The key to victory in 2024 for the democrats lies in abortion

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That is why I add the fact that the fetus poses a threat to the life of the mother.  This coupled with the fact that the fetus currently has not developed a active brain supports the right to abortion 

Letting the fetus proceed with its natural processes may kill the mother.


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The reason why aborting a fetus is murder, is because:
The only reason an abortion is murder is the word abort describes a murder when it is said about the termination of birth. Birth also being a word to a map of where the immigration of a person takes place into a country.

Here is the big moment to shine YouFound_Lxam, a test, prove female specific amputation is murder? A women and man, a women with anothern women are together stopping a form of immigration which places her life and only her life in danger as a random possiblilaty of the event according to all witness.

When a man aborts another man's life and makes a claim publicly,he has aborted that man's life he is admitting murdering. The legislation of law does not call murder abortion. The connection to established justice isbeing broken in an unconstitutional act of loss of privacy, sending the matter back after ruling to a lower court does not change the known loss of privacy that has been documented by the Supreme Courts, State or Federal. 

Ok you are not understanding.
You are telling a lie and I do not agree with the lie. Iunderstand. I want in writing that abortion is not Pregnancy abortion, and Pregnancy abortion is not in any way, shape, and or form an admission to murder, apossible admission to murder, t cannot be mistakenly, misconstrued, or ever found to be admission or treated as admission to murder in both the past and the future of all humanity. 

I pay for the notary if necessary to have it notarized whilesinged, be it written by you or as requested before from Congress and President/ Presadera.  You know what they say….PUTIT IN WRITING!
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That is why I add the fact that the fetus poses a threat to the life of the mother.  This coupled with the fact that the fetus currently has not developed a active brain supports the right to abortion 
Not good enough and the fact is birth creates a threat to a women’s life. This means all women's life is placed in random danger by birth all women are not placed in danger by the child she is made by law of nature ambassador too, only birth.
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 the fetus currently has not developed a active brain supports the right to abortion 
Is it justified to kill someone in a coma for no reason at all?


Letting the fetus proceed with its natural processes may kill the mother.
You know what percent of women die from pregnancy? 
0.05%.

The women who die from pregnancy and childbearing are also the ones who chose the child's life over their own. 
So, no if left to its natural processes, pregnancy will result in a child, and the process has a 0.05% death risk. 
Thats less of a death risk than most lifesaving surgeries. 



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A person in a coma is not brain dead or is it a threat to anyone.  A fetus is.

So a few women die and all go thru pain and most have to put their career on hold

Man....thank God it's easy on you in the waiting room
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A person in a coma is not brain dead or is it a threat to anyone.  A fetus is.
A person in a coma is unresponsive and has little to no brain activity. 
It is a threat in the way that someone has to continue to pay for that person to stay alive. 

A fetus is responsive and has growing brain activity. 
A fetus only poses a 0.05% threat level to the mother, and the mother was the one who made the decision to get pregnant, so she accepted the risk. It's like a contract. 

So a few women die and all go thru pain and most have to put their career on hold
Most of the death (which is only a couple hundred in the whole world) and the pain the women go through is volunteer based.
Also, are you saying that a woman is not capable of holding a career and taking care of a child? Wow....you have very little faith in women's abilities. 


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Absolutely false.  A person in a coma has much better brain activity as measured in a eeg.  Your claim  is just false.   We are discussing physical threats to life.   Come on...be serious.

A fetus can kill the mother.  That is a fact.  The pain is not volunteer based if abortion is outlawed.  That is forced birth against their will
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A fetus can kill the mother.  That is a fact.

An abortion and a birth are both a termination of a pregnancy The only thing the laws should say is you can't choose to kill a fetus if both can be saved when a mother's life depends on terminating a pregnancy.
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But a woman need not wait until she is in danger of her life to kill the fetus.  She should be able to make that decision anytime prior to the third trimester
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That's like saying you need not wait for a burglar to step off the public sidewalk. If you feel your life is threatened, you can choose to do what you want to at any point.

Every state legally defines a threshold. Or would you rather have a federal law define that threshold?
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I would rather federal.law legalized abortion.

No where in the law currently does it require you to risk your life
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The reason why aborting a fetus is murder, is because:
Abort describes an order given to stop. We do not abort a fever we medically treat the simptoms of the fever.

Why female-specific amputation is not murder it describes to all people, in truth, a known medical procedure called amputation, a medical treatment removal though not limited to only women, but is used in the medical treatment for only women. A described medical treatment with no legal side bar and as fact can be said to have relationship with a process of legal immigration and its KNOWN risks only a women faces. If Congress, the International Court of Justice, or the United States Supreme Court just issue official report detailing abort as being in no way interpreted directly as aadmission by its own description to crime this debate would end immediately. Any lawyer I have ever questioned about questionable contracts or medical treatments has always given me the say advice. GET IT IN WRITING! If they will not put it in writing find someone who will. That group is not openly acknowledging a potential wrong.

Legal malpractice means that the lawyer breached their duty of care to the client and the client was harmed as a result. For example, in some states, a cause of action for legal malpractice requires: “(1) the existence of an attorney-client relationship creating a duty of care by the defendant attorney, (2) the breach of that duty by the defendant, and (3) proximate causation of the damages claimed by the plaintiff.” ( modifide)
The possible breach of duty bythe defendant (1) allowed admission described in medical treatment after courtruling of illegal invasion of privacy. ( 2) the admission associates both menand women equally into a lifetime of prosecution to murder by appropriate legislation of law that illegal violates medical and legal privacy. The privacy of women, men, and of the one person assigned to ambassador of immigration appointed by law of nature as the women and mother.
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An abortion and a birth are both a termination of a pregnancy The only thing the laws should say is you can't choose to kill a fetus if both can be saved when a mother's life depends on terminating a pregnancy.
Birth in this matter is immigration and birth only describethe location of entry into a nation. The act of lethal force applied by a fetusis random. There are only some limits to risk and medical treatment does not ensuresurvival created by the immigration process, for mother, ambassador, child theone person assigned an ambassador, by who as law of nature presumes over child.

The point of equality under lawis made with fetus as a murder weapon, to which the mother may end her ownlife, when insisting the child be given medical care above and beyond her own,or someone may use the fetus to end her life, knowingly. When an accuserignores known danger, then detains by use of litigation criminal or civil theyhave undertaken the criminal act of attempted murder. If the women are to diebecause of immigration. We are assigned the grueling task of establishing themore perfect union to Preamble requirements of United States Constitution. Ifas a human, you are to practice a type of governing in which the law is tooused to govern law move to Israel and become a citizen there. It is the onlynation which does not introduce United State Constitutional right as petition ofgrievance to inappropriate legislated laws. (no offence meant it is a truth,right or wrong time shall be able to tell.)
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I would rather federal.law legalized abortion.
Kind of the point made by constitutional violation ofprivacy the word abort is describing the immigration as a type of murder andthus the requirements of a court trial is needed to declare innocence or thepotential crime of admission unlike a religious confession lingers foreverbefore the courts of law. This does not sound like the best connection that canbe made to established justice to me. Does it sound like a perfect connectionto established justice to you in truth?
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No where in the law currently does it require you to risk your life
We have a lot of states with a "duty to retreat" (I think 15 states) meaning you are legally required to try to resolve the situation without harming either party even if it means you may get shot in the back.

The victim is compelled to take a reasonably low amount of risk to his life by fleeing, which shouldn't have to fall on the victims shoulders. 
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Great.  If there us a retreat process for pregnancy let me know


Until then we have abortions 
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Great.  If there us a retreat process for pregnancy let me know

It's called birth.
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Which can kill the mother.

Uh......no
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Which can kill the mother.
Every birth can kill the mother. At any stage.
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Exactly.   Which is why a woman should be able to get a abortion.....or else you are forcing a woman to risk her life
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Yep, at every stage, for any reason; because there will always be some level of risk to the mother, no matter how small.

This is the Castle doctrine.
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Are you saying in stand your ground states she should be able to get an abortion....because that is pretty much what we have now
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I'm just showing how states differ on how much risk you are expected to bear.
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Exactly.   Which is why a woman should be able to get a abortion.....or else you are forcing a woman to risk her life

Women are allowed to admit to murder in a police station they are just less likely to be understood clearly when they describe the murder as aborting a human life. It makes no sense to allow law or medical treatment accuse of women or man of a crime. A woman is not forced to have an abortion she is choosing to perform an imperfect state of the Union with AmericanConstitutional Preamble. It is clear a more perfect connection to United States Constitutional Right begins with a word that cannot be mistaken by the public for an admissionof murder.

 If abortionwas so great, why does no one place how perfect the connection was to Preamble qualifications of constitutional right?
The actionsof the Supreme court and oval executive office might make sense if state and federal supreme courts had not located a violation of legal privacy already.
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I'm just showing how states differ on how much risk you are expected to bear.
How many States provide a Social Security Number or State IdentificationNumber to a person pre-birth?
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Vegasgiants has contended that there is no heart at 6 weeks gestation. His ONLY sources are a failed politician and an expert opinion from a biased source.

I have provided over a dozen scientific medical research papers that have been peer reviewed and published.

In an epistemological hierarchy, the dozen scientific medical research papers that have been peer reviewed and published outweighs the opinion.

I have challenged Vegasgiants to a debate, which Vegasgiants declined on August 2, 2023.

Therefore my points are proven that there is a heart and  Democrats accept lies about abortion.


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Uh....nope.  You conceded after you started the insults 

I accepted your concession 
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Uh....nope.  You conceded after you started the insults 
As I have asked you before....submit a list of insults that you perceive to have existed.

The absence of such list proves that the insults do not exist.

I accepted your concession 
There was no concession on my part to be offered.

YOU declined to debate....thereby YOU forfeited.....my case was proven.

Therefore my points are proven that there is a heart and  Democrats accept lies about abortion.





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Better luck here time 
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Better luck here time 
I can have no better luck than the victory that comes with skill.

Why do you believe things that you cannot defend?