WeaverofFate's Debate Tournament in Action!

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The tournament has begun! To start, let's take a look at our challengers for this tournament!

Sir.Lancelot
PREZ-HILTON
AustinL0926
YouFound_Lxam

These brave souls will face off against one another in this awesome tournament! For a reminder of the overall rules, refer to my profile to see the other thread related to debate sign ups. This thread will be used for debaters to coordinate their matches. Alternatively, feel free to join the unofficial DART server started by Sir.Lancelot below!


Rules for each debate challenge:

RULES:
- Topics for the debates will be given with each round of the tourney. Topics will include social, political, and religious issues. Each round will have a theme that the potential topics will be written around. If the two people paired against one another cannot agree on a topic, arbitration will be carried out by me. 
- Debates can be 3-4 rounds, with a 10,000 maximum character limit. You are free to use a link-shortening service and provide sources from a Google doc to meet come under the threshold. 
- There will be 4 judges per debate, 2 nominated from each person. You can nominate me to judge. However, it is not required. Argument times will be three days to allow for adequate research. Voting period will be set to one week. 
- Not accepting a debate challenge from your opponent after you agree on a topic and judges, or a failure to communicate with your opponent in a timely manner will lead to an automatic loss. This can be voided with adequate reasoning. 
- You are allowed to concede the debate at any time for an automatic loss. 
- You can nominate judges from other people in the tourney. However, any proven collusion or alleged collusion with probable cause will result in being kicked from the tournament. 
- Additional rules can be provided at my discretion when needed.

An amendment was made to the character limit as per the request of PREZ-HILTON.

Brackets for the tourney will be found here: https://challonge.com/3kwkgwdr

Remember, this is a round robin format! This is not an elimination tourney! After the round robin matches (of which there are three), the top two debaters will clash in the final!


For round 1, we have:
AustinL0926 vs. Sir.Lancelot
PREZ-HILTON vs. YouFound_Lxam

Now, for the topic theme and the ten potential topics for this round.

This first round will focus on politics, particularly politics concerning governance and economics.

Your ten potential topics for the debate in round 1 are:

  • On balance, communism works better than capitalism
  • On balance, fascism works better than capitalism
  • Laissez-Faire capitalism is more efficient than social democracy
  • On balance, authoritarianism works better than libertarianism
  • On balance, importing labor is preferred for a developed economy
  • The government should own the central bank
  • On balance, government bail-outs do more harm than good
  • On balance, command economies are superior to market economies
  • On balance, feudalism would be a preferential alternative to capitalism
  • Wealthy businesses in key industries should be nationalized

When creating the debate, please put [WDT] in the title to confirm that the debate is part of the tourney, either at the beginning or the end. If none of the topics are preferable to the debaters, new topics can be suggested with the approval of the creator of the tournament. 

All debaters have 72 hours from the time this forum post is sent to begin the debate. If they cannot begin in the allotted time, they must inform the tournament creator that extra time will be needed. If they fail to do that, both will suffer an automatic loss. 

Feel free to mention me here or message me if any issues pop up. Ping me here with the link of your debate when it is created.

Good luck! Have fun, and debate well!



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Here we begin guys, read the post!
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Nice job! This looks neat.
Who is the first opponent I will be paired against?
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AustinL0926 vs. Sir.Lancelot

I will ping him here for you!
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On balance, communism works better than capitalism
Con, 

On balance, fascism works better than capitalism
I don't understand fascism too well despite reading a lot from evola. 

Laissez-Faire capitalism is more efficient than social democracy

Not interested but if we can't find something to debate I am open to taking a position

On balance, authoritarianism works better than libertarianism

Works better at what? 

On balance, importing labor is preferred for a developed economy

Con


The government should own the central bank
Con


On balance, government bail-outs do more harm than good

I would be willing to do con here.


On balance, command economies are superior to market economies
Con

On balance, feudalism would be a preferential alternative to capitalism
I don't know enough about feudalism 

Wealthy businesses in key industries should be nationalized
Con
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On balance, authoritarianism works better than libertarianism

Works better at what? 
Overall, as a method of governance.
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@AustinL0926
Preferred Topics:
  • Laissez-Faire capitalism is more efficient than social democracy. (Pro)
  • The government should own the central bank. (Pro)
  • On balance, command economies are superior to market economies. (Will be Pro or Con.)
  • On balance, importing labor is preferred for a developed economy. (Preferably Con, but I can be Pro.)
Do these topics look good to you or would you like to add a few to the list? 


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Overall, as a method of governance.
I believe I may have been wrong. What about Authoritarianism vs Anarchy? 
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Woah, that's a lot of topics. Lancelot, how about I do some research then get back to you in 24 hrs or so?
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@AustinL0926
Yeah, that works.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Anarchy is a form of libertarianism. I kept it intentionally vague so people could insert their own thoughts and ideologies.
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I'd say five or six of these topics are practically truisms.  Is there really any good argument for feudalism over capitalism? I mean, aren't the factual results, when compared, overwhelmingly in favor of capitalism?   You could make a reasonable environmental appeal, I suppose, but it's not as if you have a lot evidence to submit.
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You'd be surprised, I've seen good arguments on both sides for each of these topics. 
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You'd be surprised, I've seen good arguments on both sides for each of these topics. 
  • You have it exactly.  Even allowing for good arguments, I would be surprised if the merits of Feudalism could ever be proved to outweigh the merits of Capitalism.

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@oromagi
You'd once again be surprised. I'm not one myself, but I've met some staunch monarchists that shilled hard for feudalism and had backing for it. It has a place to be argued, although its definitely the black sheep of the topics.
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Laissez-Faire capitalism is more efficient than social democracy
I'm willing to take pro on this one. 

We pretty much agree on all the rest. 

Thoughts?
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Remember, if y'all can't find a good topic, just suggest one you both wanna do and I'll either yay or nay it. 
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Sounds good!
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Laissez-Faire capitalism is more efficient than social democracy
I'm willing to take pro on this one. 

We pretty much agree on all the rest. 

Thoughts?
This is the most boring topic though and the semantics over the word efficient could get tedious. Let me look through your post history to see what your beliefs are. Give me a minute. It just needs to be political this round from what I understand 
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How about ‘Laissez-Faire capitalism is more economically efficient than social democracy?’
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I guess I will do that debate. Who are your 2 judges?
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@Sir.Lancelot
No thanks

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I'll have Greyparrot if they are willing to judge.
The 2nd judge is your pick. 
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Each debater gets two judges, so you are free to nominate someone else too

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This should be interesting! 
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Ohhhhhhh ok. 

I guess I will also pick Best.Korea if they are willing to participate as well. 
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Alright, I agree to participate.
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Lancelot and I are finalizing our debate setup, BTW.
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UPDATE:
Prez and YouFound_Lxam has started his debate here:


Austin and Lancelot has their debate setting up with confirmation of the judges. 1/4 have accepted. 
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Every single tournament is up, nice