So why dont you seek to punish Bush?
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@Best.Korea
So why dont you seek to punish Bush?
which part of "I have no problem with him being charged." was unclear? I would like bush to be tried for his crimes. But his crimes were like 15 years ago and he has no intention to be in a position of power again and therefore cannot commit more crimes. Trump very much does intend to regain his position of power so that he can continue his crimes. That makes it a little more pressing for trump to be punished to prevent him from committing more crimes.
You say you would like to do it, but none of you Americans are doing anything to make it happen. So you are either lying either mentally disabled.
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@Best.Korea
Blue team members want Trump arrested but not proven criminals Biden and Clinton
Red team members want Biden Clinton arrested but not red team members like Trump or McCain
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@FLRW
IwRa is giving an opinion for somebody to debate. he is saying, do you think Trump is a crook?
No he is not, and that is not what he said.
🤦♂️
Regurgitating what someone else said with absolutely zero context on his part = parroting, it’s nothing to debate, other than which type of cracker he wants.
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@Best.Korea
You say you would like to do it, but none of you Americans are doing anything to make it happen. So you are either lying either mentally disabled.
I get that you aren't american. But deciding whether to indict a former president for war crimes isn't something the average american has a say in. And considering all the other problems going on, going after a retiree who isn't going to hurt anyone any more is a low priority. Going after criminals who would very much like to hurt more people is a higher priority.
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@ponikshiy
Blue team members want Trump arrested but not proven criminals Biden and Clinton
tell me a single crime biden has been proven to have committed.
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@ponikshiy
A 1954 Poli Sci textbook essentially outlined a few steps to overturn a democracy.
1) Divide the nation philosophically.
2) Foment racial strife.
3) Cause distrust of police authority.
4) Swarm the nation's borders indiscriminately and unconstitutionally.
5) Engender the military strength to weaken it.
6) Overburden citizens with more unfair taxation.
7) Encourage civil rioting and discourage accountability for all crime.
8) Control all balloting.
9) Control all media.
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@HistoryBuff
That's for the SCOTUS to determine, not a licensure board. Banana republic justice.
That’s bullshit. You are such a moron who demonstrates uninformed opinions on everything you comment on. You are a dummy
Ya, Banana Republics are known for having really strong and independent state bar associations.
“A state bar association is a bar association that represents or seeks to represent the attorneys practicing law in a particular U.S. state. Their functions differ from state to state, but often include administration of the state bar examination for admission of attorneys to practice law, regulation of continuing legal education and other requirements, collection and monitoring of attorney client trust accounts, collection of fees and discipline of attorneys for ethical or other violations”
making him the first elite insurrectionist to pay a serious professional price for the coup attempt“
Hardly the first.
- Steve Bannon, Enrique Tarrio, Steward Rhodes in jail
- Alex Jones is broke and owes $1billion
- Rudy Giuliani is barred from practicing law in NY and DC, at least 3 criminal investigations underway
- Jim and Ron Watkins forced to leave the Phillipines
And considering all the other problems going on, going after a retiree who isn't going to hurt anyone any more is a low priority.
If a person is retiree, he shouldnt answer for crime of killing million people. Justice is not important.
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@HistoryBuff
But his crimes were like 15 years ago and he has no intention to be in a position of power again and therefore cannot commit more crimes.
See, the left admits justice is only relevant in relation to power. That is how we know the left is weaponizing the law to gain power and eliminate threats to power.
And now the Right has learned from the Left with a slew of impeachment charges set to roll through Congress.
Banana Republic.
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@Greyparrot
ok, so you've shown me a rules violation that has no prison time for it. One that I'm quite confident you could find for most high ranking politicians. These rules have no teeth and little enforcement so all politicians break them freely. And all i see here is that the biden campaign did this. I don't see any indication that biden personally was involved. So you can't say that Biden broke the law.
Is this supposed to be something that is in any way comparable to what trump has done?
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@Greyparrot
See, the left admits justice is only relevant in relation to power. That is how we know the left is weaponizing the law to gain power and eliminate threats to power.
no, it is in relation to the desire to commit more crimes. Trump wants to go back to the oval office and commit lots more crimes. Therefore punishing him for the crimes he engaged in recently is more important.
Which is more important, someone who committed an assault 50 years ago and the offender is now in a nursing home unable to walk, or someone who committed an assault last year and is planning to do it again? One carries a significant risk to the public, the other does not.
And now the Right has learned from the Left with a slew of impeachment charges set to roll through Congress.
and the whole country laughs at them since they can't point to a single crime he has committed. They are just a joke.
Banana Republic.
the right is certainly trying to make it so. Having your leader be a known criminal and trying to fight to make him unaccountable for his crimes is exactly what banana republics do.
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@HistoryBuff
There's so much extortion going on with the legal system, it's hard to tell who the real bad guys are.
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@Greyparrot
There's so much extortion going on with the legal system, it's hard to tell who the real bad guys are.
that's true. But the guy stealing classified documents including nuclear secrets and showing them to people in his club. Then lying about it and hiding the documents. that's probably a bad guy. definitely a criminal.
nuclear secrets ...
I can't believe that allegation still has traction in educated circles.
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@Greyparrot
I can't believe that allegation still has traction in educated circles.
you mean the allegation he is currently being indicted for? The fact that he stole nuclear documents is in the documents case indictment.
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@HistoryBuff
some "secret" lol
I like how you did not use the word "codes" though. Shows you still are cogent.
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@Greyparrot
some "secret" lolI like how you did not use the word "codes" though. Shows you still are cogent.
I honestly don't know what you are talking about. But Trump stole nuclear documents after losing the election. I don't see any possible innocent explanation for why you would would want or need secret nuclear documents nor why you would lie about it and hide them when the government asked for them back, repeatedly. Taking them was a crime, hiding them was another, bigger crime. And what he did/planned to do with them likely was another significant crime. But we may or may not find out what that was.
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@HistoryBuff
Most of the documents the FBI took were photographed and leaked to the press. You aren't likely to see those photos in any court case because the FBI did that. Either the FBI is incompetent, or they are engaging in malfeasance by influencing an election. Similarly with the recent leaked audio tapes, that won't ever see the inside of a courtroom because it's tainted prejudicial evidence. Either the FBI is incompetent, or they are engaging in malfeasance by influencing an election.
Biden has no discernable incentive to fix the FBI because it's likely the FBI is extorting Biden with a ton of evidence (besides the laptop) about his publicly admitted corruption in Ukraine. Imagine your own intelligence agencies compromising the president you voted for. Since I can't get enough of this classic clip, I will repost this to remind you.
The system is so broken, nobody knows where to start, but it sure as hell won't be magically fixed after Trump is gone.
There's so much extortion going on with the legal system, it's hard to tell who the real bad guys are.
I wonder how many top secret document pictures Melania has on her iPhone?
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@FLRW
Just call your FBI buddies. Or MSNBC if your buddies already leaked them.
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@Greyparrot
Everybody knows that you are really Don Jr.
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@Greyparrot
Most of the documents the FBI took were photographed and leaked to the press.
do you mean the images of the classified documents sitting on a stage or in a bathroom? Those weren't leaked. They are part of the indictment.
You aren't likely to see those photos in any court case because the FBI did that.
Unless you are referring to some other photos, this is untrue.
. Similarly with the recent leaked audio tapes, that won't ever see the inside of a courtroom because it's tainted prejudicial evidence.
The FBI already included the transcripts of those calls in the indictment. They didn't need to leak audio. And the tapes leaked within days of them being handed over to trump. Most likely trump or one of his people leaked them. So also, not true. They will definitely be used in court.
Biden has no discernable incentive to fix the FBI because it's likely the FBI is extorting Biden with a ton of evidence (besides the laptop) about his publicly admitted corruption in Ukraine.
this whole sentence is just make believe. There is no evidence of corruption in Ukraine that i have seen. It is all just rumor and inuendo.
The system is so broken, nobody knows where to start, but it sure as hell won't be magically fixed after Trump is gone.
I agree with you. But trump is undoubtedly guilty of multiple crimes. Him not being punished for his crimes doesn't make anything any better. It makes it worse.
There's so much extortion going on with the legal system, it's hard to tell who the real bad guys are.
there's lots of bad guys in positions of power, that is true. And trump is very obviously one of them.
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@FLRW
Everybody knows that you are really Don Jr.
Is that what your FBI buddies said? *"shudder."*
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@HistoryBuff
You realize that Trump can easily go to jail for contempt if he released those FBI photos/docs/tapes to the media.
Do you have any evidence it was Trump and not FBI leakers from the SCIF that ruined case evidence? You do know Trump has no access to the SCIF, right?
Leakers that the Federal Judge repeatedly condemned and warned?
Admittedly, there's motive on both sides to sabotage the investigation as both have something to gain, but the FBI clearly has more access and cover to do it than dumbass Trump.
I can't believe that allegation still has traction in educated circles.
Why? You have some inside information that disputes the allegations by the Justice Department?
I like how you did not use the word "codes" though. Shows you still are cogent.
You are not cogent. Trump has NOT been accused of stealing nuclear “codes”.
Most of the documents the FBI took were photographed and leaked to the press.
Yet another lie.
Either the FBI is incompetent, or they are engaging in malfeasance by influencing an election.
That is complete nonsense, even if you say it twice.
Biden has no discernable incentive to fix the FBI because it's likely the FBI is extorting Biden with a ton of evidence (besides the laptop) about his publicly admitted corruption in Ukraine. Imagine your own intelligence agencies compromising the president you voted for. Since I can't get enough of this classic clip, I will repost this to remind you.
More bullshit with a source that does not support your statement in any way.