Racism made it hard for black families to build wealth

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Average price of a house in Kansas City in 1940 was 20k. Assuming 5% market increases for inflation and the average price was probablly 50k. So a person with out of college with zero credit in a career that lasts 3 years making 10k a year. Very understandable that they couldn't afford a house
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1980 avg house in the area was 100k 
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Average price of a house in Kansas City in 1940 was 20k. 
That’s a lie


1980 avg house in the area was 100k
That’s also a lie. More like 70k

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It's clear the guy wasn't looking for "an average house" so double that number.
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That's actually what I figured and FDR is pulling stats from 1980 to disprove what I extrapolated from data acquired in 1940 specifically for the Kansas city metro area
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Roosevelt that is for the entire United States. This is for the Kansas city area in 1940 you also have the  1980 price and inflation is about 4% a year


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/06/27/how-much-housing-prices-have-increased-since-1940-in-every-state.html
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Chiefs just won the SB by the way, so is it still racism?
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Discrimination based upon perceivable differences relative to human intellectual development leaves us at a point in time that is generally regarded as 2023.


So things became what they are.

And things didn't become what they are not.

And things will continue to become what they will become.

And none of these realisms have an alternative..


And it's impossible to say if any of this has any greater significance than this.
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I like how the bluenomatterwho crowd seemed to be actually shocked to learn about the legal loopholes Trump used to pay less taxes.

Most smart people know exactly how those loopholes got there. Same ole story. Make the middle class feel good about their tax rate by pretending to tax the rich....for 70 years.
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And this is why reparations for black families should be explored.
Alright. Are you expecting me to pay reparations? Or the rich people to pay reparations? 
I dont have much money, despite being somewhat white.
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Roosevelt that is for the entire United States. This is for the Kansas city area in 1940 you also have the  1980 price and inflation is about 4% a year
If you read the article by these former football stars you would learn that a developer named Nichols put restrictive covenants on his real estate projects that prohibit blacks from buying the properties.

“Restrictive covenants were key to Nichols’s neighborhoods. He legally bound entire subdivisions to ban Black people from buying homes”


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More for the record that responding specifically to the OP:

There’s actually some truth to this, but people are overestimating the degree of financial literacy, agency, and sheer luck required for the average family to still retain housing wealth from that far back. The vast majority don’t. A lot of (white) housing wealth was also destroyed in that same era due to the social disintegration and skyrocketing mostly black crime rates that accompanied the 1960s social changes. This is still a country where you can start with nothing and make it. These types of comparisons always leave out Asian people who, despite mostly being poor or young immigrants a generation ago, now have more median household wealth than white people. Hispanic people have a higher median wealth than black people even though most of them came here quite literally dirt poor, and are still coming. One of the most infuriating things about the modern left is denying anyone other than white people agency. Any given disparity can’t possibly be the result of individual choices. 


But there’s definitely *some* impact for sure. Whites are more likely to receive an inheritance and if you do receive one the median is substantial, but so few do that the “median” across the five year period studied was only $15k for whites vs $3k for blacks as the vast majority inherited nothing. Inheritance is definitely a significant component to the racial wealth gap but it’s not the entire thing, and not all or even most differences in inheritance come from racism instead of differences in how families spent and saved over the years. 


Unfortunately there seems to be an issue with wealth/status transmission in the black community. A longitudinal study using US census data found that black men raised in rich households were far less likely to remain that way as adults then white men. The NYT attributes this to racism, but no such gap exist between white and black women which doesn’t make sense if racism is the explanation. This is probably because black women commit fewer crimes and are more likely to attain education than black men are. 


Reparations from people who didn’t do anything to people who didn’t have anything done to them would probably destroy the country and it’s certainly not worth it if would just be gone in a generation anyway. 
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-  When my father and in-laws die in the coming years I will inherit over a million dollars worth of real estate. Imagine the effect not being able to get a mortgage for a house has had on generations of black families. 
If those homes were under restrictive covenants in the 1960s it wouldn’t be very difficult for you to track down the descendants of a black family who lived in the area and was in a position to afford to buy the house at the time and give them your portion of the inheritance. My family came from nothing so if I inherit wealth it will have come from savings from the 1990s-2020s, but if you actually have or are coming into wealth that dates from the 1960s or earlier and was denied to a black family you have every right to give your own reparations. 
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Racism made it hard for black families to build wealth
Is that why you named yourself after a President who locked asians up in concentration camps?
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The fundamental error with reparations is that wealth cannot be created from scratch. 

The other error is believing that a fool and their inherited money can't be parted if they have the right skin coloring.
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Racism made it hard for black families to build wealth
Really? 

Who was the first female entrepreneur who became a millionaire? Was she white? Nope. She was black. Madame CJ Walker. Clearly racism didn’t stop her from making millions.

What about the top 20 wealthiest black people in the world? Did racism stop them from their endeavors to become famous but more importantly, RICH as hell!?! Of course not. 

Racism didn’t stop all these black entrepreneurs from becoming millionaires throughout the 1800-1900s!! 

It was democratic policies like redlining that curbed black homeownership. Democrats = racists. 
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It was democratic policies like redlining that curbed black homeownership. Democrats = racists. 
Redlining was NOT a Democrat policy. It was a racist policy used by Democrats (and Republicans) around the country.

LBJ, a Democrat, forced his party to change their ways. The ones that refused became Republicans. It’s been like that ever since.

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Is that why you named yourself after a President who locked asians up in concentration camps?
What did your parents do to stop that from happening? Did they protest? Did they go to DC to demand justice for west coast Japanese people. (It wasn’t all Asians as you implied)

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Is that why you named yourself after a President who locked asians up in concentration camps?
What did your parents do to stop that from happening? Did they protest? Did they go to DC to demand justice for west coast Japanese people. (It wasn’t all Asians as you implied)

Or did they not care?


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Racism didn’t stop all black entrepreneurs from becoming millionaires throughout the 1800-1900s!! 
Damn racists, they got most of them but they couldn’t get ‘‘em all

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Powerlessness doesn’t change that you’re endorsing a man who legalized Sanctioned Racism against asians. 
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What did your parents do to stop that from happening? Did they protest? Did they go to DC to demand justice for west coast Japanese people. (It wasn’t all Asians as you implied)
most of the posters on this site don’t have parents who were adults, or even alive during WWII lol 
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Powerlessness doesn’t change that you’re endorsing a man who legalized Sanctioned Racism against asians. 
Roosevelt was wrong to go along with this treatment of Japanese Americans. So we’re your parents, the Supreme Court, and the vast majority of the American people. He also refused to allow sanctuary for a ship loaded with Jewish refugees fleeing the Nazis.




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most of the posters on this site don’t have parents who were adults, or even alive during WWII lol 
Maybe. Grandparents then.

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Roosevelt is evil in a lot of ways not just because of the Japanese, and supporting him isn't that much different than supporting Hitler. 

Dude would have taken a 4th term if we allowed him. We had to put presidential term limits up when other presidents in the past just refused a 3rd term because it was unethical. He is the only one to actually be evil enough to break precedent. A lot of Americans did try to stand up to him though and we could have removed the American Hitler at one point if smedley Butler didn't ruin it
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Roosevelt was wrong to go along with this treatment of Japanese Americans. So we’re your parents, the Supreme Court, and the vast majority of the American people. He also refused to allow sanctuary for a ship loaded with Jewish refugees fleeing the Nazis.
Well since my grandparents were busy getting profiled for colluding against Pearl Harbor. That sort of absolves them of responsibility. 
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Nobody is responsible for their grandparents actions retard
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Sounds like your only excuse is then “but-but everyone else was doing it!”
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Well since my grandparents were busy getting profiled for colluding against Pearl Harbor. That sort of absolves them of responsibility. 
Really? They were Japanese living on the west coast?

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You dare question MY heritage!?!?!?!