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what do you mean by "(validity of) conspiracies"?

Former president, while having illegal documents in his possession (illegality confirmed by his top lawyer on retainer), stores them in his home safe (on the advise of his attorney). Probable cause?

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At the agreed point. Any of these subjects can be defined, modeled, compared. It really would be up to people if they'd think it important enough.

Perhaps they don't. imo Hollywood and other propaganda peddlers are actually much to blame - for obfuscating and ridiculing the term that not long ago could have been used in technical terms.

no worries. it's a thought experiment. and a dream.

Regardless of 'conspiracy theory' conveying a very clear message in your own head, where does it end, objectively?

At which point a theory is to be filed under some other category?

Unless you can define it somehow, it could be anything.

Conflating Bigfoot and 9/11 is a problem.

Well you see, you didn't define it. It's just examples. However. JFK, 9/11 would firmly land within my definition. Except UFOs. I think it would be good to have some idea about the limits - where some theory is not a conspiracy any more. Since JFK, 9/11 are definitely conspiracies, i think we're getting somewhere.

And that's where the 'appeal' should come from. Because you can go to any social media site and discuss  bigfoot, but here, the limits are  defined. When someone creates a discussion about "the ghosts did it", they are kindly directed towards the "supernatural" section instead of conspiracy.

yes, that's what the classic definition comes down to.

apart from the 'twilight zone' of non-conspiratorial theories

that nobody can define precisely (do you have an actual definition of colloquial conspiracy btw?)  and therefore

leaving it open to pretty much everything that anyone could define as such that would include anything they see fit.

anything. once you have anything, you have nothing.

i think i do get your pov re 'push' for 'appeal'  tho.

Could not find the word "conspiracy" in any of those debates.

Thanks for the support!

Exactly, something like

Bigfoot is really an alien.

10 percent of Sasquatches might be gay.

Farmers say Sasquatches occasionally sodomize domestic cows.

are just few examples why it shouldn't  "end up being about the conspiracy that keeps evidence from being revealed."

but rather a theory about it.

Discarding standard definition has a very harmful side effect - it trivializes real discourse about real crimes with real people suffering.

Good point. Debate website should definitely promote fair discussion.

So it's possible to discuss conspiracy theory formally using some method best suited

to reveal, say, inconsistencies in a given theory.

Absolutely needed!

conspiracy -

a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.