My Favorite Anime Characters DP3

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"Third, Austin claims he copped Wylted in NP1. Notably, he doesn’t say his result (which, for those paying attention, would have been innocent given that he was the Godfather)."
The result is obvious to anyone who knows how mafia works. I got innocent as a result. I didn't try to save Wylted because it was pretty clear he was the GF by the end of DP.

So is the Vig role, which is confirmable, but he… just hasn’t used it yet. Yep, after getting repeatedly sussed over the last 2 DPs, he’s avoided using the one role that could confirm him both NPs. Very convenient.
I'm not trigger-happy - there were no clear scumreads, and it would be dumb to use vig so early.
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I’d respond to all this (a lot of which is just you doing your damnedest to twist what I said to being something it isn’t) but… seriously, just try to defend that ridiculous role claim. I’ll get popcorn.
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Far as I’m concerned, this response amounts to “I was nervous to use it and didn’t care enough about confirming myself, so I used two other abilities that definitely would not confirm me two NPs in a row despite being actively sussed.” I don’t know how you got to the end of DP2 with no scumreads, especially considering how hard you were apparently sussing me the whole time, but hey, you keep justifying a clearly very strange choice.
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What is your 3rd ability?
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I'm so damn tired of this. I have literally been trying my best to help town all game, despite half the players being either inactive or sheep. Ya'll are blindly following whiteflame, who at this point is either a scum player so incompetent he got outed by a newb, or a town player so bad that he's tunneling on a power role and making up justifications for it.

Let's not even get started on Supa, who made up some absolutely BS role justifications (seriously, look at SirAnon's role and character), and then is apparently laughing on the sidelines while town players get sussed because of it. That's not even considering multi-shot silencer, which is one of the most broken roles I have ever seen.

whiteflame is literally trying to get me lynched and doesn't care if we lose the game because of it. I have outed my character, my role, my justification, my NP actions, and it's not enough. It's gotten to the point where he's making all sorts of stuff up, like apparently me saving my vig shot and being a responsible citizen = me being scum.

He's also completely ignoring our biggest mechanical lead, which is Earth redirecting crystal onto Pie - how tf is he not pushing for a role claim on crystal before lynching me?

I find it genuinely toxic how townies can get away with not playing to their win condition if they're experienced enough, apparently.
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I actually have two: x1 vig, and x1 tracker. Real fking shame that whiteflame won't even let me get to NP to confirm myself.
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I'm leaving for an hour. Try not to let whiteflame march you all off a cliff while I'm at it
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Yep, here goes the last ditch effort. Out of curiosity, is anyone buying this?

SirAnon’s role and justification both make sense (haven’t seen any sussing of him since he claimed his character), don’t know what you’re talking about. In fact, all the ones I’ve seen so far do. Blaming the mod is an interesting choice, though. 

Oh, and just to be clear, I’m fine pushing on Crystal after we remove you, even if she’s not my biggest scum read beyond you at the moment. In due time.
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I'm buying it.
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Alright, then please explain to me what makes you believe his role claim, especially given what I said here. He’s also claiming that Vader made some bad role justifications. Do you think yours is bad? Anyone else’s? Honestly, if I’m missing something, I would sincerely like to know.
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Austin [3/5] Best Korea, whiteflame, Pie
Crystal [1/5] Earth

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@Earth
For that matter, I'd also like to see your reads. I understand that you redirected Crystal and that you'd like to find out about his role (presumably because you're sussing him), but there are almost certainly 2 scum left in this game. Who else do you think is scum?
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Do you have any reason to suspect Austin is scum (such as reports), beyond scumreading them, vote badger for Yes, unvote for No.
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I fos Crystal pretty hard, but if Austin is mafia, then it seems odd that she would silence her mafia partner. 
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I need to sleep on it, but I TR Pie and whiteflame, so while I have misgivings about the Austin lynch, I can understand that having three JOATs is odd.
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I didn't try to save Wylted because it was pretty clear he was the GF by the end of DP.
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Yeah, throw it on the pile of reasons to VTL Austin. Dude's scummy as all hell.
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I didn't try to save Wylted because it was pretty clear he was the GF by the end of DP.
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If you're looking for a scumslip, you're not going to find one. Again, it was an obvious conclusion when:

  • I got an "innocent" result on Wylted
  • Wylted visited the NK's house
  • Wylted didn't attempt to deny or counterclaim the above conclusion
So there were really two possibilities:
  • Wylted was innocent and trying his best to get himself lynched
  • Wylted was mafia and had some anti-investigative power

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Yeah, throw it on the pile of reasons to VTL Austin. Dude's scummy as all hell.
Jeez, at this point you're not even attempting to pretend it's not personal. If you actually wanted to be pro-town, you would try to get a claim out of crystal. That claim could literally prove me innocent, and you're not even trying to pursue it.

Also, since I forgot to do this earlier..

VTL crystalnyx

Full claim please.
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Jeez, at this point you're not even attempting to pretend it's not personal. If you actually wanted to be pro-town, you would try to get a claim out of crystal. That claim could literally prove me innocent, and you're not even trying to pursue it.
...I'm sincerely at a loss with so many of your responses, but this one really bothers me. I've given you a long list of reasons why I'm sussing your claim. You can treat that as "personal" or you can recognize that this is how I play the game.

As for pushing on Crystal for a claim, the problem there is obvious: he's not online, and pushing on someone who is rarely on slows DPs to a crawl. I've already made clear that Crystal should full claim whenever he gets on. If he doesn't, then I'll sus him. That being said, you treat this as though it's an either/or situation where we can only put attention on one person. Whether you flip scum or town, this is not the last DP, but since we can learn from your flip either way, it can inform how we see other players. So, calling what I'm doing here anti-town simply because I'm not pushing harder for a claim out of Crystal is more than a little disingenuous. 

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I'll say this went on long enough. 

Unvote , VTL Austin
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(1/3)

...I'm sincerely at a loss with so many of your responses, but this one really bothers me. I've given you a long list of reasons why I'm sussing your claim. You can treat that as "personal" or you can recognize that this is how I play the game.
Ok, sorry for this one  - I was genuinely annoyed, and I saw it as personal. However, upon further reflection, I'd like to apologize for calling you out like this, it was unwarranted. That's my bad.

However, I will still defend myself from being mislynched. You all are making a serious mistake here, lynching one of town's power roles, without even giving a night to test it out. I'm not going to go quietly into the night, and I will defend myself for as long as it takes to convince everybody.
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(2/3)

The reason why I am so frustrated here is I have literally done everything I can to confirm myself as town. For a reminder, I have:

-Soft claimed DP1, without trying to stall it out till the end of the DP like I could have
-Claimed my character DP1, again without stalling
-Tried my best to help town even when I was silenced (and the fact ya'll are overlooking this is astonishing)
-Claimed role DP2 when pressured - again, I had a reasonable excuse of having a power role, which is why I was hesitant
-Gave role justification (I admit I should've done this a bit earlier, but still)
-Gave my NP1/2 actions

With all this in mind, what the heck was I supposed to do as town? (to be cont)
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3/3

There are at least three ways to confirm me as town. They are, respectively:

-Get a claim on crystalynx, who is mechanically likely to be mafia silencer, based on all available evidence
-Let me breadcrumb a vig shot at the end of the DP, then I'll use it during the night
-Let me use my tracker shot, which Siranon can verify

Can't you at least let me try one of these?
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4/3 (cuz I realized I have to add this)

To crystalnx, SirAnon, and badger:

I know ya'll are probably going to hammer, but we have 30+ hours left in DP. Please, give me just half of that time before hammering to explain myself. Ask as many questions as you want, cross-examine every single one of my posts, but just give me that chance to defend myself.


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Again, I still have two pieces of evidence up my sleeve, so give me a chance to show them before hammering. If you do hammer, then when I finally flip town, everyone should (rightfully) scumread you.

Anyway, I'll be AFK now. Might have time to check on the DP before bed, might not.
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Austin [4/5] Best Korea, whiteflame, Pie, Earth