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Okay, there seems to be some interest in this topic.

Masturbation is basically something I do out of desperation. I dont feel better after masturbating. In fact, I often feel same or worse than before masturbating.

1. Guilt and shame

I actually feel guilty after masturbating. I blame myself that I am addicted to these primitive actions. There is simply no honour in masturbation.

2. Too much but never enough

It seems that I masturbate too much. However, it never feels like enough. It always makes me feel unsatisfied. I probably wasted thousands of hours masturbating. If I used that time to read Karl Marx, maybe I would be better at defending Marxism in debates.

3. Interference with relationships

Masturbation made me unwilling to have sexual relationships, which is good, however it also made me unwilling to have social life. I basically have no interest in being around people.

4. Physical risks

I sometimes feel pain after masturbating too much. Sometimes it even hurts when I pee after I masturbate.
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Just nutted. Saw the title and immediately knew it was you.
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Because you always make your topics as straight and forward as my dick when it sees a sexy woman on a tablet screen. Simple as that.
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i think you should look at the bible. it doesnt say masturbation is wrong, period. jesus does say you shouldn't lust after a woman, but the word he used for lust meant covet, which is similar to the ten commandments. covet just means inordinate desire. if it's excessive it's bad, but otherwise i'd say it's okay. st paul said it's better to get married than burn with passion, but that phrase is too vague to mean masturbation is wrong. people often point to the story of onan who didn't impregnant his brother's widow as God commanded but spilled his seed... this phrase is often said to be about masturbation but really it's about not following God's command. 


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i think we're meant to be in a relationship. masturbation can feel empty at the end, but that's i would think only because it's not the fullness that God intended for us. 

plus, i'm sure some folks have had it rammed so hard that getting off is bad, that they feel guilty after sex.

'feelings' arent the best basis for truth. 
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Masturbation’s benefits range from the psychological to the physical, with evidence suggesting that self-pleasure can help reduce depression, improve the functioning of your immune system, and even reduce the risk of type-2 diabetes.
Meanwhile, there has been a lot of excitement surrounding a possible link between masturbation and prostate cancer, with evidence suggesting that the more you masturbate as a young man, the less likely you are to develop the illness.
Moreover, masturbation provides the easiest way for people to reach orgasm, which is itself something that brings positives to your health. These include lower blood pressure, reduced stress, a decreased chance of illness, and a heightened feeling of health.
By not masturbating, you’re forgoing these potential benefits – without many certain positives in return.
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Look up Ernest Borgnine if you want to live to be 95.
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Women that masturbate find it easier to get pregnant. A study shows that the contractions of the uterus that happen with orgasm help "suck up" the semen that gets deposited in the vagina, near the cervix. The orgasm then helps to move the sperm through the uterus and fallopian tubes.  
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1. Guilt and shame
You are not a dirty person just because you are subject to biology. You are doing exactly as you are programed to. If you believe in a programmer then they have far more reason to feel ashamed than you do.
2. Too much but never enough
When is enough enough? If it is growing into a compulsive behavior then you should talk to a sex therapist. We here on the forums would be woefully inadequate to your needs. If it is not a compulsive behavior and you can change your habits then do so but only if it is truly what you want.
3. Interference with relationships
Is masterbating what is effecting your relationships or is it being introverted and perhaps dealing with other symptoms like depression? If it really is masterbating that is beginning to sound like an unhealthy compulsive behavior (which could of course take any form and it is not masterbating per se that is harmful but any compulsive unavoidable behavior that effects your ability to engage in social situations) but of course I am just some jerk on the internet and in no position to give a real diagnosis. 
4. Physical risks
There is little physical risk involved with normal masterbating. Go slow, use lotion, be good to yourself. 
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evidence suggesting that self-pleasure can help reduce depression
I would say that thats false. I dont see that in my own example. Plus, many people online I met told me that they feel better when not masturbating for a long time.

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You are not a dirty person just because you are subject to biology. You are doing exactly as you are programed to. If you believe in a programmer then they have far more reason to feel ashamed than you do.
That doesnt change the fact that there is no honour in masturbation and it is my fault for not resisting it. Even if you believe in programmer, it just means I am so weak that someone can program me to masturbate. Even more dishonour.

If it is growing into a compulsive behavior then you should talk to a sex therapist.
No. I dont believe in therapists.

Is masterbating what is effecting your relationships or is it being introverted and perhaps dealing with other symptoms like depression?
Masturbating too much actually encourages a person to be introvert.

There is little physical risk involved with normal masterbating. Go slow, use lotion, be good to yourself. 
You cant go slow when you need orgasm as fast as possible.
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i think we're meant to be in a relationship. masturbation can feel empty at the end, but that's i would think only because it's not the fullness that God intended for us.
I noticed that many animals dont masturbate, even when they cant find a partner. Well, monkeys masturbate.

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That doesnt change the fact that there is no honour in masturbation and it is my fault for not resisting it. Even if you believe in programmer, it just means I am so weak that someone can program me to masturbate. Even more dishonour.
I don't think you need to feel ashamed that you "couldn't resist" what amounts to a pretty normal biological function. You may as well be ashamed because you couldn't resist breathing or using the rest room.

As for honor that is highly subjective. I mean what if it was an event in the Olympics? You could garner honor for you and your whole country! Why I bet you could get the gold and the bronze if you know what I mean... could of been silver but stupid Lithuania.
No. I dont believe in therapists.
Let's say you find a therapist and they don't help at all... are you really any worse off? I am not qualified to give medical advice but you may find the right therapist is a big help.
Masturbating too much actually encourages a person to be introvert.
Well maybe that is only because you are ashamed of it. What if you embraced it? Made it a group activity instead. Go online find other weirdos. Maybe have a nice video chat. Maybe it will actually help you make friends. 
You cant go slow when you need orgasm as fast as possible.
Ok I feel like someone should have The Talk with you and I do not feel like the right person but you can just hold your horses. Light some candles, have a nice bath, make an occasion of it. Self abuse doesn't have to literally mean abuse.
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other animals might not be smart enough to masturbate. we are primates anyway so if other primates do it, it seems natural. 

do you not care about what the bible says about masturbation? how do you view the role of the bible on that issue? do you still defer yet think it's probably error filled, or how much have you given up on it as a source of truth? 
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I don't think you need to feel ashamed that you "couldn't resist" what amounts to a pretty normal biological function. You may as well be ashamed because you couldn't resist breathing or using the rest room.
Breathing, not so bad. Using the rest room, well yes there is some shame there. Greater shame is in masturbation. Masturbation being "normal biological function" doesnt negate that there is great shame in masturbation. I am too weak to resist masturbation. Masturbation is dishonour.

As for honor that is highly subjective.
Honour means respect. First, me respecting myself.

I mean what if it was an event in the Olympics?
Wouldnt cause honour.

Let's say you find a therapist and they don't help at all... are you really any worse off? I am not qualified to give medical advice but you may find the right therapist is a big help.
Doesnt change that I dont believe in therapists.

Well maybe that is only because you are ashamed of it. What if you embraced it? Made it a group activity instead. Go online find other weirdos. Maybe have a nice video chat. Maybe it will actually help you make friends.
You cannot embrace shame and then feel no shame. Rather, it would just be adding more to shame.

Ok I feel like someone should have The Talk with you and I do not feel like the right person but you can just hold your horses. Light some candles, have a nice bath, make an occasion of it. Self abuse doesn't have to literally mean abuse
No, after masturbating for a few times a day, there is no occassion other than getting to orgasm as fast as possible.
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other animals might not be smart enough to masturbate.
Lucky for them.

do you not care about what the bible says about masturbation?
Bible does mention that when seed comes out, person becomes unclean. So I am unclean all the time. Well, by The Old Testament at least.
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Breathing, not so bad. Using the rest room, well yes there is some shame there. Greater shame is in masturbation. Masturbation being "normal biological function" doesnt negate that there is great shame in masturbation. I am too weak to resist masturbation. Masturbation is dishonour.
It is silly to even make this distinction. It would be silky to try to resist using the bathroom. What makes it more shameful than breathing which also involves expelling waste by the way. Masterbating is as natural as breathing. 
Honour means respect. First, me respecting myself.
Let's say for the sake of argument that I masturbate whenever the mood takes me. I take my time and it becomes some relaxing me time.  I enjoy it and I don't plan on giving the habit up. It is my private business and I keep it that way as much as I may. Now would you respect me less knowing this?
Doesnt change that I dont believe in therapists.
Mark Twain said that "a man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man that can't". Do you want to beat this thing or not? Don't act all apologetic before you have used the tools research has shown most effective in our collective human toolbox.
You cannot embrace shame and then feel no shame. Rather, it would just be adding more to shame.
Not the shame silly the masterbating. Try seeing it like washing yourself. I was joking about the video chat but just because you don't want to have other people watch you do something doesn't make it bad for you.
No, after masturbating for a few times a day, there is no occassion other than getting to orgasm as fast as possible.
I think some of us might actually be impressed... and perhaps a trifle jealous but depending on how old you are that could sure settle down and you might even miss these times. I still think that unless youbare having an actual compulsion which i am unequiped to identify you might profit by having a nice relaxing one every day regaless of whatever else is going on.
Bible does mention that when seed comes out, person becomes unclean.
Yeah well they also said women should wear hats. A lot of that stuff is hokum. I mean it would all appear to be hokum but a lot of it is for sure hokum.


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It is silly to even make this distinction. It would be silky to try to resist using the bathroom. What makes it more shameful than breathing which also involves expelling waste by the way. Masterbating is as natural as breathing. 
No. Masturbation is greater shame. There is no "what makes it more shameful", as me not knowing the reason doesnt negate that it is greater shame. Masturbation is not same as breathing. The mere fact that I cannot resist it is my fault, which adds to the shame. The fact that it controls me as with a remote control, the fact that it decides my thoughts, adds to the shame of the shameful act.

Let's say for the sake of argument that I masturbate whenever the mood takes me. I take my time and it becomes some relaxing me time.  I enjoy it and I don't plan on giving the habit up. It is my private business and I keep it that way as much as I may. Now would you respect me less knowing this?
Yes.

Mark Twain said that "a man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man that can't". Do you want to beat this thing or not? Don't act all apologetic before you have used the tools research has shown most effective in our collective human toolbox.
Those are not tools, nor I believe in them, nor would I put myself to shame to use them and fail. And yes, I would fail if I used them.
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No. Masturbation is greater shame. There is no "what makes it more shameful", as me not knowing the reason doesnt negate that it is greater shame. Masturbation is not same as breathing. The mere fact that I cannot resist it is my fault, which adds to the shame. The fact that it controls me as with a remote control, the fact that it decides my thoughts, adds to the shame of the shameful act.
There is no honor in being tortured for its own sake. Do get over yourself. You are not an angel or a demon you are just a human being. A perfectly normal primate and primates tend to masterbate. It's convenient because we have such clever grasping paws. Anyone that tells you different is trying to manipulate you.
Me. Let's say for the sake of argument that I masturbate whenever the mood takes me. I take my time and it becomes some relaxing me time. I enjoy it and I don't plan on giving the habit up. It is my private business and I keep it that way as much as I may. Now would you respect me less knowing this?

You. Yes.
then I respect you just a little less and not because either of us masterbates.
Those are not tools, nor I believe in them, nor would I put myself to shame to use them and fail. And yes, I would fail if I used them.
Look I can't force you to make healthy choices but it would provide we with some piece of mind if you did. Anyway good luck with the masturbation. 
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There is no honor in being tortured for its own sake. Do get over yourself. You are not an angel or a demon you are just a human being. A perfectly normal primate and primates tend to masterbate. It's convenient because we have such clever grasping paws. Anyone that tells you different is trying to manipulate you.
Actually, there is honour in being tortured, sometimes. However, I know that I could stop masturbating if I wanted to. That would bring me to my full potential. The fact that I allow myself to be controlled by biology this much means I am nothing and biology is everything.

then I respect you just a little less and not because either of us masterbates
I already dont respect myself. Your lack of respect towards me is less painful than my lack of respect towards me.
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I hope you work on yourself but I think we are done in this thread. I'm sorry it your shame but please don't make anyone else feel ashamed. That really would be shameful. 
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In my view,  I would lose respect for everyone who cant stop masturbating willingly. Thats how I lost respect for myself.
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other animals might not be smart enough to masturbate. we are primates anyway so if other primates do it, it seems natural. 
It doesn't take that much intelligence, it's more like they lack fine manipulation of soft organs that can reach their privates.

Of course with enough intelligence masturbation finds a way, see dolphins.


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Yes, male dolphins have been known to masturbate by wrapping a live eel around their penis.
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Leviticus 15:16–18 states that any male who emits semen is considered ritually impure - whether the emission came through masturbation, nocturnal emission, or sex between married heterosexual partners.

if all emissions were unclean this must be a ceremonial law. not something to do with inherent morality. the old testament as you know is full of a lot of BS. i look to the bible for issues on related to faith and morals, and this emission thing could only loosely be tied to morality. if sex between hetero married was unclean, which we know is moral... this almost surely is just ceremonial and only old testament relic of the past. 
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I actually feel guilty after masturbating. I blame myself that I am addicted to these primitive actions.
It's not primitive, it's biological programming. The need to masturbate is really no different than the need to pee. And if you are male, your body is continually creating semen so if you don't get it out of you, your body will do so on its own (that's why we have wet dreams).

There is simply no honour in masturbation.
This is entirely made up, whether by you or someone who fed this to you. Either way you are in complete control of this notion and any negative effects it has on your psyche.

In a survey done some years ago 98% of all people said they masterbate. The other 2% lied about it. There is nothing wrong with it unless you convince yourself otherwise.

I probably wasted thousands of hours masturbating. If I used that time to read Karl Marx, maybe I would be better at defending Marxism in debates.
If you're masturbating that frequently it might suggest you have a much higher sex drive than most. This is beyond your control so feeling bad about it is misguided. Regardless, spending that time elsewhere would only result in your sexual thoughts consuming you more so than of you let it out.

I basically have no interest in being around people.
That has little of anything to do with masterbation. You sound like you might benefit from therapy.
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It's not primitive, it's biological programming. The need to masturbate is really no different than the need to pee. And if you are male, your body is continually creating semen so if you don't get it out of you, your body will do so on its own (that's why we have wet dreams).
It is less shame to have wet dream. Also, biological programming does not mean that masturbation is not primitive.

This is entirely made up, whether by you or someone who fed this to you. Either way you are in complete control of this notion and any negative effects it has on your psyche.
In a survey done some years ago 98% of all people said they masterbate. The other 2% lied about it. There is nothing wrong with it unless you convince yourself otherwise.
Popularity has nothing to do with if something is shame and dishonor. It is a fact that masturbation brings shame and dishonor. No one will respect you because you behave like a dog. Not even you will respect you. People can choose not to masturbate. Thats why its dishonor.

If you're masturbating that frequently it might suggest you have a much higher sex drive than most. This is beyond your control so feeling bad about it is misguided. Regardless, spending that time elsewhere would only result in your sexual thoughts consuming you more so than of you let it out.
First you say that masturbation is beyond my control, then you say that I would be able to control it but would have difficulties. It is less shame to have difficulties. I can stop masturbating, because I did stop before. The fact that I choose not to is dishonor.

That has little of anything to do with masterbation. You sound like you might benefit from therapy.
I was in therapy before for other things. It helped me realize that therapy doesnt work.
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We live on a planet with an estimated carrying capacity of 2 billion and even with that knowledge, we remain more than 4 times that capacity.  Global Warming presents humanity with a simple choice:  we can spend the planet's viability slow or we can spend it fast but if we are going to have this many people on Earth we wont last long.  All good government encourages masturbation as an alternative to baby-making and sdt's.   If you are anti-abortion you better damn well be pro-masturbation or your false motives lie exposed.  We need to drop pop fast.   We need to lose 3/4ths of the population in this generation if we can.  Masturbation as an alternative to holocaust for depopulation means begins to seems downright virtuous.  The porn is essentially free, voluntary, practically biographical documentary at this point- a golden age for porn in my opinion.   Save the World, lads: beat your meat.