The transgenderism debate

I am claiming that the transgender movement is a civil rights movement properly called the transgender civil rights movement ...

 and its not an ideology.  It is what it is.

It's also not a political thing,

It's a fad.

Can you read your own writing for goodness’ sake? You yourself just expressed the phrase “transgender movement” right after accusing me of falsely ascribing the phrase to you…

Regarding African American or Black ideology, I supply you this:

• https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/african-american-ideas
  

Which, of course, I expect you to reject outright at this point in our unproductive convo…

• Transitioning is the medical prescription for acute gender dysphoria.  Americans have no more right to question the utility of that doctor's recommendation than we do questioning the utility of offering chemotherapy to a 90 year old (sic) or the utility of educating the autistic.
  

• My argument, backed by all the major dictionaries, is that term "Transgender ideology" is a (sic) only  right-wing slur (sic) 
  

So, I would like to challenge anyone or multiple people to argue in defense of this ideology. 

Explain to my how it works,  

and why it would benefit society.

the perspective of transgenderism goes against science and biology, and I will stick to the side of biology. 

• Although the specific dynamics are not well understood, biological differences between cis and trans people have been documented. Few American biologists would agree with the statement the the human categories of men and women are fundamental differences with sharp boundries.  Almost all scientists agree that there exist biological "shades of gray" between men and women that sometimes manifest as trangenderism or other nonbinary nonconformities.
  
• If you are, as you say, sticking with the biology, then your plan to eradicate transgenderism  should be entirely off the table.

Let's return focus to OP:

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@Deb-8-a-bull

Deb you're the only man with any sense on this site. 

You're both just obnoxious and contribute nothing constructive in fostering positive dialogue with the goal of actually learning anything. 

You're a detestable clod. I see you've got a new crush btw. Had a good chuckle at your getting jealous of her and Roose. Wouldn't be so sure it's a her though, which is the absolute comedy in it all. She's got a history with this site. Has been exposed before. 

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I call might refer to a man dressing like a girl as a crossdresser, or more likely not call them anything in particular.  That doesn't benefit society, and its not an ideology.  It is what it is.

WIKTIONARY:

Noun[edit]

woman (plural women)

1. An adult female human.
   
2. (collective) All female humans collectively; womankind. 
   
3. A female person, usually an adult; a (generally adult) female sentient being, whether human, supernatural, elf, alien, etc. 
   
4. A wife (or sometimes a fiancée or girlfriend). 
   
5. A female person who is extremely fond of or devoted to a specified type of thing. (Used as the last element of a compound.) 
   
6. A female attendant or servant. 
   

• Transitioning is the medical prescription for acute gender dysphoria.  Americans have no more right to question the utility of that doctor's recommendation than we do questioning the utility of offering chemotherapy to a 90 year old or the utility of educating the autistic. 
  

• My argument, backed by all the major dictionaries, is that term "Transgender ideology" is a only  right-wing slur and "Transgenderism" is just the state of being transgendered.   After asking six or seven times, nobody has given me a cogent example of a transgender ideology publicly expressed by advocates.  YFL begins this conversation with a call to eradicate an ideology but under examination, the only objection seems to be trans people referring to themselves using terms he does not approve of- that is, YFL believes that the First Ammendent is reserved for approved speech only and (at least under some conditions) unapproved speech may be lawfully "eradicated." 
  

• Sex and gender being distinctly different and separate phenomena
  
• Gender being an identity- Identity being determinate of reality
  
• Existence being something that can be experienced independent of material reality or essence
  

• Let's agree that if you knew for a fact that there is such a thing as Transgenderism, you wouldn't need someone else to explain it to you.
  
• The ideology is called Feminism and most modern Feminists make this claim:
  
• non-binary and gender-nonconforming people are valid in their stated identities.
  

• Re-enforces the Constitutional right to free expresssion
  

• Permits all citizens to contribute to society equally unemcumbered by the irrational fears and prejudices of others
  

Although the specific dynamics are not well understood, biological differences between cis and trans people have been documented. Few American biologists would agree with the statement the the human categories of men and women are fundamental differences with sharp boundries.

"At the time, this was not a universally popular idea. The neuroscience community had largely considered any observed sex-associated differences in cognition and behavior in humans to be due to the effects of cultural influences. Animal researchers, for their part, seldom even bothered to use female rodents in their experiments, figuring that the cyclical variations in their reproductive hormones would introduce confounding variability into the search for fundamental neurological insights.
Nirao Shah studies how some genes at work in the mouse brain determine sex-specific behaviors, like the female trait of protecting the nest from intruders. He says most of these genes have human analogues, but their function is not fully understood.". 

But over the past 15 years or so, there’s been a sea change as new technologies have generated a growing pile of evidence that there are inherent differences in how men’s and women’s brains are wired and how they work."

 Almost all scientists agree that there exist biological "shades of gray" between men and women that sometimes manifest as trangenderism or other nonbinary nonconformities.

• If you are, as you say, sticking with the biology, then your plan to eradicate transgenderism  should be entirely off the table.
  

Also, I don't agree with modern feminism either, because its whole goal is to demean men, take away masculinity from society, and not help women. 

But that is a topic for another time. 

Also, if you could explain the Transgender Ideology to me, that would make it easier for me to dispute based on your claim, but if decide not to then I can agree to in the absence of an explanation. 

• Re-enforces the Constitutional right to free expresssion
  

Transgenderism doesn't re-enforce this right. It uses this right. 

If Transgenderism were to re-enforce this right, that would have to mean that this right was (before) being taken away or threatened. 

 (Transgenderism) has become the complete opposite in more free expression of ideas and ideology's

The very fact that Transgenderism is now a widespread phenomenon and have become a cultural upward in the west...

Transgenderism doesn't re-enforce this right; it uses it at full capacity to gain an advantage in the culture war. 

So, I think that it is safe to conclude that Transgenderism doesn't exactly benefit society in this way. 

I actually think that a lot of American and other countries biologists would agree that men and woman are very different. 

Now I will agree that most biologists today who get the media's attention don't claim this.

 Almost all scientists agree that there exist biological "shades of gray" between men and women that sometimes manifest as trangenderism or other nonbinary nonconformities.

Yes. All scientists who are being pushed by the mainstream media. 

• If you are, as you say, sticking with the biology, then your plan to eradicate transgenderism  should be entirely off the table.
  

I think not. 

We can also say with confidence that the mental illness, Gender Dysphoria exists, and that transgender individuals share the same symptoms of this mental illness.