"Then argue that in the confines of the debate" Can you be more specific?
"I remember YYW had a good guide on BOP one tine that I completely agree with." Who is YYW?
As someone who is pro life, the BoP is on the pro lifer to confirm why abortion should be illegal. They wish to prohibit something, so they must provide proof as to why abortion should be illegal. This is easy, to the pro lifer, abortion kills an unborn child. From this, the BoP is shared as to whether a fetus is a human being.
If I think the BoP should be shared, then I put that in the rules. Otherwise, I determine who gets the BoP.
"The BOP is something that is up to the judges unless debaters bring it up and debate it." The BoP is on those that wish for something to be prohibited or mandatory since they wish to enforce their view on others.
"The forfeit rule is stupid because best arguments should win even if I only debate the first round and you debate all 5." Fine, I don't plan on including debates with the forfeit rule in the future if I remember this conversation. However, it is poor conduct and poor arguing, so should voters vote like that when arguing? I think they should.
"Plus there is no reason you should not go first." I do this one because I want the last word in debates and this is how I get it.
"including how you would vote against me for a comment." If your referring to now, the blocking happened before I made the comment. Besides I heard from someone else that what you say in the comment section counts.
@Ragnar
I don't want to commit revenge voting despite being ticked off by RM. If needed, I could simply not vote on this debate.
"I also agree a religion can be peaceful." This is a concession. Stuff you say in the comments matters and I plan on voting primarily for Pro. Also, why dd you block me?
Sorry, but I forgot to put the, "I will waive the 1st round and my opponent will waive the last round" rule in the debate challenge that I sent to you. Which one of us should argue first?
I meant "than" if that is the correct spelling. I think the point of Rule 2 is to basically give me the last word. I plan on waving Round 1 per the rules.
I apologize for forfeiting. I think I was too involved with schoolwork. Given that your a Christian, I would expect you to forgive me for the forfeit. It's the Christian thing to do after all.
I think that if you don't care about politics by the individual's standards, you shouldn't vote. It saves you the effort and the only people that should participate in the government should actually care. This way, the people that don't care don't screw the representation of Congress.
"Well I'll start out by saying that America's very political system is right wing" Compared to China, yes. Compared to Africa, no.
"in America most people don't even know what socialism is and are only told that it is bad." Then explain why Bernie Sanders almost won against Hillary Clinton in the primaries. If Hillary was a male, then Bernie would have won since many people voted for Hillary solely because she was a woman. Also, rational wiki is not a reliable source. They are biased.
"Canada may have a lower GDP, but it also has a higher standard of living" I measure Standard of living by GDP per person on average. It's numerical, which I think is easy to understand.
"California is the US state with the highest GDP and it is considered one of the most left leaning." This is because urban areas tend to have a higher GDP per capita then rural areas and California is pretty urban compared to a state like Mississippi.
"Also America regularly and continually engages in economic imperialism" Can you cite this?
"many more left leaning countries are smaller and were less developed to begin with" What caused them to be poor while America became rich? If you blame colonialism, America does not engage in colonialism much without turning the areas it conquerors into states, thereby giving them representation in the US gov. The US used to be a colony it's self. If Colonialism helped the US but somehow hurt other nations, then why would colonialism sometimes be beneficial and sometimes be hurtful?
"Many countries which right wingers point at and say "see, socialism is crap" were poor to begin with and actually improved under socialism." Venezuela did not improve under socialism. They had to go into inflation and right wing Columbia had to accept around 1 million immigrants from Venezuela that fled due to better opportunities that right wing policies generated.
"Our "left" is actually closer to centrists by universal standards." Can you cite this from someplace reliable?
"That being said, you've never experienced real left wing government and are gravely mistaken about it's true nature." Other people have. Canada is a left wing country and their GDP per capita is about 80% that of the US. Quebec is much more left then the rest of Canada and their GDP per capita is about 60% of relatively Capitalist USA.
"A dem-soc on the other hand is a full on socialist who is totally against capitalism." Didn't a Dem-Soc use to be the definition that you described for a social democrat? But then they changed it because people realized that it failed?
Why does the economic left constantly change names when their policies fail? First, they pick communism as their title. Next, Socialism. Next, Democratic Socialism. Now, Social Democracy. What's next?
He signed up for it. Therefore he accepted the terms of the debate. Not to mention that I provided evidence/proof as well, and he forfeited a round. The BOP should be on those wanting something to be illegal. If there is no reason to keep something illegal, then it should be legal.
Matthew 7:13 states, "Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many."
Matthew 25:46 states, "And these will depart into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
"Then argue that in the confines of the debate" Can you be more specific?
"I remember YYW had a good guide on BOP one tine that I completely agree with." Who is YYW?
As someone who is pro life, the BoP is on the pro lifer to confirm why abortion should be illegal. They wish to prohibit something, so they must provide proof as to why abortion should be illegal. This is easy, to the pro lifer, abortion kills an unborn child. From this, the BoP is shared as to whether a fetus is a human being.
If I think the BoP should be shared, then I put that in the rules. Otherwise, I determine who gets the BoP.
How can he change the name of the title?
"The BOP is something that is up to the judges unless debaters bring it up and debate it." The BoP is on those that wish for something to be prohibited or mandatory since they wish to enforce their view on others.
"The forfeit rule is stupid because best arguments should win even if I only debate the first round and you debate all 5." Fine, I don't plan on including debates with the forfeit rule in the future if I remember this conversation. However, it is poor conduct and poor arguing, so should voters vote like that when arguing? I think they should.
"Plus there is no reason you should not go first." I do this one because I want the last word in debates and this is how I get it.
Are the rules I make for my debates okay?
@RationalMadman
I didn't publicly complain when people voted for you and when I thought I would lose the debate. I expect the same courtesy.
" Imagine if this were a physical competition, we do not credit the extra miles someone runs outside of a marathon." Good point.
I think the mistake is small and people still understand the basic message of what your saying.
@Wisdom - this debate is for you. Please accept if you want to.
"including how you would vote against me for a comment." If your referring to now, the blocking happened before I made the comment. Besides I heard from someone else that what you say in the comment section counts.
@Ragnar
I don't want to commit revenge voting despite being ticked off by RM. If needed, I could simply not vote on this debate.
"I also agree a religion can be peaceful." This is a concession. Stuff you say in the comments matters and I plan on voting primarily for Pro. Also, why dd you block me?
Why did I get blocked by RationalMadman?
He'll probably respond. Be patient.
I'm playing Devils advocate when I say this. Can you add a source?
I think the BoP is shared.
Are you backwarsden from DDO?
I checked the forms and couldn't find him. Can you send a link stating who Ebuc is?
Who has the BoP?
I'm scared of Rational Madman.
@Mharman
This guy reminds me of backwarsden. Who is Mustardness?
@Moeology
Is weed for medical use okay?
Interesting debate. I plan on voting on it if I have the time for it when it is done.
There doesn't have to be.
Finally we agree on something.
I did that so I would get the last word unless there was a forfeit.
Sorry, but I forgot to put the, "I will waive the 1st round and my opponent will waive the last round" rule in the debate challenge that I sent to you. Which one of us should argue first?
I think I sent you a challenge but I want to make sure before I try again. I would prefer you going first so I get the last word.
There are anti gunners out there who only want guns reserved for military and police.
People have said that the US spends as much on their military as the next 17 countries put together. Should we have a military this big or bigger?
I'm considering accepting this debate. I support the death penalty for crimes other then murder.
I didn't think of it like that. Want more rounds after this if there is not a consensus delivered in 2 rounds?
I meant "than" if that is the correct spelling. I think the point of Rule 2 is to basically give me the last word. I plan on waving Round 1 per the rules.
I plan on voting.
At the time I made that, I would call myself a Christian who hates God. I should change it but I don't know what to change it too.
As of right now, your profile does.
I apologize for forfeiting. I think I was too involved with schoolwork. Given that your a Christian, I would expect you to forgive me for the forfeit. It's the Christian thing to do after all.
I think that if you don't care about politics by the individual's standards, you shouldn't vote. It saves you the effort and the only people that should participate in the government should actually care. This way, the people that don't care don't screw the representation of Congress.
If you'll allow me to win this one, I'll claim the win.
"Well I'll start out by saying that America's very political system is right wing" Compared to China, yes. Compared to Africa, no.
"in America most people don't even know what socialism is and are only told that it is bad." Then explain why Bernie Sanders almost won against Hillary Clinton in the primaries. If Hillary was a male, then Bernie would have won since many people voted for Hillary solely because she was a woman. Also, rational wiki is not a reliable source. They are biased.
"Canada may have a lower GDP, but it also has a higher standard of living" I measure Standard of living by GDP per person on average. It's numerical, which I think is easy to understand.
"California is the US state with the highest GDP and it is considered one of the most left leaning." This is because urban areas tend to have a higher GDP per capita then rural areas and California is pretty urban compared to a state like Mississippi.
"Also America regularly and continually engages in economic imperialism" Can you cite this?
"many more left leaning countries are smaller and were less developed to begin with" What caused them to be poor while America became rich? If you blame colonialism, America does not engage in colonialism much without turning the areas it conquerors into states, thereby giving them representation in the US gov. The US used to be a colony it's self. If Colonialism helped the US but somehow hurt other nations, then why would colonialism sometimes be beneficial and sometimes be hurtful?
"Many countries which right wingers point at and say "see, socialism is crap" were poor to begin with and actually improved under socialism." Venezuela did not improve under socialism. They had to go into inflation and right wing Columbia had to accept around 1 million immigrants from Venezuela that fled due to better opportunities that right wing policies generated.
"Our "left" is actually closer to centrists by universal standards." Can you cite this from someplace reliable?
"That being said, you've never experienced real left wing government and are gravely mistaken about it's true nature." Other people have. Canada is a left wing country and their GDP per capita is about 80% that of the US. Quebec is much more left then the rest of Canada and their GDP per capita is about 60% of relatively Capitalist USA.
"technocracy" What is technocracy?
"A dem-soc on the other hand is a full on socialist who is totally against capitalism." Didn't a Dem-Soc use to be the definition that you described for a social democrat? But then they changed it because people realized that it failed?
Why does the economic left constantly change names when their policies fail? First, they pick communism as their title. Next, Socialism. Next, Democratic Socialism. Now, Social Democracy. What's next?
What is the difference?
"Try to have as many debates as I have" I can't due to school. I'm taking AP Chem. That class is hard.
If you believe polygamy should be illegal, what do you think the punishment should be?
If you are referring to your rank, you only have a higher rating because you engage in more debates.
Isin't a space force illegal?
He signed up for it. Therefore he accepted the terms of the debate. Not to mention that I provided evidence/proof as well, and he forfeited a round. The BOP should be on those wanting something to be illegal. If there is no reason to keep something illegal, then it should be legal.
I wanted the BOP to be on Con. Since nmvarco signed up, he agreed for the BoP to be on him.
"The debate should be about arms for a right" It kindof is.
Matthew 7:13 states, "Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many."
Matthew 25:46 states, "And these will depart into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
https://www.openbible.info/topics/hell
https://bible.org/article/what-bible-says-about-hell
No. I was a little curious. I don't know too much on this issue.
What is the muller investigation?