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@Vegasgiants
Must be why he wasn't elected....oh.....wait...
67% of Democrats don't like Biden in 2023. A 2020 Biden was way more popular.
Who can assume the presidency of the USA?
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@Greyparrot
A 2020 Biden was way more popular.
*Honk! Honk!*
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@IwantRooseveltagain
We’ve had 10% GDP growth under Biden
This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard you say.
You also left out a few nuggets from your absurd take on Biden's economy such as:
Weekly earnings DOWN 3.4%
Home prices UP 35.1%
Gasoline prices UP 51.2%
Trade deficit UP 30.1%
Consumer Price Index UP 15.7%
And the S&P 500 lags Trump's gains by 10%. Home ownership is HALF of Trump's score. And Gas production lags behind Trump's gains by 25%
So much for your great Biden Economy.
Also, Biden only added 3.2 million jobs when you adjust compared to 2019, which is HALF of the jobs Trump created.
Wells Fargo and multiple other institutions also say they believe Biden's economy will enter a recession soon if it hasn't already.
So your man is doing a HORRIBLE job.
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@Greyparrot
Oooooh a poll. I heard they said Hillary would be president once. Lol
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@Vegasgiants
Thank you for your sample size of one.
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@Greyparrot
@FLRW
@IwantRooseveltagain
@Vegasgiants
None of you are describing what makes a man a President your describing what makes a person an economist. lol.......
Not that I do not agree with your view of any of these men not being an economist....
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@Public-Choice
This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard you say.
And on top of that, he compares the best quarter with yearly GDP.... Anyone can have a good quarter.
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@Greyparrot
Right back at you
And on top of that, he compares the best quarter with yearly GDP.... Anyone can have a good quarter.
That’s a lie.
I am comparing annual GDP growth of the 2 Presidents
Trump never did better than 3%
Biden had 6% growth for the entire year in 2021. So twice as good as any year Trump had
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@Public-Choice
Home prices UP 35.1%
So are home prices going up a good thing or a bad thing? Or does it depend on who the President is?
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@Public-Choice
WRONG
Biden has created way more jobs than Trump.
Biden - 13 million new jobs
Trump - only 5 million new jobs.
“When Trump took office in January 2017, the U.S. had 145.6 million nonfarm jobs, the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ standard measurement for job counting. After Trump’s first 30 months — the same number of months that Biden has been in office — the number of jobs had risen to 150.8 million”
You lose. Trump is a loser.
Gasoline prices UP 51.2%
Republicans often have cheap gas because the economy is typically in recession during Republican Administrations
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@Public-Choice
Wells Fargo and multiple other institutions also say they believe Biden's economy will enter a recession soon if it hasn't already.
You can only hope. Or in your case pray! Pray for God to start a recession. While you’re at it pray for another pandemic. Lol.
So your man is doing a HORRIBLE job.
Isn’t this all God’s fault? Are you suggesting God is not in control of the US economy? Some Christian you are.
You lose. Trump is a loser.
That loser is going to be reelected because you won't replace Biden with a person that can actually get us back to 2016 economic levels.
Your cult like obsession with Biden will be the end of us all when Trump takes over.
That loser is going to be reelected because you won't replace Biden with a person that can actually get us back to 2016 economic levels.
Bullshit, we are already past 2016 economic levels.
How’s DeeSantis doing? Lol
“U.S. GDP for 2022 was $25,462.70B, a 9.21% increase from 2021. U.S. gdp for 2021 was $23,315.08B, a 10.71% increase from 2020. U.S. gdp for 2020 was $21,060.47B, a 1.5% decline from 2019”
US GDP was 17 trillion in 2016
It was 22 trillion in 2022
How’s DeeSantis doing? Lol
Don't know, don't care. There's nobody from either party that's gonna stop Trump now. Too many cultists on both sides.
Raising the GDP and redistributing the wealth to the elites looks great on paper, but the average person is only seeing the price tags.
Don't know, don't care.
So funny. He was your guy, then he turned out to have a glass jaw.
There's nobody from either party that's gonna stop Trump now.
You’ve also been predicting a recession for the last 2 years, so…
You’ve also been predicting a recession for the last 2 years, so…
Let's see how that 7.4 percent mortgage rate works out. Didn't work out so well in 2001.
Let's see how that 7.4 percent mortgage rate works out. Didn't work out so well in 2001.
Keep rooting for failure. That’s your best strategy.
And the Great Bush Recession was caused by deregulation, not high interest rates.
Bush was elected
9/11 happened while he was busy cutting brush
Interest rates were lowered to rock bottom levels for the next 20 years
Bush deregulated the economy and we got disaster. The worst economy since the Great Depression. A huge 800 billion dollar bailout followed
But then Trump said “hold my beer” and we got 16% unemployment and an even bigger bailout
So you’ve already given up on DeeSantis, who’s the next loser you are going to endorse?
who’s the next loser you are going to endorse?
Sure as hell isn't Biden.
Sure as hell isn't Biden.
Ok But who? Are you afraid to endorse? You are already 0 for 1 this election.
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@Public-Choice
I can tell you looked at absolutely ZERO of what I linked to.
You linked to a 30 minute video without even hinting at what I was supposed to be looking for. No, I'm not sitting through that. If the case is so simple you should be able to put together a few sentences explaining it. Then, perhaps I'll be interested in the video.
Please summarize the case against him.Read it here:
These are the allegations. I'm asking for the case.
Obama inherited a trash economy. Trump inherited a nearly-fully-employed one. It's easy to add 7 million jobs when tens of millions are out of work... It's much more of an accomplishment to add 6 million jobs to a nearly fully-employed economy.
So Obama left with a nearly fully employed economy. Ok, that's refreshing to hear from someone on the right.
That still doesn't change the fact that the pace of job creation slowed down when Trump took office. It's not a significant slow down at all, and I don't blame Trump for any of that. I seem to agree with you that it was a natural product of a nearly fully employed economy. The point is that you and every other Trump defender gives Trump credit for the job market, despite also admitting that we were doing just fine before he took over and nothing significantly changed.
But either way, you conveniently ignored the 10 other things I listed about the economy
Because I'm not interested in debating point by point every economic indicator you can think of, so I just picked the first. Besides, I put just as much thought and effort into refuting your first point as you did rambling off your list that you probably just googled.
If you think there's one metric that demonstrates Trump's economic greatness I'll comment on it, otherwise I just stick to what I've already said, Trump didn't do anything special to be able to take credit for the position we were in. That was a continuation of the path we were already on and there's no evidence things would have been significantly worse under anyone else. Trump was merely the benefactor of the strong position he inherited.
That's not to say he wasn't good on the economy, but that requires looking at his actions and decisions, not merely by looking at our positioning before COVID. And if all you're going to do is tout our position during his tenure, then you have to include COVID or you're just cherry picking.
Trump very likely had the greatest economy of America's existence before he fucked it up with lockdowns.
But he didn't. The lockdowns were implemented by the states over Trump's objections.
Another example of how presidents get way too much of the credit and the blame for the economy under their watch.
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@Double_R
@Public-Choice
But he didn't. The lockdowns were implemented by the states over Trump's objections.
That may be true, but the public perception of trusting Fauci/Birx at the time was a passive greenlight for all of their recommendations which the States then based their policies on. Especially of note was the claim that taking the Pharma vaccine would stop/slow the spread when we now know it never did anything of the sort. Poor judgement and blind trust of Big Pharma has consequences.
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@Greyparrot
Poor judgement and blind trust of Big Pharma has consequences
Unlike trusting Jimmy Dore. Trusting Jimmy Dore has no consequences.
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@Best.Korea
Jimmy Dore hates Trump. You are not one of those Trump cultists?
Someone in a cult is inherently less trustworthy than someone outside a cult.
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@Double_R
without even hinting
I mean... the title of the video is:
Biden / Poroshenko leaked calls
I had assumed you were caught up with what the GOP charges were, but I can see that the liberal media has not done its job... again...
These are the allegations. I'm asking for the case.
If you had bothered to click on the first hyperlink within the first paragraph, you would have received the "case." Though I feel this is a disingenuous retort from you, tbh. If you are asking about a legal case, there isn't one. But that doesn't mean the allegations never happened. It also doesn't mean the allegations themselves are not a case.
At any rate, it is abundantly obvious to me that you didn't look too closely at all at anything I gave you. So I feel I wasted my time and yours by actually doimg all the work that your news organizations should have done.
I'm not interested in debating point by point every economic indicator you can think of
Then a horrible economist you would make. An economy is not just a GDP number and unemployment statistic. If you took an economics class in college (I'm assuming you went to college) you would know that.
And my indicators are not off-the-wall straw-grasping shit. They are real and scientifically-proven metrics which economists from almost all backgrounds use to determine the shape of an economy.
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@Greyparrot
@Double_R
The lockdowns were implemented by the states over Trump's objections.
That isn't true, actually. Trump did not do federal lockdowns, but he did pressure states (and businesses) via conference calls to lock down.
He actually held multiple calls with state leaders and told them, essentially, what his position was and to lock down. One of his more infamous calls was to the 13,000 largest businesses saying, effectively, you should follow our mitigation suggestions.
Trump's mitigation suggestions were requiring masks, limiting capacity to a max of 50 people if you had enough square footage (idr the actual square footage per person he suggested) and offering hand sanitizer and closing at 8PM at night. That was all Trump's doing.
Trump was actually a very pro-lockdown President until his reelection campaign. That's when he changed his tune.
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@Greyparrot
@IwantRooseveltagain
@Vegasgiants
What does assuming the ability of being an economic advisor have to do with the ability of being a President of the United States of America?
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@Public-Choice
Trump was actually a very pro-lockdown President until his reelection campaign. That's when he changed his tune.
This is what I meant when Trump was decidedly pro Fauci/Birx before he was against Fauci.
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@Greyparrot
Jimmy Dore hates Trump.
Just like you hate Trump. (wink wink)
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@Best.Korea
wink back at you, Trumper.