U.S. Governors Mafia DP4

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Both meaning CV and miller
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I was guessing wylted was cult since he didnt seem like town. That's why I asked wylted if he was 3rd party, but i visited him and nothing happened.
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I dont know who the 3rd town is
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If i had to guess,,,barnie is 3rd town because I visited and nothing happened? if he was skum good chance at least once he would have killed me the 2 nights i visited barnie
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What happens to you if you visit third party? Not third town
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Are you willing to risk barney and SA being the team?

I admit it is unlikely given your role, that SA is scum.

Right now they can hammer whiteflame as a duo.
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Why do you write barbey as barnie?
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Barney**
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well make your best guess who town is RM, I have faith in your genius.
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The thing is the apex use of a 2x purifier for just 1 miller makes no sense. Your role makes a lot of sense for s 2x purifier if there is no converter.

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What happens if you visit third party, according to your role PM?
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Pie told me the role of purifier speaks for itself. That is a hint I was right
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Best korea could probably permanently disarm wylted.

So apex use is available.
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GP does not need to be Town necessarily. BK has use against Wylted alone and if there is a ninja too, the purifier could stop that too.

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But some thing doesnt add up about the setup balance.

If Town has a jailkeeper even 1x then... what does that balance??

Jailkeeper on top of a double saver??

Jailkeeper on top of a mafia roleblocker if SA is town????

No.
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i am a simple visitor. no flavor
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Why should we encourage discussion? That i creases chance of scum to talk town out of a lynch.
You were the one who said that we shouldn't rush this DP at all, but you still decided it was a good idea to push a lynch.

Tbe more we talk, the more deception can occur but yes, so can more tells. So keep trying to grill me
This is grilling you? I'm asking you to address the reasoning I gave for what I did rather than just assert that there was no plausible reason for me to act as I did. The dismissive attitude and absolute certainty you're presenting here aren't any more convincing this DP than they were in the previous 3.

Supa was gov and believed I CCd him, he is well kmown to fuck up in a panic and in particular has this thing to mishammer me.

I happened to be there last minute when actually I was suoer busy until and thought the day had just ended so I took a look  I tried toake sense of things in literally 2 mins of reading the game bacmwards, thought wykted had gladiatored BK and second gussed my scumread on him but UNTIL then had scumread him and saw it as scum vs scum you vs hi.
That's just a baffling set of reads. You had the opportunity to successfully lynch Wylted DP1. You actively chose not to do so because a) you bought Wylted's BS about being the gladiator despite the fact that absolutely nothing corroborated his brand new claim and b) you were so focused on getting a lynch off on me that you refused to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch the obvious scum. It was a bad choice that ended up pushing what should have been an obvious lynch out to DP3. Even if you're right and I end up flipping scum, it was still a bad choice to split the vote.

If Town has a jailkeeper even 1x then... what does that balance??

Jailkeeper on top of a double saver??

Jailkeeper on top of a mafia roleblocker if SA is town????
I feel like that's obvious: it balances the 1X Vig that Austin had. Not sure what a mafia RB has to do with it - scum and mafia both having RBs is not new.

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Meant to @you in the above.
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????? Jailkeeper balances that?
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Official Vote Count:

Whiteflame (1/3) - Grey
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Why not? It can prevent it or protect someone from it. I haven't seen any other role that balances it aside from Barney's claimed BP.

Also, I've read back through it several times and it still doesn't make sense. How exactly does the Purifier role have anything to do with the Miller role? It says it removes "lingering effects," and last I checked, the Miller is not itself a lingering effect. The only lingering effect I see is Badger's White Mage, which protects over 2 NPs. So it looks like a negative town utility role.

For that matter, I may have just missed it, but where did GP state that his visiting a TP role could get him killed? Did he breadcrumb that somewhere?
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Yeah dp1 he begins asking wylted if he is TP and there is a troll interaction between them that seemed like wink wink nudge nudge but GP would react that way as Town.

Why are you not worried GP is voting you rn?
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Is Lancelot allowed to post in live games if he is not in them?
It's to be discouraged as a matter of etiquette, but it's not a TOS violation.

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I genuibely meant keep trying to grill me. Why would you be offended by that invitation? 

You SHOULD try to grill as Town, of course not only as Scum.
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well make your best guess who town is RM, I have faith in your genius.
Wow, GP doesn't explain his burst of speed to get on a wagon when he's otherwise been lurking all game, and now he's buddying to RM that hard... Wow, just wow!
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i am a simple visitor. no flavor
Back in DP1 when you were chatting with Wylted, you were trying to verify if he was safe to visit... But now you're claiming you had no danger from visiting anyone?
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I have tried to ask pie again to not gove me his deflective answer in PMs but to actually clarify exactly how a purifier would interact with a miller or compulsive visitor
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where did GP state that his visiting a TP role could get him killed? Did he breadcrumb that somewhere?
DP1 he and Wylted talked as if that was the case. I believe that why we've let this third party discussion keep coming back, since if he wasn't misdirecting us, then there had to be a third party or else he would die if he visited scum. We can verify with his own words that hasn't happened.

So I guarantee GP is lying about his role.

...

Speaking of which, did you RB SirAnon?
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Yeah dp1 he begins asking wylted if he is TP and there is a troll interaction between them that seemed like wink wink nudge nudge but GP would react that way as Town.
That seemed more like Wylted was actively trying to goad him into saying something weird, but I'll read back through it and see if I missed something.

Why are you not worried GP is voting you rn?
Because I assume he's scum and, therefore, that he'd need at least one member of town to join him on the lynch? I expect him to VTL me. I think it's a bad choice, and I've said as much already, but he's stayed on me just the same.

I genuibely meant keep trying to grill me. Why would you be offended by that invitation? 

You SHOULD try to grill as Town, of course not only as Scum.
Because I'm doing things like "working" and "eating my lunch," the latter of which I don't have a lot of time to do. I also just generally don't think grilling you, specifically, does a whole lot for us. Let's face it, you've dominated the vast majority of the discussion this DP. I'd love to see SirAnon get in on this and I think that back-and-forth would be more fruitful.
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If siranon comes and is scum with barney, you realise the situation?