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@Mall
No when I say classical identity I am referring to a model of identity

A=A 

A person has some sort of set of characteristics that distinctly set them apart

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@Mall
Person here is used as an individual with a classical identity or follows the law of classical identity 
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@YouFound_Lxam
I am just saying that is disanalagous to use the body, mind, and soul in comparison with the trinity and that my previous concerns still have credence

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@YouFound_Lxam
This doesn't contradict itself at all. Let me use my analogy again:

Your physical body is you.
Your soul is you.
Your logical mind is you. 

But.

Your physical body is not your mind.
Your mind is not your soul.
Your soul is not your physical body. 
I understand but, in your analogy, (assuming) a human being consists of distinct but unified components: body, soul, and mind. However, these components are not considered distinct persons in the same sense that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are within the Trinity. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are claimed to be as distinct persons within the Godhead, not components of one unified being or parts to a whole. In the Christian understanding of the Trinity, each person (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) is fully and completely God, not merely aspects or attributes of God. 

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Classical identity principles stipulate that if A = B and B = C, then A must equal C. In your analogy, the components of a human being (body, mind, soul) are equated with the whole being. However, in the Trinity, the persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) are not parts of a whole but distinct person who share the same absolute identity whilst preserving their own individual identities.

None of the terms above are used equivocally and I am willing to opt for using "Godhead" to avoid ambiguity of using "God" as a count noun or a proper noun


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@YouFound_Lxam
Well consider this:

1. The Father is God
2. The Son is God
3. The Holy Spirit is God
4. The Father is not the Son
5. The Father is not the Holy Spirit
6. The Son is not the Holy Spirit

Trinitarian Christians accept all of these propositions whilst denying polytheism, partialism, and modalism and trying to preserve a logical framework of identity. 

But given the above how could we accept all of those propositions and criteria and deny the conclusions of tritheism or logical contradiction?

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