Ok, then this means your actually DO NOT believe in Divine Command, now we're finally making headway. You believe that god cannot be morally wrong, not that whatever he says is morally right, like killing a random baby. Of course, this makes him subject to and not author of morality. You can try to play these word games all you like, but that's what you're saying.
It's really simple what I am saying, you just don't understand.
God is the author of morality, and he subjects himself to morality as well. He is a perfect God.
God cannot be morally wrong.
Whatever he does is morally right. That includes what he says.
But what you guys love to do, is take scripture saying that God did something that sound immoral, but then fail to look at the context of the scripture.
The other way to read your post is that if god DID command you to do something immoral, the real god, then somehow it would cost him the office of god (???).
Thats not what I am saying.
I am saying that since God wouldn't command you to do something immoral, if you got a command to do something immoral, then it wouldn't be from God.
What I am basically saying is that there is no world where God would tell you to do something immoral. There isn't.
So, when you ask me:
If God tells you to do something immoral, would you do it?
The question is immediately defeated when you suggest that God can tell you to do something immoral. He can't. Therefore, there is no answer to that question, because the question in of itself is illogical.
I know you're trying to have it both ways, where he could do it and he can't do it all at the same time. I'll simplify, it seems you're struggling with the idea, which is unsurprising because many Christians do. Neither answer is right or wrong, by the way.
God can do anything. He has the ability to do anything. But he chooses not to. He is not subject to sin. I don't think you fully understand.
Sin is what is immoral.
God by definition has no sin in him and cannot be with sin.
Therefore, God, by definition cannot tell you to do anything immoral. He cannot choose to do something immoral, because he doesn't have that urge to do so.
Now he can choose to sin, but why would he want to?
He has all the knowledge of the Universe. He is omnipotent and has no sin.
Question:
Do you believe in a subjective morality.
That means, that morally bad things, are not good, and morally good things are good.
If your answer is no, then................well you believe that bad things can be good, and that there is no such thing as bad or good.
If your answer is yes, then you will understand why God won't sin. He is the most intelligent being. Why would the most intelligent being make a choice that is not good?
God CAN issue a command Liam thinks is immoral, but Liam knows that's not god, because the command is immoral. Some other entity would be masquerading as god. Ergo, Liam's god cannot issue an immoral command to him.
Yes. Sort of. You get the basic premise.
This is a limitation on an all powerful being. I just realized you've done it more than once in here. You say he "WOULDN'T" do things, because if he did them he wouldn't be god. Numerous times. I've even asked repeatedly how you know he wouldn't, you never answer in any way that doesn't translate to "I don't believe in divine command theory."
Yes, God wouldn't do certain things, just as I have explained above.
Now as for your question as to how I know he won't. Part of that is the fact that he is the most intelligent being in the universe and he won't sin, because to sin is not a smart decision. So, if God cannot sin, and tells us that he won't sin, by saying that he is not lying, therefore I believe he won't sin, because he can't lie.
This is not what you've repeatedly said in this thread though, in response to my thought experiment: anything I came up with that wasn't from the bible, according to you, had a less than 0.000000001% chance of happening, so it was pointless to engage with.
No, what I'm saying is that if you are going to try and make a case of God sinning or being wicked, then you should use examples that we have recorded, and not just ones you made up, that might not be true.
If he can do things that aren't featured in the bible (except for issue immoral commands or intervene in the choices of humans, I guess?), then you can try to honestly engage with the thought experiment. Moot point now as you have confirmed you do not believe in divine command, and that god is subject to something outside of himself: morality. Which necessarily leads to the conclusion that he's not all powerful, and he's not the single source of moral perfection. It's not a trick, it's logic.
The question you posed is illogical.
