Let’s face it, MAGA voters are stupid

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You mean the Corporate media cartel talking endlessly about an insurrection that happened 3 years ago with no indictments for insurrection?
No, I was explaining why corporate media is irrelevant to the indictments themselves. Let me know when you would like to respond to my post.

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why corporate media is irrelevant to the indictments themselves
Oh, And I guess by extension, insurrection as defined by the media propaganda is also irrelevant. Noted.
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Ignoring the central point of my post yet again. Noted.

The job of the media is to bring real world issues to the table and cover those stories proportionally to both their impact and the strength of the evidence supporting them. That’s exactly what the media has done with regards to their insurrection coverage.

The standard for proving a crime beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law is much higher than the standard for which any claim is reasonable to believe. Trump supporters love to confuse a court of law with the court of public opinion because it gives them permission to shut off any critical thinking abilities they have. Your conflation of these two different things is yet another example of the OP’s point being demonstrated.
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You mean the Corporate media cartel talking endlessly about an insurrection that happened 3 years ago with no indictments for insurrection? 
Now they are a cartel. You forgot to also call them a regime.

Some idiots may think that the first time we had a transfer of power that wasn’t peaceful in the United States isn’t newsworthy, but that’s because they are idiots.

The foot soldiers have been arrested and put in jail, some for seditious conspiracy. Now it’s time for the people who instigated and led the insurrection to face justice.
Even Mitch McConnell said this after he cowardly refused to vote for impeachment.

Of course all the idiots say it’s a political witch hunt, but again that’s because they are idiots.

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[IwantRooseveltagain] Some idiots may think that the first time we had a transfer of power that wasn’t peaceful in the United States isn’t newsworthy, but that’s because they are idiots.
Did you forget the civil war again IWRA?


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For some people, American history ended in 2020 and started in 2016.
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Lets face it, every single human that has ever lived is a blithering fucktard.
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Lets face it, every single human that has ever lived is a blithering fucktard.
Well, that's it folks. Wrap it up, we're done here. DART helped humanity finally realize was Socrates was saying the whole time.

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Its true, anyone who disagrees with anyone is a blithering fucktard. Everyone disagrees. The fucktards vote and you get fucktard govt and fucktard policies. 
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Stupidity has no limit no matter what collective you bow to. 
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For some people, American history ended in 2020 and started in 2016.
If you just want to post YouTube videos or post an unsubstantiated statement followed by “your thoughts” you should really be on Facebook. This is a debate site where you make a point in your own words, then you back up any facts or statistics with sources and then highlight some key points you thought were important from the source you used with a quote or two.

Most of your posts don’t meet this criteria 

GP has no clue how to use this site

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Did you forget the civil war again IWRA?
Even then, when Lincoln was elected we had a peaceful transfer of power. The war came after Lincoln was inaugurated, and it wasn’t to install another president or prevent one from being installed.

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Even then, when Lincoln was elected we had a peaceful transfer of power.
If you just want to post an unsubstantiated statement of “your thoughts” you should really be on Facebook.

and it wasn’t to install another president or prevent one from being installed.
Rubbish:


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Did you forget the civil war again IWRA?
Even then, when Lincoln was elected we had a peaceful transfer of power. The war came after Lincoln was inaugurated, and it wasn’t to install another president or prevent one from being installed.
Right.... so Jefferson Davis wasn't "another president" I see greyparrot beat me to it.

So we have some police being shoved vs large caliber mortars, but to you that's not precedent because Lincoln was sworn in. Okay...

I'm sure the Jan 6 crowd would have accepted Biden being sworn in as president of New York and California and nothing else if that helps clear things up.

Anyway though this isn't the first time there has been violent disagreement over the future of the federal government, it wasn't the first time people tried to cheat, it wouldn't have been the first time they ignored the electors (or choose electors based on their preference rather than the governors).

It is news worthy though because it's the first time in a long time people were angry enough to do something like this no matter what help they may have had from DOJ false flaggers.
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You guys aren’t getting it. There was only one President, Abraham Lincoln. The south was never recognized as an independent country by any nation. They lost. They are losers. 

Right.... so Jefferson Davis wasn't "another president"
No he wasn’t. Certainly not of the United States and certainly not recognized by the international community. 

Anyway though this isn't the first time there has been violent disagreement over the future of the federal government,
The south never tried to say Lincoln was not the President of the United States. The Civil War had nothing to do with the peaceful transfer of power. You are confused.

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it wasn't the first time people tried to cheat, 
It absolutely is the first time an incumbent President or a candidate for the Presidency tried to cheat

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It is news worthy though because it's the first time in a long time people were angry enough to do something like this no matter what help they may have had from DOJ false flaggers.
You may dream of Liberty but you live in an alternate reality. Why weren’t you there on Jan 6? If you truly believe the election was stolen then you had an obligation to be there. You are no patriot.

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It absolutely is the first time an incumbent President or a candidate for the Presidency tried to cheat

"The results of the election remain among the most disputed ever. Although it is not disputed that Tilden outpolled Hayes in the popular vote, there were wide allegations of electoral fraud, election violence, and other disfranchisement of predominantly Republican Black voters. After a first count of votes, Tilden had won 184 electoral votes to Hayes's 165, with 20 votes from four states unresolved. In Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina, both parties reported their candidate to have won the state. In Oregon, one elector was replaced after being declared illegal for having been an "elected or appointed official." The question of who should have been awarded those electoral votes is the source of the continued controversy."

"To date, it remains the election that yielded the highest voter turnout of the eligible voting-age population in American history, at 82.6%"
Sound familiar?

Common cause: when people are ready to kill each other they turn out, they're also more willing to cheat.
Direct cause: The turnout appears higher because people cast fraudulent ballots inflating the numbers above the accurate count.

You don't think either of those candidates asked anyone to "find some votes"?
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If you think about it, Lincoln was the only technically illegitimate president in US History as the electoral votes of the Confederate states were thrown out.

During the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860, the electoral votes of the Confederate states were not counted. Lincoln, the Republican candidate, won the election, but his name was not even on the ballot in most of the Southern states. The Southern states had seceded from the Union and formed the Confederate States of America by the time the Electoral College cast its votes. As a result, their electoral votes were not counted in the official tally for Lincoln's election. The Southern states held their own separate presidential election, and John C. Breckinridge was chosen as the candidate for the Southern Democrats. This election marked the beginning of the tumultuous period leading up to the American Civil War.
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"To date, it remains the election that yielded the highest voter turnout of the eligible voting-age population in American history, at 82.6%"
Sound familiar?
Whoa, you mean US history didn't start exactly at the year 2016? Dang!

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You don't think either of those candidates asked anyone to "find some votes"?
According to your source, no they did not.

“there were wide allegations of electoral fraud, election violence, and other disfranchisement of predominantly Republican Black voters”

Apparently, Republicans have been trying to prevent blacks from voting for a very long time.

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Imagine if the elite parties made a similar backroom promise regarding Trump in 2020 if it meant bi-partisan corruption could continue unabated?
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You don't think either of those candidates asked anyone to "find some votes"?
According to your source, no they did not.
Of course they did, you don't end up with multiple sets of dualing electors without somebody discarding the numbers reported to them and using ones they prefer.


“there were wide allegations of electoral fraud, election violence, and other disfranchisement of predominantly Republican Black voters”

Apparently, Republicans have been trying to prevent blacks from voting for a very long time.
First you forgot about the civil war, and now you forgot to mention the myth of the "great switch".

So, if there was disenfranchisement, would that mean that the election was I don't know... fraudulent?

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If you think about it, Lincoln was the only technically illegitimate president in US History as the electoral votes of the Confederate states were thrown out.
That’s bullshit as usual.
The electoral votes of 7 southern states were thrown out after voting in the election because they seceded before the electoral votes were counted by Congress.
Lincoln was completely legitimate. What was illegitimate was the secession attempt. The leaders of the confederacy should have been hung.

“Lincoln's main opponent in the North was Douglas, who won the popular vote in two states, Missouri and New Jersey. Douglas was the only candidate in the 1860 election to win electoral votes in both free and slave states. In the South, Bell won three states and Breckinridge swept the remaining 11. Lincoln's election motivated seven Southern states, all voting for Breckinridge, to secede before the inauguration in March. The American Civil War began less than two months after Lincoln's inauguration, with the Battle of Fort Sumter; afterwards four further states seceded”
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Of course they did, you don't end up with multiple sets of dualing electors without somebody discarding the numbers reported to them and using ones they prefer.
You are trying to make up history. The two candidates in 1876 didn’t do anything near what Trump did.

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So, if there was disenfranchisement, would that mean that the election was I don't know... fraudulent?
The south has been attempting to disenfranchise black voters since reconstruction failed. Does that mean every election since the civil war has been fraudulent?

I don’t think so.

And no election ever involved the candidates, let alone an incumbent President, leading the fraud with a big lie.

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During the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860, the electoral votes of the Confederate states were not counted.
It's almost like the social contract is void once violated. Indeed if Lincoln didn't say something along the lines of "all rules of the constitution may be set aside in times of war" his actions said it for him.

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They weren’t counted because those 7 states had seceded, genius.
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[IwantRooseveltagain] They weren’t counted because those 7 states had seceded, genius.
Can't have your cake and eat it too. If they weren't part of the union then what possible (legal) justification for attack was there?