Israel plays the victim while committing war crimes

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You are not the victim. You are the occupator who stole the land.

  • Israel continued its bombardment of the Gaza Strip overnight, hitting residential buildings and reportedly killing at least two Palestinian journalists.
  • The bombing came as Israel announced a “total blockade” on Gaza, including a ban on admitting food and fuel, amid increasing indications of a possible ground operation. Such a siege by the Israeli army, with the intent to starve a population, is a war crime under United Nations statutes.

  • Israel carried out heavy bombardments across the Gaza Strip on Wednesday for the fifth day as more than 2 million Palestinians lost electricity after Israel put the territory under full siege, following an infiltration by Hamas militants into Israel in one of the deadliest attacks ever on the country.

  • Witnesses have described widespread destruction of entire neighborhoods in Gaza City from Israeli strikes overnight, as residents shared videos online showing children pulled wounded or dead from under the rubble.

  • It all comes as Israel and Gaza experience one of the most dramatic escalations in violence in recent memory, with concerns the chaos could spread to the occupied West Bank and different countries in the Middle East.

  • The number of Palestinians in Gaza killed by Israeli forces since the weekend has now surpassed 1,000, according to officials in Gaza, with more than half those killed women and children.

  • The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees said 11 of its employees were killed in the Gaza Strip.

  • Hamas, which governs Gaza, said earlier Wednesday that the territory would be plunged into "complete darkness" within the day. Hours later, Gaza's main power plant shut down. Israel has put Gaza under complete siege, barring the entry of fuel, food, water, medicine and more into the territory.

  • Tasneem Ahel, a dental student sheltering in her uncle's home after her house was destroyed in Gaza, said she had been wounded in a previous war with Israel. She said adults are rationing food so that the children sheltering in the home are not hungry.
  • "We don't have water. We don't have food. We don't have anything to live," Ahel said.
  • She said feels like she's facing death at any moment from Israeli warplanes.
  • "They steal my dreams and our dreams again," Ahel said.

  • The Biden administration said there are talks to create a safe corridor for civilians, echoing a call from the U.N. World Food Programme to create emergency humanitarian corridors. The Palestinian Health Ministry is also calling for the same to allow medication and medical teams in, as well as to allow those with complex wounds out of Gaza to seek emergency treatment elsewhere.
  • All of the Gaza Strip's borders are closed, leaving Palestinian civilians with nowhere to escape or seek safety. Around one-tenth of Gaza's population of about 2.3 million people is internally displaced. Many have sought shelter in U.N.-run schools.

  • In addition to the more than 1,000 Palestinians killed, over 5,000 people have been wounded by Israeli bombs since Saturday, officials in Gaza said. The Palestinian Health Ministry said Wednesday that it is rationing services due to the electricity crisis.
  • Doctors Without Borders' head of mission in the Palestinian territories, Léo Cans, said in a statement that hospitals are overwhelmed in Gaza. He said that among the complex cases that doctors are trying to treat was that of a 13-year-old boy whose body was almost completely burned after a fire broke out from a bomb that fell next his house.

  • "The declaration of war must not, under any circumstances, lead to collective punishment of the population of Gaza," Cans said, adding that not even ambulances and hospitals have been spared damage from the airstrikes.
  • The International Committee of the Red Cross' spokesperson in Gaza, Hisham Mhanna, explained that water and sewage treatment plants also need electricity to function. "And we fear that hospitals may turn into graveyards if they are not fed with electricity," he told NPR, adding that there are also patients struggling to receive treatment for other ailments and needs.
  • "We're talking about sick children, chronic diseases patients, elderly people, pregnant women who may have no access to any medical supply or aid or service in the next few hours or days," Mhanna said.

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There are a lot of innocent people that are dead and will die because of the actions of Hamas. They have harmed their own people, more than the Israelis ever did. 

I think because you are disingenuous and don't buy your own arguments and because you also hold influence over the beliefs of sincere but stupid people, that it is very irresponsible to make this argument. 
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There are a lot of innocent people that are dead and will die because of the actions of Hamas. 
You mean because of Israel.
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You are supporting hamas and those people dancing in the streets celebrating the death of people in a music festival,  would celebrate yours as well. 


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Just a day ago, you were against Israel and for Palestine. Now you are against Palestine and for Israel.

So what we have here is a flip flop.
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Should Americans give all the stolen land back to native Americans?
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Kinda hard, given that they exterminated 99% of them.
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There are plenty left.  Millions

So answer 


Shoukd America give back all the stolen land to native Americans 
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Only if you think that its wrong to steal land.

Do you think that its wrong to steal land?
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Just a day ago, you were against Israel and for Palestine. Now you are against Palestine and for Israel.

So what we have here is a flip flop.
There is a lot of moral clarity here,  and my criticisms of Israel was not about me taking the side of hamas but of Palestinians.

I don't think changing your mind is a negative trait, but my mind hasn't changed much. I like being a contrarian and bringing a different view to the conversation, but seeing all the people who are in support of hamas right now and hiding it under a phrase like "free palestine" makes me sick to my stomach. 

There was a lot of moral clarity after 9/11 and I thought something similar would happen here, but unfortunately  society has went in the shitter and I am seeng reality different than I thought. 

The fact is Ukraine was a morally ambiguous situation and a lot of people supported the Ukraine. I assumed with so much moral clarity on the Israel issue, the same response would be had. It's unfortunately not true and I understand why. 

It's  the whole mentality of 

Strength= oppressor

Weakness= victim

It's a poisonous mentality and adopted so wide partially because of the Jews and as you can see it didn't benefit them so hopefully they learn from it seeing this mentality I their face while their people suffer
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Americans do owe native Americans a lot of extra sovereignty and have actually granted them what they could. 

However you should ask him if native Americans would be justified bombing American hospitals, raping women and torturing whites
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Answer my question first

Should America give back all its land to native Americans?
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All native American lands lie within the US and are subject to US law
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you should ask him if native Americans would be justified bombing American hospitals, raping women and torturing whites
Hey, dont help him. Let him make his own question using his own effort, otherwise he will never learn.
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Try answering my question directly


Stop running
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Do you think that its wrong to steal land?

Its a simple yes or no question.
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Also if native Americans attacked a US city we would not use the restraint Israel uses


We would wipe them.out
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Do you like potatoes?

All questions from you will be answered with a question 
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Also if native Americans attacked a US city we would not use the restraint Israel uses
We would wipe them.out
We know. You already wiped out 99% of them. No need to brag about your crimes that much.
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All those that wish to complain may file a strongly worded letter
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Yeah, that makes up for everything. (Sarcasm)
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Anyone that doesn't like it can stuff it.

And then cry themselves to sleep
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Correct that it is within US borders. Incorrect that it has identical laws to it's surrounding areas. I almost don't want to state that much though because you have a tendency to back track by means of pedantic behavior. 

Also if native Americans attacked a US city we would not use the restraint Israel uses
I think America uses a lot of restraint and they would not target every single native American but the terrorists. 

I know you have called for Israel to wipe out Palestinians in Gaza, but there are literally Palestinians in the Israeli military who are patriots and  would not help if the goal was genocide as opposed to wiping out hamas and those who help hamas and support them
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I never said identical.  Even cities don't have Identical laws.  But they all fall under US jurisdiction 

Please cite where I said Israel shoukd wipe out all Palestinians 


I call for the utter destruction of hamas and all its followers
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You never lived near a reservation. They have their own courts, their own police. Their own jails. It is not the same as being in another city. They really don't even have to worry about the bill of rights for the mot part.
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I certainly did.  More than one.  Tribal police and courts are no different that city courts.  Ultimately they fall under US jurisdiction 

And they must follow the constitution 
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The U.S. falls under NATO, so according to your logic the United States is nato. Here is your fallacy 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_division#:~:text=A%20fallacy%20of%20division%20is,or%20some%20of%20its%20parts.
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The US is mot UNDER nato.  The US is PART of nato.  Nato has no constitution or system of laws.  It is a military alliance
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Did you know that native Americans can have casinos in states where doing that is illegal because the states authority is weakened I. THeir areas as they are seen as sovereign nations?
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Just read the article o. The fallacy of division