrassment regarding his ignorance pertaining to our faith
6. Has turned into a TROLL by it's true definition, which is quite the irony.
This is enough embarrassing facts about our ol' Dr. Franklin, that can no more defend our Christianity than the equally inept Our_Boat_is_Right can.
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Our_Boat_is_Right,
Firstly, I find it amusing that you have turned into what you're allegedly against, AND THAT IS A TROLL BY IT'S TRUE DEFINITION! LOL! Just reread your rants in your embarrassing posts for the proof of this fact!
With that being said, where have I allegedly "interjected" any religion into politics? Awaiting a cogent response this time, okay? Thank you.
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Dr. Franklin,
Seriously, you obviously do not want to reread your ungodly posts showing you wanting to REWRITE what Jesus said literally, into what you want Jesus to say APOLOGETICALLY to save face in that Jesus promotes that the earth is flat! You will pay upon Judgment Day for sure!
May I suggest that you accept AND follow this biblical principle that explains you to the letter, to wit: “Even fools are thought wise if they keep silent, and discerning if they hold their tongues.” (Proverbs 17:28)
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Our_Boat_is_Right,
Barring your grasping for straws quotes in disparaging me BY YOU BEING THE TRUE DEFINITION OF A TROLL, you forgot to address your proposition of Islam murdering others that do not follow Islam, whereas, our Christian view proffers the same in the passage shown in the post in question. Why are you RUNNING AWAY from our Christianity again??? Can you give the members of this forum an answer?
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Dr. Franklin,
YOUR QUOTE: "PLEASE GIVE ME EVIDENCE AND EVIDENCE THAT I AM LYING"
I don't know if I can give you evidence TWICE like you proposed, where only one time should suffice.
Listen, in the name of Jesus' true words, I can understand that you are somewhat disturbed in calling Jesus a LIAR in your posts, where you try in vain to state that what Jesus said LITERALLY, is not what the insidious act of APOLOGETICS meant Him to say.
Why don't you challenge me to a debate upon the topic of Jesus' LIERAL WORD! Yes? I guarantee you will have a nervous time, okay?
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Virtuoso,
YOUR QUOTE: "I will refer that to bsh1 as he handles the bans. In the future, please privately PM us if you have a problem with a user."
TROLL: In internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community ..."
Relative to the definition of a Troll above, I am only responding to the inept wannabe Christian in defense of Jesus' TRUE WORDS. I cannot help it if the wannabe Christians in this thread do not like Jesus' truth, and because of this fact, they turn themselves into the true definition of a TROLL in response!
I should not be held hostage in any way whatsoever for being a TRUE Christian, where there should be no problem in representing my faith in a truthful manner whether the true Trolls by definition, the wannabe Christians as shown, like it or not. What an irony, huh?
Facetiously, I as a TRUE Christian, and you as a follower of Judaism, should be happy that I am taking on the pseudo-christian crowd in their total ignorance of their faith!
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Our_Boat_is_Right,
May I make a serious proposition that you should follow post haste? Please, for the sake of what face you have left within this forum, just remain upon the sidelines for a long time, okay? This will prevent you from removing one foot to insert the other, understood?
YOUR HYPOCRITICAL CHRISTIAN QUOTE: "What if I am a radical Ismalic? Should we make laws to murder people that don't agree with the Islam religion? After all, it would be going against the Islamic religion and the holy book of the Q'uran."
I hate it when the assumed Christian like you forces me to include our Jesus' inspired word equal to the Islamic Qu'ran in the context posed above!!! In doing so, I as a TRUE Christian unfortunately has to accept that our Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, proffered the same murderous acts as shown within your revealing quote. Conversely, should we make laws to murder people that don't agree with Christianity as Jesus' inspired words state below? Huh?
"If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, BUT KILL HIM. Your hand shall be the first raised to SLAY HIM; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall STONE HIM TO DEATH, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)
Do you understand why it is so hard in being a TRUE Christian in the 21st century of Satanic science, logic, and reason, let alone YOU being an hypocritical Christian?
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Our_Boat_is_Right,
YOUR CHRISTIAN RUN AWAY QUOTE: "This guy is a troll, he is not worth our time."
Your statement is yet another Christian excuse # 409937387495948383854-5 to RUN AWAY from the true words of Jesus the Christ!
Since you could not address Jesus' inspired words that I have included in this debate, and in the comments section, you have to run away from them to save face! Your priceless runaway is duly noted.
What you fail to realize, is that our Jesus is watching you RUN AWAY from his true words where your utter stupidity will send you to your grave!
"The Lord sees everything you do. Wherever you go, he is watching. The sins of the wicked are a trap. They get caught in the net of their own sin. They die because they have no self-control. Their utter stupidity will send them to their graves." (Proverbs 5:21-23)
Wannabe Christians are so predictable because of their outright ignorance to Jesus' faith.
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King_8,
Barring the fact that you are guilty of the Unpardonable Sin, and what time you have left as being a passenger of our Jesus’ created earth, pick your battles wisely next time, where you won’t be stepping in the proverbial poo all the time as being shown to be an outright hypocritical Christian, okay? You’re welcome.
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King_8,
Barring the FACT that you removed your child-like response to me stating “shut up,” and if in fact you are a Christian, but in name only, you should be proud to let everyone know this fact, understood? By not stating that you are an assumed Christian in your biography page, again, then you are slapping Jesus right in the face as biblically shown below:
JESUS’ INSPIRED WORD SAYS TO LET IT BE KNOWN YOU ARE TO PRAISE AND ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AT ALL TIMES:
“Praise the Lord! Praise God in his sanctuary; praise him in his mighty heavens! Praise him for his mighty deeds; praise him according to his excellent greatness! Praise him with trumpet sound; praise him with lute and harp! Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe! Praise him with sounding cymbals; praise him with loud clashing cymbals! …” (Psalm 150:1-6)
“Through him then let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that acknowledge his name.” Hebrews 13:15)
I therefore ask you, are you portending to know more than our Savior Jesus the Christ by not following said passages above by not posting that you are a Christian in your bio page? Yes? BLASPHEME!
YOUR EMBARRASSING QUOTE: “”….. especially with tons of trolls such as yourself.”
There are times when the individual like yourself should just remain silent, and in this case when you stated “trolls like me,” which is not true, but nonetheless, then you were made the fool regarding your alleged Christian faith by a TROLL! How embarrassing, huh?
YOUR ERRONEOUS QUOTE: “Someone who doesn't make $150,000 can put "$150,000" by "Income". Does that make that true about them? No.”
Listen kid, don’t play semantics with me, understood? You are talking apples and oranges, whereas the income post IS NOT equal to Jesus stating that a Christian is to be proud in mentioning that they are a Christian at all times, including your biography page, get it?
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Dr. Franklin,
YOUR REMOVE ONE FOOT TO INSERT THE OTHER QUOTE: " this is hilarious."
I agree, it is HILARIOUS in you trying to change Jesus' EXACT WORDS with some of the most insipid apologetics that I have seen in a long time!
Where did you get your ungodly Fake Christian Apologetics from? Is it by reading Satanic books taking Jesus' word out of context to save face? You have presented the insidious act of Apologetics 101 in your ever so wanting refutation in not accepting Jesus promoting that the earth is indeed FLAT!
Dr. Franklin, you are guilty of the following passage, to wit: "For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." (2 Timothy 4:3)
May I suggest that you just remain silent upon our Christianity, because you are giving us a bad name, okay? Thank you.
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Our_Boat_is_Right,
YOUR REVEALING QUOTE: "@Dr.Franklin wow just realized ur an 89 year old debater?? Impressive."
How can it be impressive in the fact that the inept Dr. Franklin is considered to be biblically ignorant for 89 years? Case in point, he tries in vain to spin doctor the biblical axioms of Jesus' EXACT WORDS stating that the earth is flat, into something that Dr. Franklin wants Jesus to say regarding that the earth not flat? Huh? Just read Dr. Franklins posts within this threads comments to see that he allegedly knows more than Jesus. Priceless bible ignorance at it's best!
I am coming to terms in realizing that DebateArt harbors more biblically ignorant Christians than any other religion forum!!!
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Our_Boat_is_Right,
YOUR QUOTE: “Please stop trolling and be a serious debater.”
Are you calling my TRUE Christian beliefs not serious?! Who in the Hell do you think you are by commenting in such a way? After viewing your vain attempts is debating our Christianity, you are the last one on this website to make such ungodly statements to me, understood?
YOUR UNGODLY QUOTE: “I am christian but I don't bring religion into my political arguments, because that would be a disaster.”
First off, this debate is NOT political, and secondly, not bringing your Christian belief into political matters is blaspheme towards Jesus the Christ! How dare you single him out of political matters? Again, who in the hell do you think you are in this respect?!
JESUS’ INSPIRED WORD STATES: “"He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it." (Titus 1:9)
YOUR BIBLE IGNORANT QUOTE: “For example, abortion is prohibited by the Bible, but you can very easily make a non-religious argument by saying the unborn have the right to life and argue that abortion is murder.”
You are no more a Christian than Dr. Franklin, because you bring up the abortion issue, whereas, being a TRUE Christian we have to accept the biblical axiom that our Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, committed abortions upon the women of Ephraim in the book of Hosea. Yes, this biblical fact is hard to accept, but when a TRUE Christain reads all of our bible, then we come accross situations like this. Therefore, I suggest that you do not bring forth the abortion issue again because it is hypocritical to what our Jesus represents, get it?
Tow Boat, your biblical ignorance is without bounds, how embarrassing for you on DebateArt.com!
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Ragnar,
YOUR QUOTE: "Regarding the trinity I was speaking of the rule you set for this debate, that it is off limits: "Please stay on topic.This is not a debate about ... how God can be two seperate persons and still one God."
Uh, with all due respect, it is not two separate persons, whereas there are three entities regarding our Christian "Trinity Doctrine," being three divine persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. Yet these three divine persons are distinct from one another: the Father is not the Son, the Father is not the Holy Spirit, and the Son is not the Holy Spirit. However, there is exactly one God (1 Timothy 2:5), therefore Christ is His own Father and His own Son. The Holy Ghost is neither Father nor Son, but both. The Son was begotten by the Father, but existed before He was begotten and..... WAIT A MINUTE, I am probably preaching to the choir, therefore, you get the gist in the Trinity Doctrine's simple definition!
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Dr. Franklin,
There are times when certain inept Christians like you pose an insidious answer, and expect the rational thinkers to actually accept it. NOT!
YOUR PATHETIC QUOTE: "Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe,just maybe society back then people wouldn't understand 3d shapes. Calling the world a circle is a whole lot better than a disk which is the most common name for the world by flat-earthers."
HELLO, ANYBODY HOME? For Christ's sake, we are NOT dealing with what a "society," may think, but with the inspired word of Jesus as Yahweh god incarnate, understand, fool?! Therefore, it was JESUS that wrote the exact words contained in Isaiah 40:22 by using the term "circle!!!" GET IT? When is your blatant ignorance going to slap Jesus in the face again? Huh?
I would hate to see you upon Judgment Day, where you approach Jesus as he has the lever to the trap doors of Hell in his hands, remembering in how you disparaged him at DebateArt in the comments section of this debate! Wow! Good luck in your fateful demise!
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Twilightzi,
As I have stated, King_8 did not have to accept me, knowing that I am a TRUE Christian subsequently to reading my biography page, therefore Jesus' word regarding a flat earth had to be involved, as is your Abrahamic rendition of my Jesus, named Allah, is under the same guise that He too proffers that the earth is FLAT! Therefore, you shouldn't be "out of words" being Islamic.
For your future knowledge, it is hardly ever a friendly debate when I encounter the heathen Atheist and their ungodly rhetoric. Being Islamic, do you as well have a hard time with the Satanic Atheist relative to your Allah God's words in the Qu'ran?
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Dr. Franklin,
Why are you still RUNNING AWAY from our bible? Huh? I challenged you to a debate on you calling Jesus a LIAR, and you declined, but instead, you have made yourself a Satanic fool again.
YOUR QUOTE: "Yeah easy win... This guy has no evidence and has twisted the Bible so much he's beyond repair."
Listen up, fool, I have given plenty of biblical evidence that shows that the earth is FLAT, therefore, are you calling Jesus' inspired words a LIE again?Show me specifically where I allegedly "TWISTED" the Bible regarding the topic at hand! Now, DO NOT RUNAWAY AGAIN, because your fellow brethren are watching, UNDERSTOOD?
WAITING!
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Dr Franklin,
YOUR OUTRIGHT UNGODLY QUOTE!!!: "Please stop it, Your are a radical Christian who twists EVERYTHING into religion. It's SAD. What has troll debates have ANYTHING to do with Jesus. What are you talking about. My GOD, this is insane."
Where in the Hell do you get the authority to question Jesus relative to His true words within the scriptures???!
You know what? You need to debate me on this forum regarding your biblical ignorance in me allegedly being a radical Christian, whereas I am following Jesus' true words within the scriptures! The only thing that is truly INSANE, is the fact that YOU are calling Jesus insane because of his direct words upon the topic at hand! BLASPHEME!
Let me know when you are ready to debate me regarding your biblical ignorance, okay?
Awaiting your timely reply.
Our_Boat_is_Right,
YOUR UNCHRISTIANLIKE QUOTE: “Most of my debates, if you actually did research and found context, are either troll debates or ones I've lost because I forfeited rounds.
In the name of our beloved Jesus, you DO NOT accept troll debates, and you DO NOT forfeit rounds but defend our faith to the fullest extent for Christ’s sake!
YOUR EXCUSE #509493895 TO NOT DEFEND CHRISTIANITY: “There have been a couple that I lost by ONE point. Record doesn't necessarily prove who is the best debater.”
Our_Boat_is_Right, we’re NOT playing the game of Hoareshoes where the closet shoe wins along with a ringer, therefore your losing by one point should not even be brought up in the first place. I am sure that Jesus is not smiling when you posited that a record does not prove who is the best debater, when in fact, it does. I, as a TRUE Christian, have to pull out all stops in defending our faith, especially in the 21st century.
May I suggest that you do not bring forth any more “excuses” for not being able to stand up to the heathen Atheists, or any religion that refutes ours, but instead, show actual results?! Jesus’ inspired words in this repect are as follows:
"He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it." (Titus 1:9)
Our_Boat_is_Right,
Subsequent to reading your comical biography page, you are kidding us in the alleged fact that you are a Christian and a top debater, yes?
Additionally, I couldn’t help but notice that on your bio page, you stated that you are a top debater for your age group on debate.org, huh? But, showing your embarrassing stats on DebateArt, you have 9 debates, tied 1, AND LOST 7, with only 1 win? Are you kidding?
You are giving Christianity a bad name, and at a certain point while you are on DebateArt, maybe you might think of changing your moniker to save our faith any further embarrassment, okay? Thanks.
oromagi,
YOUR QUOTE: "We established yesterday that Boat is willing and available to defend truism debates so what's holding Boat back here?"
One needs a TRUE Christian like myself to fully debate this topic, as it will be shown that King_8 will be made the fool in this debate for not believing in true biblical axioms relative to Jesus stating that the earth is flat.
My fellow Christians, even though they are not TRUE Christians like myself, will have to agree with me upon the earth being flat.
King_8,
I have accepted your blatant ignorance where you think the earth is not flat. I am new to the ways of how these debates work, and the operation of same. So, I will learn as my first debate on DebateArt moves along.
Good luck with going against Jesus' inspired word!