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@ADreamOfLiberty
Yeah, I agree with destiny on almost every topic because he backs up all his points with data, statistics and studies. He has been on an insane amount of shows and disagrees with liberals and conservatives super regularly.
Refreshing to see someone who isnt strictly held to their party line on every topic
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@Sir.Lancelot
A popular streamer called " Destiny "
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@ponikshiy
Me when its july 6th and nothing happend
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@Sidewalker
Again, i see where you are coming from and i definitely agree to a certain point, however remember that the website they were asking for was ABOUT lgbtq, so if a Muslim webmaster was asked to make a christian website i dont think that anyone would be angry if they refused.
So while you cant be refused anything due to your sexual orientation, there will always be an exception if it directly has to with said sexual oreintation
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@Sidewalker
Good point, Honestly i think that would be ok
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@Sidewalker
Well religion is also a protected class though, so because of that i dont think they could be forced to make something against their religion
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@ponikshiy
Lol yeah sure, get back to me on the 6th when nothing has happened
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@hey-yo
Thats up for debate, Im sure they can find somone else who would be happy to make the website, so i dont see anything wrong with the refusal
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Yeah you can lol, Any business reserves the right to refuse service for any reason, exept if its against a protected class, however if you have a religion that is against that stuff i guess its okay to not serve them.
Plus, serving a gay guy food is different than making a website about them being gay for them
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@Lemming
You make a pretty good point, however google can refuse to allow anyone to use gmail if they so please to
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Its not a inherent right to have a website made for you, so they can refuse service for you for any reason they want to
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@TWS1405_2
I had a whole responses type out and exited the page, so i voice recorded it because i didnt have time to type it all out again
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@TWS1405_2
I mean, maybe you could make that argument, however its not what the law says, so therefore if someone is punished for doing something that isn't against the law, i would be against it
Again, the law says that you need to harass said person, and im sure that would mean already knowing their pronouns, and deciding to use the ones they would rather not be called maliciously to harass them.
And i dont have a degree, Im 15 so i haven't had the chance yet, however i can read and ive done lots of research into legal issues, and can assure you that just because you accidentally call someone a pronoun they wouldn't prefer, You will not be fined unless you continue to use it in a harassing manner
Again, we can maybe argue that 5 years for simple harassment is way to much, but i wouldn't say that if someone is convicted of that crime, that they are totally innocent.
If you can link me an article of someone being arrested for calling someone the wrong pronouns i would love to see it.
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@TWS1405_2
All that bill is, is telling you that you can harrass a person by calling them something you already know they dont want to be called, so yes i agree with this law, again, read the damn law before having a mental breakdown over it
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@TWS1405_2
That doesnt mean anyone will be jailed for it though, lmao
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@zedvictor4
Oops, Sorry, I'm horrid at spelling sometimes, I meant acquainted, im definitely not Amish
I dont think we actually disagree on this though, My main disagreement is that there is some large conspiracy to wipe out nine tenths of the population, AND if there is, it would happen anytime soon, maybe 100-200 years of rapid birth decline to get us there.
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@Slainte
Well, Its hard to say untill we see how the situation pans out, im thinking that if rfk wins the primary, he could maybe hold it above trumps head that he said he liked him
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@zedvictor4
Quite condescending of you my friend
Firstly, I am not speaking of my own house, as currently i do that myself
My point is, is why would the wealthy cut the population by 90% and hurt themselves in the process? They certainly dont do the trucking and cleaning themselves
The point the original poster was making, was that there was some top tier level of society that wanted to slice the population by a extreme amount.
And sure, it is relative to itself, But if we kill 90 percent in the next, hmm lets say 20 years, A large portion of those left over likely wouldnt know how to survive without first world amenities, and society would collapse, crumbling everything essentially. Maybe they would want a max of 20-30% of the population gone.
( PS, I am rather well antiquated with farming, as i have my own garden of tomatoes, corn and several types of berries )
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@TWS1405_2
Dont listen to fear mongering TV hosts, do your own research like an intellectual person
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@TWS1405_2
Alright, Here we go
The assertion that any movements plan is the reduce the worlds population by 90 percent is so absurd, To go from 8 Billion to under a billion would cripple almost all portions of society, You need farmers, cleaners, truckers, Grocery store workers and thousands of other jobs, to keep society running. We need much more than 800 million to run society, even with a reduced population.
Proof that transgender-ism is screwing anything up? Some teens go through a phase where they may have a false belief that they are trans, Mostly due to how much attention they get when they claim they are. They will grow out of it, and become more conservative as they age ( Such as the Vietnam war protesters in the late 60's and early 70's who were mostly liberal, now being mostly conservative ) Plus, there is no major push to " Sexualize children " upwards of 99% of the population is against children being abused.
You are misinterpreting their objective, Maybe do some reading on the one health web page before randomly saying stuff lol
You're afraid of the Fabians? A stupid ideology with downwards of 8,000 members?
Brave new world is a book, much like 1984, and im not sure what this is supposed to prove
Operation lockstep, and the rocker feller playbook are both proven hoaxes, and yet you still continue to cite it as if there is any validity behind it
Now onto your little gay marriage hate rant
Firstly, Gay marriage doesnt and never will affect anybody. So there of course isnt anything wrong with it
However, the issue you seem to have is that you think it will somehow end up becoming pedophilia in some form or way
Trans people, want to transition before puberty, because Trans women have a hard time transitioning after 18 due to many major things that happen to a boy as he becomes a man ( Adams apple, Masculine facial structure, deeper voice ect. )
I agree with you , that because children are children, they shouldn't be making any life altering changes, but always remember to try to see the other side of it, because people think what they do for a reason.
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@TWS1405_2
Ridiculous fear mongering
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@RationalMadman
I think right wing has already somewhat joined with moderate feminists, I would consider myself liberal however, and i font think conservatives actually stand for the betterment of women, but thats a different topic.
The liberals are pushing way to far, because on other topics such as gay marriage and even the Vietnam war, they could push hard enough to get what they wanted done, done. This is totally different than those things, I guess they have won on social issues for such a long time that they forget to stop and look at themselves in the mirror
Obviously if you go through male puberty you should play against other men in sports, However i think the bathroom argument is much more odd, because if you are afraid you will be sexually assaulted by a trans woman, what stops a regular man ( who is simply a predator and not trans) from just walking into the woman Bathroom/Lockeroom from doing the same? Furthermore, If you present as a female ( Meaning no obvious male characteristics) and have had some sort of bottom surgery, you should be allowed to go into the womens restroom because by definition, you no longer have any physical characteristics that present you as a man.
I think that many will be reactionary to some of the overly absurd arguments that the liberals come up with, and become conservative feminists
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@Vegasgiants
Yeah, your probably right
I dont think trump could beat biden in jail or not though lol
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@Vegasgiants
Okay, My apologies for assuming many of your political positions
I see where you are coming from, But i think if you applied that across the board, one could abuse that and continuously run for election to avoid minor criminal charges
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@Vegasgiants
Firstly, It is not a Putin move whatsoever, due to the fact that its a investigation being done by the DOJ
Putin jails people for no reason whatsoever, And if trump was jailed there would be a clear cut reason as to why
Plus, nothing could even convince you that trump did anything wrong, If he gets arrested, you'll claim that Biden is a vicious dictator that jails his opponents, and if he doesn't get jailed, you will all say that there was no evidence to indict him in the first place
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@Vegasgiants
Doesn't make much of a difference, They both most likely will effect election results, but its at the fault of the one running for president
They should indict him when they feel they have the evidence to do so, And if you read the indictment you will see very clearly that they did in fact have that evidence
Therefore, just because he is running to become president, that doesn't give him immunity to the charges for any amount of time
And if they decided to indict Hillary, but waited until early 2017 to do so, you all would be angry about how they waited to help her in the election.
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@Vegasgiants
Hmm, They opened an investigation on Hillary mere weeks before the 2016 election
I dont hear screeches of election interference from you there
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