Amber

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@<<<Amber>>>

IOW, it literally throws anything and everything on the laptop inadmissible in court. 

Pardons do not squash evidence.

That was Best.Korea talking about what people told him privately or on other occasions. It could not have happened here because the moderators would have intervened.

The site can be held liable if it encouraged its members to commit suicide.

The moderators cannot stop private conversations.

Like Best.Korea saying, ‘Many people told me that I should kill myself because I am worthless, but here is why I wont do it:"

@<<<Amber>>>

Case closed.

@<<<Amber>>>

The beauty of words is that they make great salad.

So:

I appreciate that you couldn't respond to my previous questions.

Therefore I will assume that your answers were, "I don't know".

@<<<Amber>>>

Not an "attitude," [a] FACT! 

Not a fact and only thanks to people for centuries like you.  You need to double check who is sic-n-head.

@<<<Amber>>>

ALL transgender person in the US are in fact, mentally ill, and should be in psych wards. 

And it is this attitude,

1} Absolutes truths are eternal. Old news

2} Relative truths have many degrees of angular perception { definition }

3} Falsehoods { truths mixed with lies } are two fold;

...3a} exist as a protection for individual and or society,  and/or,

...3b}  as a detriment for individual and/or society.

4} empathy centers of brain can be turned on or off, as a scientific discover of the brain, via the Bosnia Croatian wars after the dissolution of Yugoslavia  1992 - 95 }

...." After a period of political and economic crisis in the 1980s, the constituent republics of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia split apart, but the unresolved issues caused a series of inter-ethnic Yugoslav Wars. The wars primarily affected Bosnia and Herzegovina, neighbouring parts of Croatia and, some years later, Kosovo. "...

..." that took place in Bosnia and Herzegovina between 1992 and 1995. The war is commonly seen as having started on 6 April 1992, following several earlier violent incidents. It ended on 14 December 1995 when the Dayton Accords were signed. The main belligerents were the forces of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia, and the Republika Srpska, the latter two entities being proto-states led and supplied by Croatia and Serbia, respectively.[11][12] "...

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@<<<Amber>>>

I just said you read it. That is either true or false. No need to get hostile.

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@<<<Amber>>>

Oh you don't know. You've just read it online. Ok.

How do you know?

@<<<Amber>>>

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

You too are an ideologue, who would seek to trample the rights and safety of others.

Paranoia also comes under the broad umbrella of mental illness.

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@<<<Amber>>>

Who did she sleep with besides her husband?

@<<<Amber>>>

I was going to leave this conversation because you aren't changing your mind, but you accused me of being a coward, so I have to respond now.

@RemyBrown

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@<<<Amber>>>

You will not change your mind no matter what I say because you are in a cult, so there is no point in continuing this conversation.

This conversation is over.

LOL!!!

You don't even know what a true 'cult' even is. 

Supporting conservative ideals and objective morality =/= being in a cult, you ignoramus. 

Yeah, tuck tail and run because you [know] I am right, and you cannot disprove/discredit anything I said. 

You don't even know what a true 'cult' even is. 

A cult is a group of people with a cult leader that they will not buck orthodoxy with him on anything (their cult leader is right wing media, which is highly influenced by Trump).  It's why you like RFK (because Charlie Kirk told you it would be a good idea).

Supporting conservative ideals 

What is the definition of a, "conservative ideal"?

Get over it, stop worrying about other peoples sexuality.

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@<<<Amber>>>

You will not change your mind no matter what I say because you are in a cult, so there is no point in continuing this conversation.

This conversation is over.

When you begin on a false premise, your conclusion is equally false. 

The premise is true.

If if if if....what if, patent logical fallacy.

False; I took logic as a class; I know.

Taken out of context. 

That's always the excuse.  You don't state how it was out of context; but it totally had 100% of the context it needed and if this was Harris, then you would be calling her far left.

I have  no knowledge if he did or did not take the ACTUAL so-called vaccine. 

Look it up.

Your party is a fucking joke; it is a cult of personality, and it's why I left the GOP in August.

Psychological projection.

I'm not in a cult; I disagree with Harris plenty (I even disagree with Chase Oliver plenty and I voted for him).

At least you can admit you are a bonafide and certifiable DUMBASS with TDS. 

By your dumbass standards, yes; I am a dumbass by the same way Einstein appears to be dumb by people who don't know physics.  "Only a fool rants about E=MC^2".

I get likes on most of my posts and you don't.  Who's the genuine dumbass?

Uh, no dear, it was not. It was all factually inaccurate. Subjective opinions are not objective opinions.

State one claim that I made that was factually inaccurate.  If not, then you just said the statement to virtue signal to yourself and the people who already agree with you.

I believe every single person who liked my comment on this thread I disagree with massively a lot on other issues; but they know I'm correct here.

You love Trump because of policy group A (which can encompass multiple policies or maybe just 1).  If Harris enacted everything in group A, then you would still hate her.

You hate Harris because of policy group B (which can encompass multiple policies or maybe just 1).  If Trump enacted everything in group B, then you would still love Trump.

You don't have any consistent moral worldview; you just follow a cult of personality.

If Trump did a rally in a Klan uniform and argued the Klan isn't racist; they just stand for their people; then you would simultaneously believe the KKK aren't racist while claiming the democrats are racist for getting endorsed by the KKK (allegedly).

If Harris defends legalized IVF; you call her a baby killer.  If Trump does it, you say he's pro family.

If Harris does inflation; you get angry at her over it.  If Trump does it, then you don't care.

Trump can give free gender surgeries to illegal immigrants in prison and you guys don't care (but would be outraged about it if Harris did it) (Did Trump offer medical care to transgender prisoners? | verifythis.com).  

You guys will criticize Trump for taking the vaccine, but that's only because he trashed it for so long.

You guys will wrap yourselves up in the 1st amendment until Trump calls for banning radical Islamic anti semitic speech, then you will say, "We got to ban hate speech" (only when it's Muslims; not white nationalists).

Your party is a fucking joke; it is a cult of personality, and it's why I left the GOP in August.

Good fucking riddance!  GOP = MAGA and I'm out.  I have TDS and I'm proud too have it.  If it offends the MAGA snowflakes on here, IDGAF!

Everything I said was correct, 

@HistoryBuff

I know he praised nazis.

Agreeing with the interpretation of the US Courts is a fallacious appeal to authority.

you say appeal to authority. I say IT'S LITERALLY THE LAW.

The Courts often overrule previous rulings, changing or invalidating the previous ruling (e.g. Roe V Wade, Dred Scott, etc.).

true. And a court could hypothetically overrule this. And if they did that, you saying she isn't a citizen might make sense. But they haven't overruled that, so you're wrong. 

No serious federal question has been brought to the Courts over the legislative history of the Citizenship clause for over a century because no one has done so.

because no one really questions it. Everyone understands that it is perfectly valid and a good thing. Only a few right wing crackpots say differently. 

Then prove it false. 

someone else already did that for you. but here you go.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/harris-grandparents-candace-owens/

Evidence has been proven via her podcast putting up on the screen birth, death, and marriage records as well as newspaper stories and interviews with people who knew Harris' grandmother personally (who unequivocally stated he is white, not black) and her direct relatives. 

candace owens is a liar.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/harris-grandparents-candace-owens/

I don't think they ruled wrong, I know they ruled wrong just like they did in Roe v Wade.

lol, you just confirmed it again. You confirmed that the courts have ruled that you are wrong. Ego, you are wrong until a court overrules that decision. You can believe that she shouldn't have citizenship. But it is factually untrue to say she isn't a citizen. And you know that, and just confirmed that you know that.

The US Constitution's Bill of Rights, 14th Amendment, legislative history on the Citizenship Clause = truth.

that is something we agree on. However, I agree with the interpretation the US courts have used for the last 100 years. You have a different opinion. 

Her father is not 'black,' he is Indian-Irish-Jewish. Candace Owens has proven this as a fact of her family heritage. 

any sentence that starts with "candace owens has proven" is almost certainly laughably false. Provide evidence of this, or I will disregard it. 

No, the court has not ruled that I am wrong. They misinterpreted the 14th, just as SCOTUS did over Roe v Wade and reversed itself on it 50 years after the fact.

lol you say the court did not rule something, then immediately confirm that the court has ruled that way. You just think they ruled wrong. Do you even read the things you write?

 I've mentioned Candace Owens over a dozen times, and in your response(s) you keep making fallacious allegations of racism about her

oh gotcha. yeah she went SUPER far right and that has lead her to saying all kinds of horrible things. And yes, she is engaging in racist bullshit against a black woman. 

Yes, a podcast is evidence when she is bringing the receipts: news clippings, photos, birth records, death records, family tree history, discussions with actual family members and individuals like Judge Joe Brown who knew Harris' parents - personally!

If these things exist, please provide them. If you cannot, I will ignore this as more bullshit. 

I have linked to the podcasts; you refuse to watch it and see the evidence she gives on chicken bullshit excuses of racism.

I'm not going to do your research for you. This is a debating site. Provide proof of your claims or stop making those claims. 

(PS. Why am I not surprised that you only have two people willing to be added to your friend's list, and one of them is FLRW, your DebartArt twin *FP*)

I don't even know what a "friends" list on an anonymous debate site would be for. But thank you for calling yourself out for being creepy and looking through my profile. 

This claim is demonstrably false. The evidence Owens used to suggest Harris' grandmother died in 1960 refers to a person born in a different year with a different last name.

Owens, in her coverage of this "scoop," flooded the zone with additional questions about Harris' grandmother, suggesting that documents prove she married a man who was not Harris' grandfather while noting a suspicious lack of documentation about the birth of Harris' father, Stanford economist Donald Harris.

when you make up lies about black people not being citizens, that's racist. Why is that confusing?

Still impotent in proving it is a lie.

I've already proven it multiple times. She was born in the US that makes her a citizen, like millions of other americans. The fact that you are choosing to lie about this is super racist. 

Kamala is not black.... Both already proven facts.

Her father is black. Her mother is Indian. She is both Indian and black. How is this confusing for you?

Critics erroneously believe that anyone present in the United States has “subjected” himself “to the jurisdiction” of the United States, which would extend citizenship to the children of tourists, diplomats, and illegal aliens alike.

But that is not what that qualifying phrase means. Its original meaning refers to the political allegiance of an individual and the jurisdiction that a foreign government has over that individual.

you can make that argument to a court if you want. But courts have ruled for 100 years that you are wrong. Until you get that 100 years of judicial rulings overturned, you are wrong. 

I have already provided numerous facts since post #1 and all you've done is say "nuh huh, all lies"

nope. I disproved your nonsense a couple of times now. The most important of which is the fact that she has citizenship. She has the paperwork to prove she is a citizen.

You're calling an actual black woman a racist, eh? How original. 

Are you saying you're a black woman? Or do you think i'm calling harris a racist? If it's the 1st, then congratulations, you're a black woman who is racist against black women. that's a special level of shitty. 

The podcast is evidence presented, you're just too chicken sh*t to review it and be proven wrong. 

lol no. A podcast is not evidence. They can provide evidence in a podcast. But if that is the case, then you should be able to provide the evidence here. You have failed to do that. All you've done is give your opinion on how the law should be read. But that isn't evidence, it's opinion. 

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@Moozer325

Anti racist ideology states that black people cannot be racist because the black race is not in a position of power over the white race.

In other words, Racism = Power + Prejudice. By this standard, black people can be bigoted but not racist per se. I don’t agree with this line of thought, but it is a prominent idea in anti racist thought.

It is espoused by such people as: Robin DeAngelo, Ibram X. Kendi, Ta Nehasi Coates, Tim Wise, Kimberle Crenshaw, Nikole Hannah Jones, as well as various educational associations.

Donald Trump’s entire presidential campaign is about race.

He launched his campaign with an argument over whether all Mexican immigrants were rapists and murderers, or merely most of them.

He’s maintained his relevancy through fall by replacing Latinos with Muslims as the villains of his campaign narrative — including a call to ban them from entering the US.

Trump has been accused of racism for literally as long as he’s been in public life — in his capacities as a real estate developer, a TV star, and now as a politician. At various times, he’s insulted African Americans, the Japanese, Native Americans, Muslim Americans and Latinos.

In 1973, the Trump Management Corporation — run by 27-year-old Donald Trump — was sued by the Department of Justice for violating the Fair Housing Act. Specifically, Trump’s company was accused of refusing to rent to or negotiate with black tenants, changing the terms of leases based on race, and lying to black applicants about whether apartments were available.

I'm guessing Amber's IQ at 73 like Trump's

There is nothing racist about constitutional law where the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment is concerned.

when you make up lies about black people not being citizens, that's racist. Why is that confusing?

I already stated as a matter of fact that both parents were here on Student VISAs. Which means when they expire, they return to their respective country. That makes them foreign nationals. And kids birthed by foreign nationals, like diplomats, are NOT entitled US Citizenship. They are all under the jurisdiction of their homeland. Period. Fact. Period. 

completely false. That only applies if they are in the country in service of their government, like when a diplomat is stationed in a foreign country. If they are in the country for some other reason like tourism, school etc, then their children automatically get citizenship. Which is exactly what happened in Harris' case. 

Thanks for admitting you are a closed-minded ignoramus refusing to do personal research by reviewing facts that will ultimately prove you wrong. 

I'm happy to review facts if you provide them. I'm not going to sift through a 45 minute podcast full of racist bullshit. If you want to present evidence, go for it. But i'm not here to do your work for you. 

 you definitely did not prove me wrong on this subject. 

I quoted the exact law that proves you are wrong. I gave you the exact exceptions for birth citizenship. You ignored it and just pretended like you were right for some some reason. I even showed you how the case you specifically cited proved the exact opposite of what you said it did. You ignored that too.

rove her wrong then if that's the "likely" answer. 

prove what wrong? Her parents were students. That is an objective fact. The rest is just racist bullshit. 

And if you think i'm going to wade through a 45 minute, racist diatribe just to try to figure out what you're talking about, you're kidding yourself.

Especially since I know that when I prove it wrong, you'll move the goal posts anyway, just like you did the last time I proved you wrong in this exact discussion. It's why you blocked me. You can't handle being so painfully wrong.