If we say that:
"women walking around half-naked = increase in rape"
Then should women dress properly in order to reduce rape?
Or is "not being raped" less important than "walking around half-naked"?
Should women dress properly?
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@Best.Korea
Children of either gender should probably dress properly. I find it worrying how many minors are posting themselves half naked on social media, when they're way too young to understand the long-term consequences of that decision. When it comes to adults though, a woman who dresses immodestly knows that it may increase the chances of rape (though I'm not sure it actually does) and is willing to accept that risk. That's not to say the victim is responsible for rape, it's simply acknowledging that some factors may increase the chances of being assaulted. I say "may," because I'm not sure the data is actually there to show it makes a difference.
"Should women dress properly?" Only if they want that 1% man to marry them. Otherwise dress like a whore if you want, most men are invisible to women anyway. 100% of women only want 10% of men.
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@Savant
Women walking around half-naked can cause sexual arousal in young boys, plus they can inspire young girls to dress in same way.
I would say its not good for boys under 14 to be exposed to half-naked women.
Its not like the boys control themselves better when provoked than when not provoked.
The data itself is a bit clouded, since countries dont have equal "rape reports per rape cases". We dont know if comparing rape reports of countries is good, since in some countries women are less likely to report a rape and that messes up a statistic.
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@Best.Korea
There's a difference between immodesty and indecent exposure.
Its not like the boys control themselves
Actually, you can just not rape someone. It's not difficult.
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@Savant
There's a difference between immodesty and indecent exposure.
Yes. Both are provoking, just not equally provoking.
Actually, you can just not rape someone. It's not difficult.
I am not talking about what boys can do but about what boys will do, and if it is related to women walking around half-naked.
Some say the girl is half naked
Others say.
She is only half fully cloathed
No , no they dont.
The big question here is .
Are these Hot looking women in short skirts keeping muslims away ?
Lets get the good old scales out .
Heaps of women in short skirts or Muslims
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@sadolite
100% of women only want 10% of men.
Sadly for them, that ratio wouldnt work because leaving 90% of men virgin is a very bad idea.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Are these Hot looking women in short skirts keeping muslims away ?
I would say no, because muslims who live in countries where you cant even see woman's face until you are like 20, they were very happy to move to Sweden. Of course, it didnt turn out well for Sweden.
This is a big fucking conundrum we have ourselves hear.
These women in short skirts
Size 12 and bellow.
Or
Size 12 and above.
I recon we may need to run some tests.
Who decides what is proper?
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@Best.Korea
If we say that: "women walking around half-naked = increase in rape"
- Then you would be contradicting every study of the relationship between women's dress and rape.
- Science has overwhelmingly dismissed this myth as without merit.
Here are a few examples:
- A study published in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence in 2009 found that there was no significant relationship between the sexual attractiveness of a woman's clothing and the likelihood of rape. The study concluded that rape is primarily driven by the perpetrator's motivation to exert power and control over their victim, rather than the victim's appearance or behavior.
- Another study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior in 2017 found that there was no significant relationship between women's clothing and sexual assault. The study surveyed college students and found that the likelihood of sexual assault was influenced by factors such as alcohol use, prior victimization, and social norms regarding sexual behavior, but not by women's clothing.
- A third study published in the Journal of Sex Research in 2016 examined the relationship between women's clothing and sexual objectification. The study found that women who wore revealing clothing were not more likely to be objectified than women who dressed more modestly. The study also found that sexual objectification was associated with negative outcomes such as body shame and decreased self-esteem.
Compare rape statistics from nude and topless beaches in the West to rape statistics in countries where women wear full hijab and we find that an entirely invisible woman is far more at risk than even a naked woman.
In recent years, there has been a growing recognition within the criminal justice system and society at large that victim-blaming attitudes that suggest a woman's clothing or behavior is responsible for their assault are harmful and unjustified. These attitudes contribute to a culture of sexual violence and undermine the rights of survivors.
There is no relationship between women's clothing choices and rape.
Yes, and what counts as "properly" should be defined by those women minding their own business. For a female chef, wearing an apron is proper dressing. For a female bomber pilot, military uniform with special equipment is proper dressing.
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@oromagi
Here are a few examples:
- A study published in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence in 2009 found that there was no significant relationship between the sexual attractiveness of a woman's clothing and the likelihood of rape. The study concluded that rape is primarily driven by the perpetrator's motivation to exert power and control over their victim, rather than the victim's appearance or behavior.
- Another study published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior in 2017 found that there was no significant relationship between women's clothing and sexual assault. The study surveyed college students and found that the likelihood of sexual assault was influenced by factors such as alcohol use, prior victimization, and social norms regarding sexual behavior, but not by women's clothing.
- A third study published in the Journal of Sex Research in 2016 examined the relationship between women's clothing and sexual objectification. The study found that women who wore revealing clothing were not more likely to be objectified than women who dressed more modestly. The study also found that sexual objectification was associated with negative outcomes such as body shame and decreased self-esteem.
Can you link me to those studies? I just so happens to be writing an essay for a school assignment related to this topic.
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@Intelligence_06
Sure thing, Intel-
- Abbey, A., Parkhill, M. R., & Koss, M. P. (2009). The effects of frame of reference on responses to questions about sexual assault victimization and perpetration. Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 24(10), 1702-1722. https://doi.org/10.1177/0886260509336964
- Franklin, C. A., Bouffard, L. A., & Pratt, T. C. (2017). The myth of the provocative victim: The impact of attire on perceptions of victims and assailants in sexual assault cases. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 46(7), 1957-1968. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-017-0969-7
- Kozee, H. B., Tylka, T. L., Augustus-Horvath, C. L., & Denchik, A. (2016). Development and psychometric evaluation of the Interpersonal Sexual Objectification Scale. Journal of Sex Research, 53(6), 727-747. https://doi.org/10.1080/00224499.2015.1129391
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@oromagi
Yeah, thanks.
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@oromagi
Compare rape statistics from nude and topless beaches in the West to rape statistics in countries where women wear full hijab and we find that an entirely invisible woman is far more at risk than even a naked woman.
USA and Sweden have very high rates of reported rape, so I am not really sure where you got those statistics about West having less rape.
However, the statistics on rape are misleading in general.
There is:
1) Actual amount of rape
2) Actual amount of reported rape
3) Actual amount of unreported rape
4) Actual amount of false claims that were reported as rape.
3) and 4) is what messes up 2), which makes 1) unknown.
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@Best.Korea
So, you aren't a big fan of Stormy?
Hey has anyone else here ever asked a girl if they would like to play The Rape game ? ......
And like
When they answer with - 'No.
You quickly reply with . 'Hmmmmm , so your a sporting type . Nice.'
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Fun joke. Might not wanna use it on first date tho.
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@Best.Korea
Firstly, one is either naked or not.
Secondly, the primary role of clothing is to protect from environmental effects, notably cold and solar radiation.
Thirdly, pious sexually repressed misogynists like to totally dominate women, and I think that there is a big move away from that sort of oppressive ideology in moderate "western" societies.
Therefore, perhaps it is incumbent on men in "western" societies to learn to control their hormonal surges, rather than to dictate how women should dress.
Though I would agree, that despite what women and liberal ideologists might say, women of a certain age do dress to attract a mate.
There's no escaping the underlying drives of sexual necessity.
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@Best.Korea
Pleaee keep in mind the advancements made into chasterty belt technology
They are impenetrable. Seriously.
Soooooo
Should women have to wear them to stop rape? . Obviously NO.
Would this stop rape ? . Obviously yes . Of a specific type of rape .
As there are Different types.
Perhaps we should run a practical test.
Here we have a real life quick and efficient professional rapest ' Billy Boy'. .
Say hi Bill.
Why howdy .
Billy boys stats are an impressive .. 21 rapes.... 0 conviction recorded......
He has 5 minutes with each
A half naked girl with Impenetrable panties 3000R series.
He lunges at the half naked girl , he grabs staight for the thing covering what he wants .
He is suddenly taken back by the strength and unremovability of the impenetrable panties 3000R
He goes at this for a further 2 minutes like a man possessed.
yanking, tugging , pulling .
Another minute passes.
Furious with anger .Billy quits stopppp
3.45 into his attack knownig full well that he isn't getting in there .
Then in a old add voice...
Your not getting off today billy boy old pal .
Be safe half naked drunk girl you will sleep well tonight.
We ask The half naked girl what it was like .
She hiccups and burps and is drunk as hell , we tell her that Billy tryed raping her .
She replys in fluent hiccups , oh is he my uber driver, then starts walking towards him.
Ok its
A Modest girl in cotton panties and jeans time .
Billy bob again lunges. Thats so billy .
He grabs the prize Anddddd rip up and rip
down rip rip rip ,
And one more rip down
And his in.
Stoppppp
Raped in under 26 seconds.
Ffffffffff
Who thiks Modestly dress girl deserved what she got .?
I mean.
Not wearing bullet proof panties and opting for thin cotton ones.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Would this stop rape ? . Obviously yes . Of a specific type of rape
It could stop rape, but not assault, so I am not sure if there would be any real benefit of it.
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@zedvictor4
perhaps it is incumbent on men in "western" societies to learn to control their hormonal surges, rather than to dictate how women should dress
How do we teach men to control their urges?
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@Best.Korea
Discourage non-consent culture,
Encourage consent culture.
Two examples,
Don't encourage so much media where individuals force themselves on other people.
Encourage certain concepts in society, such as no means no.
Think about the marketing campaign for
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The Unrapeable
I P 3000R Grab a pair today , But ONLY if you never want to be raped everrrrrrr again.
Thats only.
You could offer a prize for the first person to get into them.
' A add ' . So ladies. Do you just want spend the night out with freinds but wish to avoid beind a goalkeeper for your arse and vag. ( thats funny there )
Being a goalkeeper for hehehe
So funny
Shall i continue?
Ok
Some more addz
IP3000R. Cover two main rapeists entrances points in one go IP3000R
No but seriously.
With our tech right.
We should " be able " to have ummmm ,
reusable , lockable washabull what everabull , underwear .
.
WHAT IF FOR SIMILAR PRICES, " lockable " truly rape proof underwear for women could be made .
With promises like. You'll never be RAPED again.
Would they sell. ?
Well , The answer to this aint important.
Buttttttttttttttttt
Now get this.
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The next time a female is raped , KNOWING. it could have alllllll been avoided with one pair of underwears
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Oh
Them
fucking
implications hey ?
Toot Toot all aboard.
Ps
Imagine if A girl can eliminate rape occurring to them for LESS THEN THE PRICE OF 2 cups of COFFEES.
Just imagine7
What would you even call a women that enters a public domain with absolutely no rapeproof pants on.
None?
Hey Man... We should make these available to and for women . And we will do it in a , " we want you to be safe way "
Thus
Men win .
And its a big win.
The females will come at us with one thing only.
But but. They are uncomfortable.
Out come the scales
( comfort ) on this side . ( Being Raped ) on that side
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@Best.Korea
You like that Best.
Offer rape proof pants for $8
Or to make it worse for women .Hand em out for free.
Free rape proof underwear. Get your free rape proof underwear.
Thank you
Thanks Best
' hold hand up for hi 5 '
Best old buddy old pal
Let us now lay in wait for that first women to be raped not wearing the free rapeproof underwears we gave them.
It keeps on giving.
10 years after the rapeproof underwear coming out,
stats will indicate that,
When it comes to being raped.. Women ain't to fussed about it.
( Six of one . Half a dozen of the other.)
Right?
Fucking ouch
I didn't even want to type that.
Ok ok
I'LL stop it now
( Im Banning myself for 1 hour )
Going for bread and milk . Should i wear my rapeproof pants ummmm.
But here is what it has achieved for women
females go .
Heads. = i wear my rapeproof undies.
Tails. = i don't wear my rapeproof undies.
The coin lands on heads .
Tails .,it is
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss .
I mean . No darn it .
Yessssss
Sad face pout
( ' in a babies like voice )
but.
But I dont want to have to do this
Instantly aroused.
' spits on two fingers
Its such a risk im running wearing no knickers .
I sooooo hope no one willl find out.
And so on and so .
So Ladies ..
you are welcome.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Would this stop rape ? . Obviously yes . Of a specific type of rape .As there are Different types.Perhaps we should run a practical test.Here we have a real life quick and efficient professional rapest ' Billy Boy'. .Say hi Bill.Why howdy .Billy boys stats are an impressive .. 21 rapes.... 0 conviction recorded......
Oromagi has provided studies on this thread that shows otherwise there is no convincing statistical evidence for an increase in rape occurrances.
What is proper?
Can we address the male/female dynamic that prevents us from looking at another person purely for pleasuring ourselves?